The situation in Ukraine...

[Dark_Ansem]

Socialists are delinquents and genocides

Actually, these are your Nazi pals. I see you're one of those revisionists, thinking you can change history to suit your needs.

I've seen enough of your posts to be horrified for two lifetimes, the amount of lies and bile you spout is concerning.

WWII and URSS, and as I see now WWIII caused by the same group. (China + Russia)

Well, you're wrong but not surprises there. Also, Russia is a full blown Nazi right-wing state. It's almost as socialist as I am the Queen of England. So unless you can produce my Crown...

 

[Coto]

FWIW i'm quoting @Foxi4 on this one because that's what Socialism enabled in Chile. (twice, first in 1970 (1) 1970 (2) and now in 2019)

We’ve had this conversation a million times - the principles espoused by communists have a natural consequence of establishing an authoritarian government because they can only be put into practice through use of force, force which is never relinquished afterwards - that’s the part modern communists don’t understand, and cannot understand. They find the proposed end point to be attractive, so much so that they fail to notice that the proposed path doesn’t lead to said end point, it invariably leads to an authoritarian nightmare. People on opposite ends of the aisle will always have this argument we’re having right now, until the end of time - communism sympathisers will always say that it was never truly tried and communist opponents will always say that it’s a system that failed every single time it attempted. Revolutions create power vacuums, and nature hates a vacuum - that empty space is always, invariably, filled in with the group that just did all of the revolting, and they’re never going to relinquish the power they seized because the supply of people not adequately adherent to the cause is never-ending when the goal posts can be moved as hoc. There is no step three after seizing the power from the state, but people infatuated with the idea of communism will never come to terms with that. If you’re under the impression that Putin was ever splitting a grain of rice to feed his family, you’re living in an alternate reality that’s not worth delving into.

And i'd say in the 70s we got lucky because instead of becoming full socialists, USA + Chile's Armed Forces helped to be free from Communism (1973-2019)

 

[Dark_Ansem]

FWIW i'm quoting @Foxi4 on this one because that's what Socialism enabled in Chile. (twice, first in 1970 and now in 2019)

First of all, socialism and communism are two different things. As any dictionary or history book can tell you.

Secondly, Putin's Russia is as communist as China, so a big whooping 0% since both countries have become incarnations of the worst right-wing disaster capitalism.

Thirdly, it would be really nice if you stopped attempting to score political points for your (indefensible) political revisionism trampling the (still) warm bodies of Ukrainians. It's both tasteless and offensive to the intelligence of everyone involved.

Literally no one thought that Putin was feeding anyone, quite the opposite in fact. The same Putin who is a champion to the right-wing in fact, but to no socialist ever. Can't speak for communists as there are pretty much none where I am.

 

[chrisrlink]

Mariupol seized by the URSS 2.0

Still no-fly zone declared. Ah yes, Socialists don't like declaring war, they'd rather give a piece of land and be peaceful as long as China pays.

you really want total nuclear annihilation huh?

 

[UltraDolphinRevolution]

Aisha is married to Hussein. It was an arranged marriage. They do not love each other. But her family would never support divorce. It is societal suicide in this community. Aisha knows this but ideas of feminism inspire her. She constantly opposes her husband at dinner partys, hoping to provoke physical involvement from her family members. Her female family members keep cheering her on: "Slava Feminismi!"
She opposed her husband again earlier this evening. The husband is beating her up and Aisha left the web camera turned on, hoping to change her family tradition of strict no divorce traditions. Some family members still cheer her on: "Slava Feminismi!"

 

[Dark_Ansem]

Aisha is married to Hussein. It was an arranged marriage. They do not love each other. But her family would never support divorce. It is societal suicide in this community. Aisha knows this but ideas of feminism inspire her. She constantly opposes her husband at dinner partys, hoping to provoke physical involvement from her family members. Her female family members keep cheering her on: "Slava Feminismi!"
She opposed her husband again earlier this evening. The husband is beating her up and Aisha left the web camera turned on, hoping to change her family tradition of strict no divorce traditions. Some family members still cheer her on: "Slava Feminismi!"

How is this related to Ukraine?

 

[UltraDolphinRevolution]

How is this related to Ukraine?

NATO troops in Ukraine is a red line for Russia. It is suicide for the West and therefore out of the question. All Western countries know this. Yet, the west keeps encouraging Ukraine to fight Russia. It is sinister. If you care for the well-being of Ukraine, you tell it to accept reality and make the best out of the situation. The end result will be identical: a non-alligned Ukraine. But thousands of lives could have been spared, millions of people could have continued their normal lives. These facts reveal that Western countries have different goals than the well-being of Ukrainians.

 

[djpannda]

NATO troops in Ukraine is a red line for Russia. It is suicide for the West and therefore out of the question. All Western countries know this. Yet, the west keeps encouraging Ukraine to fight Russia. It is sinister. If you care for the well-being of Ukraine, you tell it to accept reality and make the best out of the situation. The end result will be identical: a non-alligned Ukraine. But thousands of lives could have been spared, millions of people could have continued their normal lives. These facts reveal that Western countries have different goals than the well-being of Ukrainians.

