Gaming SSBB Copy Protection

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Why the heck does everyone think SSBB will launch with some new form of copy protection or disc structure? Have I missed something? Or is this pure speculation?
 

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pure speculation, mainly because Super Mario Galaxy had it, and since this game has way too much people interested in it, one can only assume so.
 

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Yeah it's the first highly anticipated first-party sequel to a huge hit since SMG. And to cut down on $$$ lost, Nintendo would be likely to try a new copy protection method if possible.
 

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It will just get bypassed so yeah
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Yum yum I love rampant baseless speculation

on a serious note, does anyone really have the full rundown on super mario galaxy's "protection" anyway? What was it, was it intended to stop modders, etc?
 

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Yum yum I love rampant baseless speculation

on a serious note, does anyone really have the full rundown on super mario galaxy's "protection" anyway? What was it, was it intended to stop modders, etc?

Well, yeah. That was the exact point of it. I mean it only said "Error #001: Unauthorized modification device detected"

The game would tell th wii to read a sector that was outside of the normal retail games range. On a blank DVD-R with the ISO burnt on it it would read and let the nintendo know the copy wasnot legit. "Detecting" the modchip.
On a retail version the sector would not be read and the game would start up.

Nintendo doesn't want to lose money to piracy. Period. They've said it before they'll say it again. They've tried to stop it before (smg, divineo raid,etc..) they'll try to stop it again (most likely with SSBB as this is going to be a big seller and pirated copies mean $$ lost).
 

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Speculation, like everyone said. I really hope that they haven't invented any new protections. Of course it would be bypassed sooner or later, but still it's annoying.
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Yum yum I love rampant baseless speculation

on a serious note, does anyone really have the full rundown on super mario galaxy's "protection" anyway? What was it, was it intended to stop modders, etc?


Well, yeah. That was the exact point of it. I mean it only said "Error #001: Unauthorized modification device detected"

The game would tell th wii to read a sector that was outside of the normal retail games range. On a blank DVD-R with the ISO burnt on it it would read and let the nintendo know the copy wasnot legit. "Detecting" the modchip.
On a retail version the sector would not be read and the game would start up.

Nintendo doesn't want to lose money to piracy. Period. They've said it before they'll say it again. They've tried to stop it before (smg, divineo raid,etc..) they'll try to stop it again (most likely with SSBB as this is going to be a big seller and pirated copies mean $$ lost).

Well if the case was the wii being able to detect the modchip wouldn't we be in the clear then? The new updates for all the chips make them stealth. The D2C was the first stealth chip and that wasn't detected by SMG. If there is some sort of new protection most likely they will make it so there is an update first and after that it would tell the wii to read another sector that most likely Nintendo has looked in to where the chips might still be detected. Oh well, hopefully there isn't a protection because I want to play this damn game. I of course support it so I will be buying it as well when it comes to the states.
 

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Well if the case was the wii being able to detect the modchip wouldn't we be in the clear then? The new updates for all the chips make them stealth. The D2C was the first stealth chip and that wasn't detected by SMG. If there is some sort of new protection most likely they will make it so there is an update first and after that it would tell the wii to read another sector that most likely Nintendo has looked in to where the chips might still be detected. Oh well, hopefully there isn't a protection because I want to play this damn game. I of course support it so I will be buying it as well when it comes to the states.


"Tell the Wii to read another sector?" What the hell are you talking about?

You have no idea how any of these mod chips work, yet here you are talking about reading "sectors."
 

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I think that SSBB will have new copy protection, but it'll get cracked relatively quick. An angel appeared to me in a dream and told me so. (Hey, I've got just as much basis as anyone here)
 

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Well if the case was the wii being able to detect the modchip wouldn't we be in the clear then? The new updates for all the chips make them stealth. The D2C was the first stealth chip and that wasn't detected by SMG. If there is some sort of new protection most likely they will make it so there is an update first and after that it would tell the wii to read another sector that most likely Nintendo has looked in to where the chips might still be detected. Oh well, hopefully there isn't a protection because I want to play this damn game. I of course support it so I will be buying it as well when it comes to the states.



"Tell the Wii to read another sector?" What the hell are you talking about?

You have no idea how any of these mod chips work, yet here you are talking about reading "sectors."

Seems like someone is getting ancy waiting for the new SSBB. Anyway, calm down. Your right, I don't know how a modchip works. I was basing it off of what the person I quoted it off of said.
 

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Well if the case was the wii being able to detect the modchip wouldn't we be in the clear then? The new updates for all the chips make them stealth. The D2C was the first stealth chip and that wasn't detected by SMG. If there is some sort of new protection most likely they will make it so there is an update first and after that it would tell the wii to read another sector that most likely Nintendo has looked in to where the chips might still be detected. Oh well, hopefully there isn't a protection because I want to play this damn game. I of course support it so I will be buying it as well when it comes to the states.



"Tell the Wii to read another sector?" What the hell are you talking about?

You have no idea how any of these mod chips work, yet here you are talking about reading "sectors."

Seems like someone is getting ancy waiting for the new SSBB. Anyway, calm down. Your right, I don't know how a modchip works. I was basing it off of what the person I quoted it off of said.

ha. Hellfromabove is confused. It's not a "Sector" IN the wii. It's a value on the disc itself. The value is too high for a retail disc so it won't be read when the disc asks the system to read it. It's not too high on a dvd-r though and the system will read it when asked. This lets the system know the game is not a legit retail version but a copy.

haha..just don't worry about it..
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Honestly what's the point of region locking ?

To sell more copies! If they released a game over here in the US that was region free, people all over the world could just import it and play. And when the game finally does come out in their own region, they won't buy it because they already have the other copy.
 

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