Pokémon Sun and Pokémon Moon could potentially just be the big surprise of Nintendo's upcoming direct, as trademark filings from Europe reveal. Both listings just popped up in the OHIM database today and were filed by Nintendo.
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[BurningDesire]

fnd this speech of japanese version... you know ... localizators like to be funny I don't 100% believe on the translations hahah

I don't have a Japanese version of the game ;(

 

[Queno138]

Yeah, I'd concede that it's gen 7 if it's n3ds enhanced.

Please read this:
http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Generation

 

[Sliter]

I don't have a Japanese version of the game ;(

if you have any way to cheat or edit save you can change the game language xD

 

[duwen]

Gold and Silver were both original Gameboy games. DP and Black/White were all on DS. That makes 4.

Gold and Silver were GBC - yes, they played on original GB hardware, but they're Color - I know coz it was their release that got me to upgrade to a GBC.

 

[BurningDesire]

if you have any way to cheat or edit save you can change the game language xD

That involves work. I'll just take that with a grain of salt xD

 

[duffmmann]

That's not how it's counted.

Gen I -> 151
II 251
III 386
IV 493
V 649
VI 721


Generations are counted by the amount of Pokemon that exist are introduced and totalled in that generation.

(Which usually is tied to a new region being released)

Thing is though, what he said wasn't wrong, each Pokemon game has been optimized for the latest Nintendo handheld:

Gen 1 obviously had the original black and white pokemon games on the GB
Gen 2 was optimized for the GBC by adding full color and mystery gift via infrared transmission
Gen 3 was obviously made for the GBA
Gen 4 was obviously made for the DS before any new version of the handheld was released
Gen 5 was optimized for the DSi in that it allowed for video chat while battling utilizing the DSi's front facing camera
Gen 6 was obviously made for the 3DS
And I bet, Gen 7 will be optimized for the N3DS in that perhaps it will allow for the 3D effect anywhere and not just in battles, and the framerate in battles will be better (as we can already see when we use the NTR plugin to enhance the clock speed in X,Y,OR,and AS).

 

[Clydefrosch]

Kirby crossover confirmed.

 

[AaronUzumaki]

Gold and Silver were GBC - yes, they played on original GB hardware, but they're Color - I know coz it was their release that got me to upgrade to a GBC.

What makes them color? The fact that playing them on GBC gave them color? In that case, R/B/Y were also enhanced on GBC.

 

[RubyCarbuncle]

Interesting. I guess now we're literally reaching for the stars, am I right? *wink* wink*

......

I'll see myself out....

No, but seriously, I am now looking forward to this. It doesn't appear to be a remake of Gen 1 (Thank God) and it doesn't appear to be a "Z" or whatever. (Praise the baby in the manger!) Sun and Moon sounds better than Day and Night, so there's that.

Just by the titles alone, I'll probably get Moon. Overall it'll really just depend on the mascots.

As others have stated if Mega Solrock and Lunatone aren't a thing.....

 

[The Real Jdbye]

Guys Remember...

I do remember that. Didn't expect it to take them this long, but might this mean Gen7 will have Kalos in it? I guess we'll just have to see. I'm also still wondering what that whole thing with the Hex Maniacs was about. That shit creeped me out.

 

[Sliter]

also sun and moon remind me...

(seto no hanayome xD)

That involves work. I'll just take that with a grain of salt xD

don't be lazy!! if I oly had a 3DS lol

 

[BurningDesire]

I do remember that. Didn't expect it to take them this long, but might this mean Gen7 will have Kalos in it? I guess we'll just have to see. I'm also still wondering what that whole thing with the Hex Maniacs was about. That shit creeped me out.

