Lawmaking is fundamentally different from exercising executive power like signing bills into law. Also, despite what some Republicans might argue, lawmakers are subject to the law. Nobody is above the law.
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[POLL] 2020 U.S. Presidential Election
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Another derpy conspiracy theory.
Care to explain the results from pollsters that aren't liberal?
Fox News has Biden up +9.5 points across their 2 most recent polls. The right leaning The Wallstreet Journal has Biden up +14. What about politically neutral organizations such as Pew Research, who has Biden up +10? Or the politically neutral Morning Consult, which has Biden up +8?
What about the most accurate pollsters over the past four years?
https://fivethirtyeight.com/features/which-pollsters-to-trust-in-2018/
Quinnipiac University has Biden at +10.
Yougov has Biden at +8.
SurveyUSA has Biden at +10.
Rasmussen, Trump's favorite pollster, has Biden at +12.
Trump's tweeted in support of Rasmussen over 20 times, including this tweet where he confirms the pollster's accuracy:
New Poll: The Rasmussen Poll, one of the most accurate in predicting the 2016 Election, has just announced that “Trump” numbers have recently gone up by four points, to 50%. Thank you to the vicious young Socialist Congresswomen. America will never buy your act! #MAGA2020
— Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) July 17, 2019
Again context. He asked the doctor that was with him on stage, if that was a posibility, because it was discussed before. Offcourse, media jumped on it and twisted the words in a way that he recommended people injecting themselves with bleach.
If you want to argue your point of view, please get some decend well researched points. Right now, you come of very uninformed.
But in the end, it doesn't matter. You have your view, I have mine, and neither will change. All I can advice anyone, is to have a critical mind and research things you hear.
Republicans? I'm not quite sure how that fits into our discussion, you've lost me there.
This is our fundamental disagreement then. I have plenty of examples of how it is violated, but I'm sure you will be able to conjure up some examples on your own if you give it some thought. Adieu!
Enough that it warranted much discussion on a so-called '28th amendment' to prevent it. The examples you find in relation to the so-called amendment are direct, (however should not be minimized). OSHA, FOIA, are a couple of direct exemptions; not quite as interesting, I agree, but there are certainly hidden consequences that result. US history is riddled with such exemptions, but please spare me the time to research (these are simple to find and again, only the direct examples).
I instead advise you to let your imagination seek out some indirect examples that are a bit more unique and not quite as obvious
Clear your mind from the idea that the politicians are our ethical and moral superiors, and I'm sure these indirect examples will come to you in time.
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Do you have any present examples of lawmakers being above the law?Enough that it warranted much discussion on a 28th amendment to prevent it. The examples you find in relation to the amendment are direct, (however should not be minimized). OSHA, FOIA, are a couple of direct exemptions; not quite as interesting, I agree, but there are certainly hidden consequences that result. US history is riddled with such exemptions, but please spare me the time to research (these are simple to find and again, only the direct examples).
I instead advise you to let your imagination seek out some indirect examples that are a bit more unique and not quite as obvious
Then hopefully the people that were participating in these polls were mostly Liberal and the Conservatives that are planning on voting didn't have time to vote in online polls because they have jobs and lives that are more important then mindless internet browsing.
Trump never said to inject or ingest bleach. Trump also never said that the virus was a hoax. Both of these are lies. There's also daily news on the Liberal media sites that claim Trump has said something or is going do do something. A lot of those things are straight out lies. It's sad that you have to go research the source for these fake news posts, but once you do and watch the video of Trump talking in context with the rest of the conversation and situation you clearly see the Left is full of shit.
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That's fine, they are full of shit though. I watched the press conference of when Trump sarcastically made the mention of disinfectants and he clarified his position with reason after the confusion set in. He never said to "drink bleach". Those two words never ever came of out his mouth.
It's apparent neither of you clicked the links and took the time to read the articles.
I had already read them earlier when I was searching for opinions on what Trump said. They touch on the fact that Trump didn't know what he was talking about and he simply asked the question if injecting disinfectants would be possible. It was a dumb question, but he never instructed anyone to ingest or inject disinfectants let alone "drink bleach". Those two things are lies.
Why would I? It's clear that anything that they say will be heavily biased towards the left.
His links still don't show any proof that Trump said people should ingest or inject chemicals, including bleach. They state he asked a question if it would be possible and then the next day clarified he never instructed anyone to drink bleach. Trump saying to "drink bleach" never happened.
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You should still read links that lean to the Left. It's smart to know what your opposition is thinking and in this case there's no proof Trump said to people to inject or ingest anything. He simply asked if it were possible and then directed people to discuss issues with their doctors. He never said "hey go drink bleach".
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People don't need facts and logic when they're slaves to their feelings.
The Left not only is driven by pure emotion, but they will dismiss any of the facts or logic when it counteracts their beliefs. So I'm not sure why you're pointing out what the Left does when you usually up-vote comments made by the Left.
Have you ever tried asking a Liberal to say something positive about Trump or give examples of stuff Trump has done that they agree with? Surely, you've seen how the Left suffers from TDS as anything Trump said and does the Liberals take the opposite position and criticize and bastardize him over them. That's far from logical and let alone reasonable. Pure emotion at play, no logic.
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Can't speak as to the others, but as a for instance ... that Rasmussen poll reached their conclusion of Biden +12 using a projection that only 76% of voting Republicans would vote for Trump. Maybe that number is correct, but it seems sketchy to me. Trump got 94% of Republican votes in the Primary.
There wasn't a viable alternative candidate in the republican primaries. Also the primaries ended March 17, well before the covid cluster fuck ended up in full swing. Quite a large number of republicans are pissed at the lack of pandemic aid, easily enough to peel away 20%. The president actually catching covid, proved that it existed and was not a "hoax" which also disillusioned some republican voters.
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Here, Trump said disinfectant "knocks [the COVID-19 infection] out in a minute," it "gets in the lungs," and it does "a tremendous number on the lungs" when injected into the body.
There were thousands of extra calls to Poison Control as a result of these comments.
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How an incumbent does in the primary election is hardly an indicator of how they're going to do in the general election.
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These kinds of bold generalizations do nothing but demonstrate that you're more interested in what feels true vs. what's actually true.
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