Misc Possible Solutions to the whole issue witch lead to forbidding people to play on dolhphin

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Hi, its been a while since I've made a post here and I understand you all hate me and think I'm a troll. BUT I decided maybe i'd leave something constructive to maybe solve this whole issue. Please don't start another flame war because i'm really not complaining, I'm just providing some possible solutions.

1) make bans work with IP address: Lots of bans these days use the banning of Ip addresses to forbid the user online if he does something like for example: Hacking. This would be a great alternative to using the NAND as all Dolphin users may use the same NAND BUT they do not use the same Ip address. So if we use the Ip address to ban players we wouldn't have to worry about banning all dolphin users because that's what you were forced to do because all dolphin users had the same NAND

2) Shorten the wait time - I know, I know "Shorten the wait time? how preposterous! who does this 3 year old think he is?" well just listen the Wait time was originally put in place to stop hackers from spamming new consoles to rejoin and I am FINE with that. However I feel A week is just a bit overkill 1 or 2 days would surely already help prevent spam. Now how do I think this will help? well if you remember from my previous complaints of me getting sent back to the beginning of the wait after using the server for 1 or 2 days I was annoyed at the fact that I could only play for 1-2 days then wait another 7. At least shortening the wait to 1-2 days would make it less of a hassle

3). the third and final solution wich will maybe be the most unrealistic one. Make a wiimmfi sort of server that is dedicated to dolphin, wii players can have their server and dolphin players can have theirs. No I'm not saying create and program an emulator or create and program an entirely new build. You could just make 2 severs with the same code but allow one to run on dolphin. I understand this idea may be far fetched because servers are expensive and all that but if we are not going to do this one then maybe we take the other 2 into consideration.

All I really want is for everyone to be able to play wiimmfi. Trust me I do not support Piracy I believe you should only get an emulator if you already have that specific console or game so don't think I am trying to pirate anything here. I am just providing solutions so that the people who may not be able to hack their wii, may not want to do it ETC. Can be able to enjoy this as well. I truly want the best experience so that everyone can play

If you guys have any more solutions to this please do not hesitate to let me know, Maybe we can come to a real solution on this whole thing and Wiimmmfi will involve ounce more

Much thanks

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I don't understand why Wiimmfi's policies need to be altered. They're pretty clear about the intent behind their servers and their recommendations on why _not_ to use Dolphin.

It seems like you had the right idea before: make your own with AltWFC. If nobody's interested it might be because of what Wiimm offers: a fair playing field for everyone similar to the original NWFC service.

To be clear, also, you are probably not being banned as a Dolphin user. You're probably being banned for suspicious console/player IDs or undue lag.
 
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I don't understand why Wiimmfi's policies need to be altered. They're pretty clear about the intent behind their servers and their recommendations on why _not_ to use Dolphin.

It seems like you had the right idea before: make your own with AltWFC. If nobody's interested it might be because of what Wiimm offers: a fair playing field for everyone similar to the original NWFC service.

To be clear, also, you are probably not being banned as a Dolphin user. You're probably being banned for suspicious console/player IDs or undue lag.

I'm not saying alter wiimmfi's policy's I'm simply saying maybe a Ip ban system or just a shorter wait time will be better. To be honest I get that they have such a huge problem with dolphin. BUT to access wiimmfi on your wii you need to hack it right? that still opens the window for cheaters using the wii console so banning dolphin will not elimate cheaters. Its not that I want people to pirate Im just saying that they should be able to have an alternative if they cannot or do not want to hack their wii. That's all it's really not a big change on policy's more then it is some coding on how some stuff works Wiimmfi's policy's are important and I respect that. But I feel some things relating dolphin are just a little overkill
 

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No, they ban cheaters with real Wiis every day. You can actually see the ban list.

Dolphin creates issues with it looking like it's running fine on your end due to dynamic compilation when you're actually lagging behind everyone else in the game.

There is really no reason NOT to mod your Wii. You don't need to replace any of Nintendo's data, it's all extra. The HBC is just a channel and IOSes cannot interfere with each other.
 
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No, they ban cheaters with real Wiis every day. You can actually see the ban list.

Dolphin creates issues with it looking like it's running fine on your end due to dynamic compilation when you're actually lagging behind everyone else in the game.

There is really no reason NOT to mod your Wii. You don't need to replace any of Nintendo's data, it's all extra. The HBC is just a channel and IOSes cannot interfere with each other.
Lets say what about the people who cannot mod their wii though like physically CANNOT wii broke, lost it etc what would happen to them then? tough luck pay 400 more dollars? I dont think the whole lagging behind other people is that bad of a problem HECK on the races I was able to do they happened normally I know I wasnt at an advantage as I still came in a low place and I know I cant suck THAAT bad maybe for the really slow computers, sure it becomes a problem but that is were the whole banning people based on their Ip address suggestion comes in, you can ban individual dolphin players with that so not everybody who uses dolphin has to suffer based on one persons ban
 

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Lets say what about the people who cannot mod their wii though like physically CANNOT wii broke, lost it etc what would happen to them then? tough luck pay 400 more dollars? I dont think the whole lagging behind other people is that bad of a problem HECK on the races I was able to do they happened normally I know I wasnt at an advantage as I still came in a low place and I know I cant suck THAAT bad maybe for the really slow computers, sure it becomes a problem but that is were the whole banning people based on their Ip address suggestion comes in, you can ban individual dolphin players with that so not everybody who uses dolphin has to suffer based on one persons ban

Banning IP addresses is stupid as a serious security option. Most people are capable of changing their IP address within minutes and it would only encourage VPNs and proxies from everybody else.
 
