Newsgroups and usenet question

Discussion in 'General Off-Topic Chat' started by Harsky, Jul 26, 2008.

  1. Harsky
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    Up to now, I use torrenting as a means to get games but it's only as good as the person who seeds it and even then, it'll die off quickly due to lack of seeders. Now I hear about newsgroups and one of the big thing that put me off was the fact that it required payment. Years ago the idea of paying put me off so I never thought about it but now my curiosity has got the better of me and I want to try it out. Is it really all that it's cracked up to be?
     
  2. Salamantis

    Salamantis GBAtemp Advanced Maniac

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    It's FAST, no seeding required. Well worth the money [​IMG]
     
  3. PikaPika

    PikaPika GBAtemp Advanced Fan

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    I'd recommend Usenet-News.net.
     
  4. Harsky
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    Just wondering. What if I want to find older obscure ISOs? Is there a time limit on the games being stored on usenet?
     
  5. martin88

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    Retention depends on your usenet provider, usually between 100 to 200 days.
     
  6. Harsky
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    Damn. So no trying to find old ISOs from 3 years ago.
     
  7. fischju

    fischju Rehabilitated Jaywalker

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    Blackcats has many old dos games
     
  8. creffca

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    Most likely not. Newsgroups really shine when it comes to the newest releases, but finding older stuff is a matter of luck. You could request an older release, but if you don't have anything to offer don't expect your request to be filled. On the other hand, newsgroups tend to be REALLY fast and tons more reliable than torrents. Some ISP's here in the states provide free access to newsgroups. Try pinging news..com (or net), or call your ISP and ask. It's worth the trouble.
     
  9. phoood

    phoood taking it to a whole new level.

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    Usenet is a great way to grab stuff. If you want to try out usenet, but don't want to drop too much money at the same time, use usenet-news. Only 5 USD for a 10GB block account. If you do, use my referral link http://Usenet-News.net/?ref=82673 [​IMG]
     
  10. Sinkhead

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    There used to be a link in my sig to a quick-start guide type thing, if you want to take a look you can find it here.

    And Usenet is awesome, really! It's well-worth the money simply because of the amazing speeds.
     
  11. Panzer Tacticer

    Panzer Tacticer veteran human

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    Here's the deal, there is NO free lunch, you get what you pay for basically.

    I pay for internet service, a news indexer service and a newshosting service.

    What does that get me?

    Virtually every f**king game ever made, you name it, no matter how old or crappy.
    Every movie ever made, every application ever made, every song ever made, every form of digital data you can think of.
    It's not legal by definition. But anyone that thinks that we need all this service JUST for legit use is a flake.

    I have broadband, and whatever I am downloading, it comes in at maximum speedall the way through the download, and it isn't being shared, it's coming to me, just me and only me. If you think torrents are cool just because they are free, well you just don't realize how much is actually out there to obtain.

    Torrent = bicycle
    Broadband with newsindexer+Giganews = space shuttle.
    You do get what you pay for.

    And if you are North American, you might have heard the term "throttling" which is currently all the latest buzz as the major ISPs are trying their best to throttle (hence the term) the use of torrents by torrent users.

    Newsgroups perform at 5-600k on average for dsl broadband, a bit faster on cable. On a throttled broadband service you can assume 30-60 is your expected maximum during most hours. Try downloading something around 5 gigs at 30k

    If you rarely download anything, none of the above really matters much though.
    But with my newsindexer+Giganews, I could (if I felt like it) download a copy of every Nintendo DS game ever made in a single day without effort.
    If you think rapidshare is "nice", picture this, my newsgroup can download DS roms faster than I can type in the game name into the search engine. Thus my download speed is limited only by my typing speed [​IMG]

    And at this time, the RIAA and the MPAA and any other industry group, is apparently powerless to impact the use of newsgroups in any fashion.
    That's what newsgroups are about.
     
  12. Alerek

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    I have to endorse usenet-news.net as far as downloading anything is concerned. I was a skeptic, felt that torrents were the only way to go...now I'm at 1.2mb/s all day, and I'll never go back.

    Yes, usenet costs extra, but with usenet-news, you can purchase in quota blocks, so you can work on a budget when you need to, and be rewarded for splurging when you can.

    4gig in 2 hours vs 4 gig overnight....when exactly did you want to play that game? [​IMG]
     
  13. gratefulbuddy

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    Go go Giganews. Just saw they have a 3day 10GB free trial period.
     
  14. Harsky
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    I'll give that a quick go. What's the best newsclient... if that's what they're called?
     
  15. phyl0x

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    I use http://www.powerusenet.com/ ; its a giganews reseller, its cheaper than giganews, because it has slightly less retention (125 days...instead of 200). I have a 20mbit down connection and max it out (which like about 2.2 megaBYTES/sec.), so it can grab a dvd sized iso in about 35 mins or so.

    as for best client, i like newsleecher, but thats a pay program....if you pay for programs.

    you'll also wanna bookmark

    http://www.binsearch.info (note that you'll wanna click check the "search in other groups" option for wii related stuff)
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    http://www.newzleech.com

    newsgroups are great for iso's, not that great for vc games and wiiware (well maybe for you since they seem to have tons of pal stuff) if your into that, have a backup bc torrent account for that stuff.
     
  16. Costello

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    Giganews has the best retention: 240 days. That's the reason why I use them, mainly.
    Got an account on newzbin also, a lot of stuff is referenced on there.

    As for clients:
    - Grabit is free, but it's not the best. Still a good option.
    - Newsleecher isn't free but you can get a cracked version. For many people this is considered the best newsgroup client
    - SABNZBd is also a good client (the best IMO) but it doesn't have a GUI. Actually it does, but it's a web interface. It runs in the background. It works under linux, mac OS and Windows.
     
  17. Kirby102

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    Yeah I've discovered this form of download method recently.. (~6mths ago) and I must say it rocks!

    Although... it comes at a price (of money that is [​IMG] ) [please dont kill me]

    Anywho, if you just want to give it for a test run, then there's 2 usenet servers that have a free trial period...

    HitNews.eu (3-day TRIAL, Unlimited, 100day retention, 8 connections)
    XLned (7-day TRIAL, Unlimited, ~60day retention, 20mbit, 8 connections)

    Also you don't need a credit card for these trials... it's only 1 trial acc per IP address.

    Just wondering if anyone knew anymore of these sorts of free trials (without CC details needed) that other providers give...

    Other than that, its all good. [​IMG]
     
  18. Panzer Tacticer

    Panzer Tacticer veteran human

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    Go with Giganews, and they will give you a free newsleecher key actually.