Judge Allows Sony to Unmask Anybody Who Visited GeoHot Site

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Read the article... FBI aren't gonna show up at your door and arrest you. Stop exaggerating.
Yeah we know that
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It's slightly impossible to arrest about 1 million people
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We are angry 'cause off the id revealing... Don't you think now that they now who we are, they will be watching what we download and what we are doing?
Until we'll be found doing something illegal.
And then they'll fine us...!
 

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considering the poor network infrastructure we have here, im sure they'll never find me, not like i've done anything wrong
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as a side note; for people who got this wrong i.e. those worried if they will get banned for visiting the info is used for these terms:

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Sony told Spero, a San Francisco magistrate, that it needed the information for at least two reasons.

One is to prove the “defendant’s distribution” of the hack. The other involves a jurisdictional argument over whether Sony must sue Hotz in his home state of New Jersey rather than in San Francisco, which Sony would prefer. Sony said the server logs would demonstrate that many of those who downloaded Hotz’s hack reside in Northern California — thus making San Francisco a proper venue for the case

from what i can make out from this (if im not wrong) sony needs this info to prove him guilty, banning people for no reason or stalking them isn't what they have in mind - even though im TOTALLY against this, there is other means which they can prove him guilty.
 

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I don't particularly care about them having my IP address since I don't even own a PS3 but I certainly don't like how a judge in the USA can grant permission to get IPs from a different country.
 

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oh my gosh!
This would never be possible in Europe, I see all left parties going after Sony with dungforks shouting "kill them all".
 

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I don't really see the point to doing this. Not like everyone visiting Geohot's website is a bad guy. As in, bad for the company =P
 

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Tracking an individual's IP in Norway is illegal by norwegian law. Where's my team of lawyers when I need them...?
 

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I don't really see the point to doing this. Not like everyone visiting Geohot's website is a bad guy. As in, bad for the company =P
If you'd actually read the article you'd understand why they're doing this. You'd also realise they don't care about the people what the people who visited the site do.
 

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I did read the article. I've followed the situation for awhile now, and I do know they are being rash. I just don't know what kind of information they could possibly get from this. I mean, they would know who visits the website, but what to they from there? Compare the IP with other hackers?

Why do people tend to feel superior on forums?
 
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This is totally unjustified. The people who read that article may be innocents, who read it maybe because it was linked on their favorite blog. I read his website too, but I fail to understand how reading an article about jailbreaking is a violation of the DMCA. Either the judge went mad or Sony paid him/her. This is just too corrupted and it goes against the principles of democray. Look at this wiki article. By giving away the IP of the youtube comments, the judge has actually gone against the American constitution. Someone with the time and money should challenge this verdict. Also, the judge is legally not allowed to give away my IP. This is because he works for an American court and I live in India. He has to consult my government before giving it away. I hope this case ends up like the one about jailbreaking the Ipod. I hope PS3 jailbreaking becomes legal.
 

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Moonshine said:
I did read the article. I've followed the situation for awhile now, and I do know they are being rash. I just don't know what kind of information they could possibly get from this. I mean, they would know who visits the website, but what to they from there? Compare the IP with other hackers?

Why do people tend to feel superior on forums?
They only need the IP to use it to prove the case that geohot broke the DMCA by distributing how to bypass DRM and to have the judge hold the case somewhere other than his home state. They won't be wasting money going after hundreds of thousands of people who watched a video, or visited a site or read his twitter. Besides, if they were going to go after them they would then need to subpoena the ISP for the personal details. Jesus, everyone acts superior because people don't read the damn article and go along with sensationalist titles just to join the damn circlejerk. Sony are not seeing this information only the attorneys.
 

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Many (innocent) people will be affected by this matter, including me, who just goes to the geohotz web for reference or curiosity. Sony has really gone too far. Knowing a person's IP address also means knowing the server the person is using and even their address. They also practically overprice EVERYTHING here in Singapore, such as their 3D TVs (samsung only sells it for $2,800 standard with no gifts or whatsoever but Sony charges $3,600 for the exact package, the TV's screen size is the same. The PS3s here are also heavily priced even now from $460 to $700+, depending on where you bought it, I would rather buy a 360 and a blu-ray player with this amount of money and still have remainders.)

