Switch OLED teardown V1/V2

[M7L7NK7]

Well are the modchips dead?

There's no way they'd let the oled be chippable

 

[mathew77]

Soldered to the main board on the back under a shield.

So-o-o one need to desolder/solder it back to make a proper glitch, right?

 

[FR0ZN]

There's no way they'd let the oled be chippable

Chances are good that it is, because it uses the same Mariko chipset as the Lite and Red Box Switches.
If Nintendo wanted, they could have fixed the SoC like months ago for the two above mentioned revisions.
It's unlikely that they are currently producing glitchable Mariko SoCs for Red Box/Lite Switches and non-glitchable Mariko SoCs just for the OLED model - it makes no sense.
Having one SoC however that can be used in all 3 available Switch revisions makes sense for Nintendo - financially.

The question is, will Nintendo at one point produce non-glitchable SoCs? Changes to SoCs are expansive and currently all Switches in circulation (that's 90 million consoles) are hackable one way or the other - so the worst that could happen to Nintendo already happened.

 

[The Real Jdbye]

So if you can't do a motherboard swap into an OLED Switch, there's still a chance you could do a screen swap into an old Switch, even if it takes modifying the shell a little, as long as the connector is the same.

 

[linuxares]

Chances are good that it is, because it uses the same Mariko chipset as the Lite and Red Box Switches.
If Nintendo wanted, they could have fixed the SoC like months ago for the two above mentioned revisions.
It's unlikely that they are currently producing glitchable Mariko SoCs for Red Box/Lite Switches and non-glitchable Mariko SoCs just for the OLED model - it makes no sense.
Having one SoC however that can be used in all 3 available Switch revisions makes sense for Nintendo - financially.

The question is, will Nintendo at one point produce non-glitchable SoCs? Changes to SoCs are expansive and currently all Switches in circulation (that's 90 million consoles) are hackable one way or the other - so the worst that could happen to Nintendo already happened.

The chip can still have different software that might have patched said race exploit.

 

[FR0ZN]

The chip can still have different software that might have patched said race exploit.

It's not a race condition, it's a voltage glitch, that causes the SoC to skip the BCT check.
But the same thing I said would also apply, IF Nintendo would've done anything software wise on the SoC - why only touch it for OLED models, when they could've done it for all other revisions as well ?

 

[Deleted member 550701]

currently all Switches in circulation (that's 90 million consoles) are hackable one way or the other - so the worst that could happen to Nintendo already happened.

Well around 20 million of them are hackable by fusee gelee, and the other 70 mil. are hackable through a modchip (+ Déjà Vu on ipatched eristas below 4.1.0) , which let's be real here only a small percentage of people are actually going to do.

 

[FR0ZN]

Well around 20 million of them are hackable by fusee gelee, and the other 70 mil. are hackable through a modchip (+ Déjà Vu on ipatched eristas below 4.1.0) , which let's be real here only a small percentage of people are actually going to do.

What people do or don't do, doesn't change the fact that every single Switch out in the wild, no matter the revision or firmware version can be hacked.
It's also beyond me why people hesitate to install a modchip in their Switch (or let someone mod it for them) - it might be expansive but the gain outweights the cons imho.

 

[linuxares]

It's not a race condition, it's a voltage glitch, that causes the SoC to skip the BCT check.
But the same thing I said would also apply, IF Nintendo would've done anything software wise on the SoC - why only touch it for OLED models, when they could've done it for all other revisions as well ?

Still if the software is changed/patched. It might not be possible. I don't know since I haven't seen the data.

 

[Kallrkyle]

Here is another vid with some more info about the inside of the oled switch

 

[FR0ZN]

Still if the software is changed/patched. It might not be possible. I don't know since I haven't seen the data.

A hardware fault patched in software?

 

[Deleted member 550701]

A hardware fault patched in software?

It can be limited, not fully patched but limited

 

[linuxares]

A hardware fault patched in software?

It all depends. the BCT checks etc. is part of the firmware on said chip. It might be possible to fix it via software. So it's not a hardware fault, it's still a software in said hardware that is the failure point.

 

[djnate27]

Take a closer look, the newer OLED Model is shifted to the left and the older model is shifted to the right to compare the battery and other component location, from where the battery is, the board is shorter on the OLED.

Why does the OLED Switch's body look bigger than the original? Is it just wishful thinking on my part?

 

[Hayato213]

Why does the OLED Switch's body look bigger than the original? Is it just wishful thinking on my part?

Not bigger they just shifted the location of components inside over to the right.

 

[FR0ZN]

Not bigger they just shifted the location of components inside over to the right.

It's .1 inches wider.

 

[ganons]

Why do youtupe reviewer always act stupid, had to give up on watching the vid since the guy kept acting like a jerk

Yea he's kinda cringy

 

[ZachyCatGames]

Chances are good that it is, because it uses the same Mariko chipset as the Lite and Red Box Switches.
If Nintendo wanted, they could have fixed the SoC like months ago for the two above mentioned revisions.
It's unlikely that they are currently producing glitchable Mariko SoCs for Red Box/Lite Switches and non-glitchable Mariko SoCs just for the OLED model - it makes no sense.
Having one SoC however that can be used in all 3 available Switch revisions makes sense for Nintendo - financially.

The question is, will Nintendo at one point produce non-glitchable SoCs? Changes to SoCs are expansive and currently all Switches in circulation (that's 90 million consoles) are hackable one way or the other - so the worst that could happen to Nintendo already happened.

They burn ipatches at the time the device is manufactured afaict, not at the time the chip is manufactured. Seeing as they already needed to setup new assembly lines and update their tooling for the new hardware, they could’ve easily added a patch to mitigate the bct glitch attack and had practically no reason not to.
But this is Nintendo so idfk

 

[grubgrub]

New video out



He confired that the 64gb is on the seperate board

I didnt watch the whole thing so im not sure if the OLED has the same ribbon cable as the V1 switch
But we can see the position is different

 

[Imancol]

So-o-o one need to desolder/solder it back to make a proper glitch, right?

Desoldering the Emmc will not cause RMC mode. It must have been removed from the Tegra chip.


PD: How is it possible that retail Smartphones have forced shutdown with Volume - and Power and Recovery mode with Volume + and Power? How can you track a phone with a secure lock if it has already been forced to shut down and erase from Recovery?