The problem being that we can't do anything with 3DS software.Ok, may be stupid but... what if they used some sort of system bricker (like on the DS) that would take down the entire FW right? Then, all you have to do is reload a new CFW to the NAND. Unless Nintendo put in some sort of hardware encryption then it should work. Only problem would be loading the new CFW and making the bricker run.
Exactly, the only real way we can get a true hack to the 3Ds in reality is to get the keys. So far, Nintendo really hasn't given us a way to load ANYTHING (besides a little bit of text in the RAM) that is unencrypted. Honestly though, if we are already monitoring the RAM (Neimod is anyways), then why haven't we found the key or a decent exploit?The problem being that we can't do anything with 3DS software.Ok, may be stupid but... what if they used some sort of system bricker (like on the DS) that would take down the entire FW right? Then, all you have to do is reload a new CFW to the NAND. Unless Nintendo put in some sort of hardware encryption then it should work. Only problem would be loading the new CFW and making the bricker run.
We can't brick the Home Menu, we can't write CFW.
We can't do much, except for wait for some lucky guy to show up with the keys.
Let me put this simply... A man locks the door to his house, and puts the key on a hook. nobody can get it unless he opens the door, or someone buys an extremely expensive battering ram. Okay, the "keys" we need are owned, and well-hidden by Nintendo. Unless Nintendo 'gives' (which will NEVER happen) us the keys, we aren't getting them. Instead we buy the 3DS, which is expensive, and Neimod takes his time trying to get the door down. The underlying statement is that we don't have the key, only Nintendo does. We might not get the keys for another year. Until then, pitching ideas and crashing your games won't do a thing. We can't run unsigned code, so no gamesave hacks or corrupted videos, or the like. We can't do much, except for wait for some lucky guy to show up with the keys.
I agree with that I want to hack it to show rom dumps and home brew on the system menu with a program that would config stuff like changeing the skins and that cool stuff but I would have to make a custom os for it I think that I'm right when I say this is right that also I think a crash is an explot by the way because isnt a expolt a mess up in programingLet me put this simply... A man locks the door to his house, and puts the key on a hook. nobody can get it unless he opens the door, or someone buys an extremely expensive battering ram. Okay, the "keys" we need are owned, and well-hidden by Nintendo. Unless Nintendo 'gives' (which will NEVER happen) us the keys, we aren't getting them. Instead we buy the 3DS, which is expensive, and Neimod takes his time trying to get the door down. The underlying statement is that we don't have the key, only Nintendo does. We might not get the keys for another year. Until then, pitching ideas and crashing your games won't do a thing. We can't run unsigned code, so no gamesave hacks or corrupted videos, or the like. We can't do much, except for wait for some lucky guy to show up with the keys.
Nice little picture you painted there, but crashes can help in various cases. A proper buffer overrun execution (which will result in a crash) will redirect the program stack pointer to the attack code that the 3rd party dev has created which could potentially give the end user kernel mode access which would allow any for manner of things on the 3ds. So crashing games could potentially allow for a kernel mode exploit which is what everyone is waiting for. I would recommend not discouraging people from tinkering around with their devices considering that's how exploits are generally found anyway
I agree with that I want to hack it to show rom dumps and home brew on the system menu with a program that would config stuff like changeing the skins and that cool stuff but I would have to make a custom os for it I think that I'm right when I say this is right that also I think a crash is an explot by the way because isnt a expolt a mess up in programingLet me put this simply... A man locks the door to his house, and puts the key on a hook. nobody can get it unless he opens the door, or someone buys an extremely expensive battering ram. Okay, the "keys" we need are owned, and well-hidden by Nintendo. Unless Nintendo 'gives' (which will NEVER happen) us the keys, we aren't getting them. Instead we buy the 3DS, which is expensive, and Neimod takes his time trying to get the door down. The underlying statement is that we don't have the key, only Nintendo does. We might not get the keys for another year. Until then, pitching ideas and crashing your games won't do a thing. We can't run unsigned code, so no gamesave hacks or corrupted videos, or the like. We can't do much, except for wait for some lucky guy to show up with the keys.