I was amazed by the NGP at first even though I know that it's price will be atrocious when it hits Singaporean shores, now I really don't want it anymore due to Sony having 'such absurd behavior'. I would gladly buy two 3DSes with the same amount of money now. Well, I am indeed a victim. Stupid curiosity! >.<

Sony, if they have the guts, will definitely tell you 'who asked you to enter the geohotz web in the first place sucker?'
 

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chris888222 said:
Many (innocent) people will be affected by this matter, including me, who just goes to the geohotz web for reference or curiosity.
No you won't stop being stupid and read the damn article, not just the headlines.
 

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antwill said:
chris888222 said:
Many (innocent) people will be affected by this matter, including me, who just goes to the geohotz web for reference or curiosity.
No you won't stop being stupid and read the damn article, not just the headlines.
Sorry, I should have done that. I was too angry with Sony (and the judge!) and just bothered about the title/headline.
 

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chris888222 said:
antwill said:
chris888222 said:
Many (innocent) people will be affected by this matter, including me, who just goes to the geohotz web for reference or curiosity.
No you won't stop being stupid and read the damn article, not just the headlines.
Sorry, I should have done that. I was too angry with Sony (and the judge!) and just bothered about the title/headline.
Exactly why these sensationalist headlines are so annoying. The only person who should be worried is geohot, no one else.
 

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antwill said:
chris888222 said:
antwill said:
chris888222 said:
Many (innocent) people will be affected by this matter, including me, who just goes to the geohotz web for reference or curiosity.
No you won't stop being stupid and read the damn article, not just the headlines.
Sorry, I should have done that. I was too angry with Sony (and the judge!) and just bothered about the title/headline.
Exactly why these sensationalist headlines are so annoying. The only person who should be worried is geohot, no one else.
This is dumb. But may I ask why only them?

You may never know what Sony might do with those IP addresses.
 

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chris888222 said:
This is dumb. But may I ask why only them?
Sony aren't seeing these IP lists, only the attorneys, they are also not going to sue anyone else, and are only using the IPs for the locations so they can try and get the judge to grant them to hold the court case where they want and not in geohot's state. The IPs are only there to prove that he distributed the hacks, and to help them decide on a place to hold the case, never to sue anyone else and Sony aren't even going to see them. Also the subpoena is very specific, if Sony were to turn around and try and sue anyone else or get their identifiable information they would need another to be approved.
 

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antwill said:
chris888222 said:
This is dumb. But may I ask why only them?
Sony aren't seeing these IP lists, only the attorneys, they are also not going to sue anyone else, and are only using the IPs for the locations so they can try and get the judge to grant them to hold the court case where they want and not in geohot's state. The IPs are only there to prove that he distributed the hacks, and to help them decide on a place to hold the case, never to sue anyone else and Sony aren't even going to see them. Also the subpoena is very specific, if Sony were to turn around and try and sue anyone else or get their identifiable information they would need another to be approved.
All I can say now is good luck geohot. A person VS a company is indeed a huge challenge.
 
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chris888222 said:
antwill said:
chris888222 said:
This is dumb. But may I ask why only them?
Sony aren't seeing these IP lists, only the attorneys, they are also not going to sue anyone else, and are only using the IPs for the locations so they can try and get the judge to grant them to hold the court case where they want and not in geohot's state. The IPs are only there to prove that he distributed the hacks, and to help them decide on a place to hold the case, never to sue anyone else and Sony aren't even going to see them. Also the subpoena is very specific, if Sony were to turn around and try and sue anyone else or get their identifiable information they would need another to be approved.
All I can say now is good luck geohot. A person VS a company is indeed a huge challenge.

Considering how he won the case between him and Apple, this shouldn't be a really big deal.
 

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