Ever since people saw Hoenn references-es I have always read the text of every pokemon games to find hints xD

 

[Queno138]

Thing is though, what he said wasn't wrong, each Pokemon game has been optimized for the latest Nintendo handheld:

Gen 1 obviously had the original black and white pokemon games on the GB
Gen 2 was optimized for the GBC by adding full color and mystery gift via infrared transmission
Gen 3 was obviously made for the GBA
Gen 4 was obviously made for the DS before any new version of the handheld was released
Gen 5 was optimized for the DSi in that it allowed for video chat while battling utilizing the DSi's front facing camera
Gen 6 was obviously made for the 3DS
And I bet, Gen 7 will be optimized for the N3DS in that perhaps it will allow for the 3D effect anywhere and not just in battles, and the framerate in battles will be better (as we can already see when we use the NTR plugin to enhance the clock speed in X,Y,OR,and AS).

Yes, he wasn't entirely wrong indeed.

While indeed, the trend of new generation on new console is obvious,
the issue is that he clearly stated that It only counts as a generation when its on a new console,

When a generation is defined by new pokemon observed, but not the fact that its on a new console.

Being on a new console is merely the consequence, not the cause.

It's the reasoning of what dictates a new generation, that was wrong.

It could very well introduce new pokemon and hence be a new generation.

 

[duwen]

What makes them color? The fact that playing them on GBC gave them color? In that case, R/B/Y were also enhanced on GBC.

^

 

[duffmmann]

What makes them color? The fact that playing them on GBC gave them color? In that case, R/B/Y were also enhanced on GBC.

How about the fact that if you played Gold and Silver on a regular GB, you couldn't make use of the Infrared Mystery Gift option. The games were optimized for the GBC, though yes they could be played on the regular GB. Same goes for Gen 5 with the DSi and DS.

 

[DeslotlCL]

the question is... will you buy or pirate it?

 

[Clydefrosch]

Thing is though, what he said wasn't wrong, each Pokemon game has been optimized for the latest Nintendo handheld:

Gen 1 obviously had the original black and white pokemon games on the GB
Gen 2 was optimized for the GBC by adding full color and mystery gift via infrared transmission
Gen 3 was obviously made for the GBA
Gen 4 was obviously made for the DS before any new version of the handheld was released
Gen 5 was optimized for the DSi in that it allowed for video chat while battling utilizing the DSi's front facing camera
Gen 6 was obviously made for the 3DS
And I bet, Gen 7 will be optimized for the N3DS in that perhaps it will allow for the 3D effect anywhere and not just in battles, and the framerate in battles will be better (as we can already see when we use the NTR plugin to enhance the clock speed in X,Y,OR,and AS).

optimized doesn't quite fit the bill.
none of these games were truly optimized for the latest handheld version. they all took the best they could get while still guaranteeing compability with the non-updated consoles. but they all forfited what could have been on a gbc only/dsi only and what will be possible on a n3ds only game.

but tbh, i wouldn't put it past nintendo to keep framerate issues in place on n3ds. just cause.

 

[Queno138]

^

to add on to that point,
GS can be played on normal Gameboy.

It's crystal that was only locked to GBC.

Given that, does that mean that RBYGS is Gen I, and C is Gen II? XD


EDIT:

Look, I don't dislike the notion of the new game being optimized for a new console.
Heck, I would like that to be the case.

The trend that new generations on new consoles, is correct.

My only problem was that the definition of counting Generations was wrong.
That was it.

 

[duffmmann]

optimized doesn't quite fit the bill.
none of these games were truly optimized for the latest handheld version. they all took the best they could get while still guaranteeing compability with the non-updated consoles. but they all forfited what could have been on a gbc only/dsi only and what will be possible on a n3ds only game.

but tbh, i wouldn't put it past nintendo to keep framerate issues in place on n3ds. just cause.

Optimized in the sense that they're still playable on their lesser cousins, but they added features to take advantage of the new hardware if you had it. I just mean that they didn't settle on making the games purely for the lesser cousin and adding nothing to the experience when played on the superior hardware.

 

[Sliter]

wtf ate you guys discussing about gen? gen count when it come with a new console released, even having way that work on olders
New region+ new poke list+ (possible) new console = gen count (Original series of course, not spinoff like GCs ones... that only got new regions and stuff)
DSi is not a DS the same way new3DS is not just a 3DS
and gbc enchance basically all gb game lol On r/b/g(/y?) was made for supergameboy feature, not GBC... It's not serie fault that usa took long t localize and release after the gbc lol