Nice little picture you painted there, but crashes can help in various cases. A proper buffer overrun execution (which will result in a crash) will redirect the program stack pointer to the attack code that the 3rd party dev has created which could potentially give the end user kernel mode access which would allow any for manner of things on the 3ds. So crashing games could potentially allow for a kernel mode exploit which is what everyone is waiting for. I would recommend not discouraging people from tinkering around with their devices considering that's how exploits are generally found anyway
for me it crashes no errorTo clarify: It freezes for about 4 seconds, then closes the browser and displays a message:It still crashes, just doesn't freeze the whole system.IIRC, some people were claiming the browser was a little faster at browsing large sites after the last update, it could have been fixed as a by-product of improving memory management within the browser. Other browsers handle the site by just temporarily disabling the script engine if the page uses too much memory, I'd guess the 3DS has been made to do the same.Almost definitely pointless, but they fixed the crash on the 3DS browser when you go to 3DSexploit.webs.com.
It just seemed a bit obscure to matter that much..
"An Error has occured.
Please save your data in any software currently in use, then restart the system."
I'm new to hacking, but I have an idea to get 3ds software to work on another 3ds. First get 2 3ds' to download the same software from eshop, then put the sd card into the computer and find the software, open them both with notepad and look through the code. Find the difference and there is the encryption key. Now delete the encryption code and replace with yours. It should work on your 3ds now. Just an idea though, I'm going to try it
Um no. You clearly have no idea how encryption works. It's not a case of one line in a file being different. It is a case of the entire file being changed; think of the file as a really large number essentially, and the key as another number, and encryption being a complicated sum involving both of those numbers and some other random numbers, with the encrypted file being the answer to the sum - without knowing the random numbers, it is impossible to find the key from just having the files. That is the whole point of encryption. If were as simple as you said, people would have cracked the encryption the day the thing came out.I'm new to hacking, but I have an idea to get 3ds software to work on another 3ds. First get 2 3ds' to download the same software from eshop, then put the sd card into the computer and find the software, open them both with notepad and look through the code. Find the difference and there is the encryption key. Now delete the encryption code and replace with yours. It should work on your 3ds now. Just an idea though, I'm going to try it
Maybe you don't have the newest Firmwarefor me it crashes no errorTo clarify: It freezes for about 4 seconds, then closes the browser and displays a message:It still crashes, just doesn't freeze the whole system.IIRC, some people were claiming the browser was a little faster at browsing large sites after the last update, it could have been fixed as a by-product of improving memory management within the browser. Other browsers handle the site by just temporarily disabling the script engine if the page uses too much memory, I'd guess the 3DS has been made to do the same.Almost definitely pointless, but they fixed the crash on the 3DS browser when you go to 3DSexploit.webs.com.
It just seemed a bit obscure to matter that much..
"An Error has occured.
Please save your data in any software currently in use, then restart the system."
4.1.0-8UMaybe you don't have the newest Firmwarefor me it crashes no errorTo clarify: It freezes for about 4 seconds, then closes the browser and displays a message:It still crashes, just doesn't freeze the whole system.IIRC, some people were claiming the browser was a little faster at browsing large sites after the last update, it could have been fixed as a by-product of improving memory management within the browser. Other browsers handle the site by just temporarily disabling the script engine if the page uses too much memory, I'd guess the 3DS has been made to do the same.Almost definitely pointless, but they fixed the crash on the 3DS browser when you go to 3DSexploit.webs.com.
It just seemed a bit obscure to matter that much..
"An Error has occured.
Please save your data in any software currently in use, then restart the system."
it is because I just updated two days ago and it has that versin4.1.0-8UMaybe you don't have the newest Firmwarefor me it crashes no errorTo clarify: It freezes for about 4 seconds, then closes the browser and displays a message:It still crashes, just doesn't freeze the whole system.IIRC, some people were claiming the browser was a little faster at browsing large sites after the last update, it could have been fixed as a by-product of improving memory management within the browser. Other browsers handle the site by just temporarily disabling the script engine if the page uses too much memory, I'd guess the 3DS has been made to do the same.Almost definitely pointless, but they fixed the crash on the 3DS browser when you go to 3DSexploit.webs.com.
It just seemed a bit obscure to matter that much..
"An Error has occured.
Please save your data in any software currently in use, then restart the system."
and thats not the latest?