EVEN IF RUSSIA IS SCARED OF NATO...
..... is Russia Attacking A Sovereign Ukriane is ok....???
Ukraine is a sovereign nation not NATO

aww the Classic STOP Hitting yourself

(mind you NATO has yet to bomb any Ukriane schools, Hospitals, Theaters, Residential area.)

 

[idontgetit]

Speaking of "rent free".

I'm turning into Jocko Willinck reading this thread

"Russians bombing hospitals and soyboys paying more for gas?"

"GOOD"

 

[djpannda]

I'm turning into Jocko Willinck reading this thread

"Russians bombing hospitals and soyboys paying more for gas?"

"GOOD"

Cool Story... "non-Burner" New Account.

 

[idontgetit]

Cool Story... "non-Burner" New Account.

EVEN IF RUSSIA IS SCARED OF NATO...
..... is Russia Attacking A Sovereign Ukriane is ok....???
Ukraine is a sovereign nation not NATO

aww the Classic STOP Hitting yourself

View attachment 302686
(mind you NATO has yet to bomb any Ukriane schools, Hospitals, Theaters, Residential area.)

GOOD.

 

[djpannda]

GOOD.

....Wait ....didn't the Kremlin not teach you how to attach a image properly, in Troll Training? ..

 

[Coto]

you really want total nuclear annihilation huh?

Defending your land from being invaded is much more important than be afraid of the enemies artillery. You represent the typical USA citizen from today very well.

 

[Dark_Ansem]

NATO troops in Ukraine is a red line for Russia. It is suicide for the West and therefore out of the question. All Western countries know this. Yet, the west keeps encouraging Ukraine to fight Russia. It is sinister. If you care for the well-being of Ukraine, you tell it to accept reality and make the best out of the situation. The end result will be identical: a non-alligned Ukraine. But thousands of lives could have been spared, millions of people could have continued their normal lives. These facts reveal that Western countries have different goals than the well-being of Ukrainians.

Who exactly do you think you are to tell Ukrainians to surrender to the Mad Tsar?

And even assuming that what you say is true, that was a rant about some Muslim people. Which has nothing to do with Ukraine.

Defending your land from being invaded is much more important than be afraid of the enemies artillery. You represent the typical USA citizen from today very well.

Yes, except that heavy enough artillery can vaporise you. Such things have to approaches with brain AND brawn, not just foolish bravado. It almost sounds like you're up for Ukrainians getting killed.

It's so easy for you to demand sacrifice and courage of others. I'm sure that if your butt were on the line, you'd have already committed treason 3 times, like St Peter - except that you'd not repent.

 

[Coto]

Yes, except that heavy enough artillery can vaporise you. Such things have to approaches with brain AND brawn, not just foolish bravado. It almost sounds like you're up for Ukrainians getting killed.

It's so easy for you to demand sacrifice and courage of others. I'm sure that if your butt were on the line, you'd have already committed treason 3 times, like St Peter - except that you'd not repent.

But that's not something you can decide anyway. Deal with it, or like I told somebody else, go chain yourself at United Nations and cry over it until you're nuked, or arrested, or whatever. That's all you do anyway.

 

[Dark_Ansem]

But that's not something you can decide anyway. Deal with it, or like I told somebody else, go chain yourself at United Nations and cry over it until you're nuked, or arrested, or whatever. That's all you do anyway.

It's actually something you can decide. Who survives can fight another day.

 

[westward]

In general, it isn't wise to corner a country w/ a nuclear trinity (Air, Sea, Land launch systems). M.A.D. - Mutual Assured Destruction. Russian people are human beings, as are Ukrainians - I am not in favor of war in general, but this situation has been brewing for over 7 years now.

There is a documentary made by a very brave French woman named Anne-Laure Bonnel. It gives some very valuable context to how we arrived here - nothing is black and white - that many are not hearing from Western media.

The full video can be watched here. It is a right-wing site, but it came up first in my search results w/ the full documentary playable. We/I can disagree w/ the sites narrative, but that is not relative to the content of the documentary. It's one hour long, I recommend everyone give it a watch.

https://www.riotimesonline.com/braz...7W7JvldZ7XrGfjX8e6rw-1647887255-0-gaNycGzNCmU

Respectfully,
westward

WARNING; VIDEO IS GRAPHIC - VIEWER DISCRETION ADVISED.

 

[djpannda]

ouch.. I gues Ukraine number are not off might be undercounted … guess that’s why Russia is desperate to buy soldiers..

 

[Dark_Ansem]

ouch.. I gues Ukraine number are not off might be undercounted … guess that’s why Russia is desperate to buy soldiers..

I'm in amazement they'd even bother displaying it

 

[subcon959]

I get it, it's easier to label them an extreme right wing murder squad. Maybe it's just more convenient than making any relevant points.

It's a well accepted label. I'm really not getting why you are persisting with this have you temporarily switched sides to the right to allow this cognitive dissonance?