Hacking r4i gold vs r4i dsn

[dalto]

Is there much difference between the r4i gold and the r4i dsn cards?

I have not been able to find much. It seems like they both support Wood r4.

 

[Rydian]

R4iDSN.com and R4iDS.CN?

Yeah, they're functionally the same from everything I've seen.

 

[kineticUk]

ywg releases the r4iDSN version of wood together with the r4 and rpg versions.

I think (not 100% sure) r4ids.cn team release their version of wood with permission and they handle the code/cart specific support issues rather than ywg.

The versions must differ slightly to function on the specific hardware. I've found ywg releases for the rpg/r4 very polished. I can't say the same for the some of the r4ids.cn versions unfortunately. (having said that I think ywg wood rpg/r4 is the best kernel/firmware/loader out there, if only the r4igold's was as stable as ywg's..)
I really like the r4igold hardware (so far most problems with software have been fixed eventually and I've heard the r4ids.cn support is good) but I wish ywg released the software like he does for r4/rpg.

I know little about the r4iDSN hardware but I've heard nothing bad.

 

[jimmyemunoz]

It appears as though the r4iDSN is not built as nicely as the r4i Gold 3DS from r4ids.cn. Look at the circuit board and the gold tooth contacts, for instance.

 

[kineticUk]

The r4igold hardware is very nicely built. Quality.

 

[ywg]

It appears as though the r4iDSN is not built as nicely as the r4i Gold 3DS from r4ids.cn. Look at the circuit board and the gold tooth contacts, for instance.

yesterday I got 'r4i dsn 3ds' and 'r4i gold 3ds'. They looks absolutely the same. If you remove label you can't differs one from another. Even a small visible pcb part same. Also I have use one 'r4i dsn non3ds' cart from october'2009 as a main developing cart. A big stress for contacts. But till now everything is ok. For example in ak2i that I used contacts died in 4 months. Fully. And I also have one transcend microsd card with died contacts — this take for me a little less than 3 years.

 

[jimmyemunoz]

It appears as though the r4iDSN is not built as nicely as the r4i Gold 3DS from r4ids.cn. Look at the circuit board and the gold tooth contacts, for instance.

yesterday I got 'r4i dsn 3ds' and 'r4i gold 3ds'. They looks absolutely the same. If you remove label you can't differs one from another. Even a small visible pcb part same. Also I have use one 'r4i dsn non3ds' cart from october'2009 as a main developing cart. A big stress for contacts. But till now everything is ok. For example in ak2i that I used contacts died in 4 months. Fully. And I also have one transcend microsd card with died contacts — this take for me a little less than 3 years.

I posted pictures in another thread here yesterday. The R4ids.cn Team has a new "9" PCB and a new "A" PCB, both no longer contain an Actel chip. Please look down by the contacts on the r4ids.cn cart that you are comparing, is there a 6,8,9, or A? I'm asking to see if the r4iDSN team did a new revision also. My statement was made before the revision of the PCB from 8+ (9 and A) Please answer. On another note, you won't get an argument out of me when referring to the build quality of an Acekard.

 

[dalto]

I actually picked up one of each and the build quality is night and day.

The one from r4ids.cn is substantially better built. It weighs more and feels much more solid. I would say the build quality is better than an Acekard.

The one from r4idsn.com is not nearly as well built as an acekard. The pcb is floating around in the cart. I have quite a few flashcarts and this is easily the worst from a build quality perspective.

 

[Serke]

I'm asking to see if the r4iDSN team did a new revision also.

It looks like they did. Take a look here (message #640), here (message #916) and here (message #924).

 

[NES SNES V.B. N64 G.C. Wii WiiU]

Functionally, they're exactly the same. The gold cart is built better though...

 

[Serke]

It appears as though the r4iDSN is not built as nicely as the r4i Gold 3DS from r4ids.cn. Look at the circuit board and the gold tooth contacts, for instance.

Speaking of contacts, this picture sure looks scary.

 

[ywg]

Please look down by the contacts on the r4ids.cn cart that you are comparing, is there a 6,8,9, or A?

5 on gold and dsn ones.

 

[jimmyemunoz]

Please look down by the contacts on the r4ids.cn cart that you are comparing, is there a 6,8,9, or A?

5 on gold and dsn ones.

Damn,you definitely have some older ones.

Functionally, they're exactly the same. The gold cart is built better though...

Other than the arguable build quality, I read that there's one difference between the cards. R4iDSN uses NOR flash and R4ids.cn uses Serial flash.

 

[jimmyemunoz]

It appears as though the r4iDSN is not built as nicely as the r4i Gold 3DS from r4ids.cn. Look at the circuit board and the gold tooth contacts, for instance.

Speaking of contacts, this picture sure looks scary.

Ironically that is probably the best place to buy the R4iDSN, only $9.41 shipped.

 

[Vigilante]

Well with WoodR4 they are basically equal but I have to say that the WoodR4 on the R4i Gold gets updated later by a few days compared to the R4iDSN but I have to say that the R4i Gold has I think better build quality.

 

[NES SNES V.B. N64 G.C. Wii WiiU]

It appears as though the r4iDSN is not built as nicely as the r4i Gold 3DS from r4ids.cn. Look at the circuit board and the gold tooth contacts, for instance.

Speaking of contacts, this picture sure looks scary.

What would make you say that?

 

[jimmyemunoz]

It appears as though the r4iDSN is not built as nicely as the r4i Gold 3DS from r4ids.cn. Look at the circuit board and the gold tooth contacts, for instance.

Speaking of contacts, this picture sure looks scary.

What would make you say that?

Corroded contacts.

 

[NES SNES V.B. N64 G.C. Wii WiiU]

It appears as though the r4iDSN is not built as nicely as the r4i Gold 3DS from r4ids.cn. Look at the circuit board and the gold tooth contacts, for instance.

Speaking of contacts, this picture sure looks scary.

What would make you say that?

Corroded contacts.

Yes, but it doesn't exactly look 'scary'.

 

[jimmyemunoz]

Yes, but it doesn't exactly look 'scary'.

That would be fair to say. It's just an opinion Boss.

 

[Serke]

It appears as though the r4iDSN is not built as nicely as the r4i Gold 3DS from r4ids.cn. Look at the circuit board and the gold tooth contacts, for instance.

Speaking of contacts, this picture sure looks scary.

What would make you say that?

Corroded contacts.

Yes, but it doesn't exactly look 'scary'.

There's nothing scary about the picture itself. The possibility of the same thing happening to my cart after I buy it, that's what I find scary. Also, speaking of buying, this picture scares me off.