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Banning IP addresses is stupid as a serious security option. Most people are capable of changing their IP address within minutes and it would only encourage VPNs and proxies from everybody else.
Listen, these were just ideas the main point of this was just to suggest some things, and maybe have a whole brain storming thing where maybe we could come up with a real solution hence the ending of the threat
 
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There is no reason to ban Dolphin players at all. And IP bans dosn't work: If I (and many others) reconnect my internet connection, I'll get a new IP (and maybe the new IP is bannend).
sure maybe IP doesn't work just an idea thrown out there. but like I said before the main reason I made this post is that maybe everyone can come up with a real solution to this and let both sides play while maintaining a legit server, it might be hard but it is definitely possible to come up with a real solution. Listen I am not trying to troll I am actually just trying to come up with something here something that will make both of us happy. Like you know the perfect compromise. Even though that idea may seem a little far fetched now hopefully soon we will be able to.
 

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I do not understand what you are trying to achieve other than to be allowed to play however you want with no consequences. We all saw your attempt at starting an AltWFC server full of hacks/cheats. If you're expecting that from Wimmfii I hope you never achieve it.
 
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I do not understand what you are trying to achieve other than to be allowed to play however you want with no consequences. We all saw your attempt at starting an AltWFC server full of hacks/cheats. If you're expecting that from Wimmfii I hope you never achieve it.
eh. I don't want to play with hacks, XD I didn't want to start an ALTWFC server. I want to play legit that's why I am trying to find a way for dolphin players to be able to play while still keeping the number of hackers down, Like I said it may be hard but possible
 
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1. Don't cheat or hack.
2. If you want to cheat and hack, do it offline.
3. If you got caught cheating, you damn well knew it was a bannable offense.

Rules are there in place to make sure everybody has the same amount of fun and opportunity.
Why does everyone think I want to use hacks? I clearly just now said I don't :P
 

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Why does everyone think I want to use hacks? I clearly just now said I don't :P

Wiimm just said that there's no reason to ban Dolphin players at all.
Which means that Dolphin players can mix with players on real Wii's without a problem.

If you got banned then you did something to deserve it.
Otherwise they wouldn't ban you in the first place ;')
 
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Wiimm just said that there's no reason to ban Dolphin players at all.
Which means that Dolphin players can mix with players on real Wii's without a problem.

If you got banned then you did something to deserve it.
Otherwise they wouldn't ban you in the first place ;')

Aren't dolphin players automaticly banned? that's what I have heard at least or is that in the past? Plus I never really got Banned per say I only got reset to the start of the 7 day wait after 2 days of racing, it wasn't a ban it was some weird maybe glitch or something ish. at least nobody ever told me it was a ban. I don't know what it was.
 

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Aren't dolphin players automaticly banned? that's what I have heard at least or is that in the past? Plus I never really got Banned per say I only got reset to the start of the 7 day wait after 2 days of racing, it wasn't a ban it was some weird maybe glitch or something ish. at least nobody ever told me it was a ban. I don't know what it was.

No, they are not. You just refuse to use a real NAND dump and keep getting banned repeatedly.

https://wiiki.wii-homebrew.com/Wiimmfi_(en)
Dolphin Emulator users
If you are looking to play on Wiimmfi with Dolphin, you will need to dump your Wii's internal memory (NAND) to the Dolphin emulator. A guide will be made soon: Using Dolphin on Wiimmfi

Notice:

The Dolphin Emulator can slow down mid-race. This adds up to that person's delay, which often results in them getting a higher place in the scoreboard as they won the race earlier and his time is shorter than other players. This is a problem and a very unfair advantage: people who continuously slow down in FPS will be banned.

You are causing your own problems, not the service.
 
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No, they are not. You just refuse to use a real NAND dump and keep getting banned repeatedly.

https://wiiki.wii-homebrew.com/Wiimmfi_(en)


You are causing your own problems, not the service.
ounce again were getting off topic... alrighty then nobody continue this conversation, just read the post and lets actually come up with some actual ideas other than just scolding me for having a different opinion about things...... thank you
 

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The best idea is to use a real NAND dump as the service requests if you're using Dolphin or accept your bans if you don't want to do that. Nobody can stop you from shooting yourself in your own foot.
 
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The best idea is to use a real NAND dump as the service requests if you're using Dolphin or accept your bans if you don't want to do that. Nobody can stop you from shooting yourself in your own foot.
this post is about finding solutions for the people that don't want to or CANNOT Mod their wii due to reasons like wii got lost or wii breaks. I don't think a lot of people want to pay $400 for that again. I don't know if you noticed but a Nand dump kinda does not fit that description. If it did we would be LONG done here.
 

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this post is about finding solutions for the people that don't want to or CANNOT Mod their wii due to reasons like wii got lost or wii breaks. I don't think a lot of people want to pay $400 for that again. I don't know if you noticed but a Nand dump kinda does not fit that description. If it did we would be LONG done here.

You already found that solution: run your own server. If you do not want to dump your own NAND that's not Wiimm's problem.

"Wii got lost or broke?" You have no way to play those discs you didn't pirate, then. You can't use them in a DVD-ROM drive so you wouldn't be able to play them on Dolphin. I even told you months ago how you can generate a NAND dump FOR YOUR CONSOLE with just the serial number from your console. No modding needed.

How do you "lose" a game console?
 
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