The most annoying part for me is when you clearly have to make an argument using two objects, yet presenting the 'wrong' one results in a generic penalty (while presenting the 'right' one causes Phoenix or Apollo to immediately bring up the second.) Or cases where there are two similar objects that can clearly be used to make the same argument, yet only one is accepted.xJonny said:I've encountered this and it's annoying. Sometimes you have to wait until later to present that contradiction. Quite a few times presenting items linked with an object will do it though. When I get stuck I do get annoyed but the storyline is just so epic, it really is turnabout trials.
Ruri said:Or cases where there are two similar objects that can clearly be used to make the same argument, yet only one is accepted.
ojsinnerz said:I finished the first one, and loved it. Started playing the second one right after, than got disappointed with it's music, and the cases. Then I'm probably gonna start third one soon.
Maybe for the inspection part, but even tho, it's not really similar, Ace attorney is based on comedy which Hotel dusk aint. Anyhow, Hotel Dusk is a great game and you should play it nevertheless.lenselijer said:My little brother says you should play Hotel Dusk, he finished all PW games himself and says its similair.
Yugge said:Ace attorney is based on comedy
Very true, that's why I'm still playing. Despite the holes in the gameplay I still want to know what happens, and the artwork's pretty as hell. I was just defending the "no remorse for using a walkthrough" angle (and venting, cause it's a game I'm currently playing).zellthemedic said:People might rag on this game because it has no replay value whatsoever and is extremely linear, but I love them because they tell great stories.
I agree with you I'm currently buying all AA games they are way to addictive and they are very longxjenova said:I have played and finished all the games in the Ace attorney series and i have to say that even though all you do is mostly read, they are some of the most addictive games i have played. The plots, the cases, the characters, the twists; these games have all i want and would expect of a great graphic novel.
I also agree with people that Trial and Tribulations is a must-play. Man, the last case in that game is just mind-blowing!
In my opinion, they are worth their money much more than Hotel Dusk, which i found to be boring even though you have more "control" of your character.
Ruri said:They've already confirmed a 5th game, I think (it will be the last one starring Phoenix, though not the last one in the series -- I suspect they wanted to see the reaction to 4 before writing a definite ending to Phoenix's story.) This is Capcom, they never stop releasing games in a profitable franchise.
There are other series you might enjoy, although none with Phoenix Wright's courtroom drama/antics. (Well, except the Phoenix-Wright based Harvey Birdman game for the PS2, which uses almost the exact same system.)
Famicom Detective Club 2 is a mystery-adventure game for the SNES. That link is to a translation patch. It has a feel similar to the Phoenix Wright games, anyway.
The PORTOPIA Serial Murder Case is a murder investigation game for the NES. It's sort of the grandfather of all Japanese-style adventure games, including Phoenix Wright. Sort of dated, but still very fun. In addition to inspiring most other Japanese adventure games (you'll definitely notice the things Phoenix Wright's investigation sections borrowed from it), it also earned Enix the money they used to create Dragon Warrior. And you can play it on your DS on an emulator.
Snatcher (the SegaCD version was released in English and is very good) is another Japanese adventure game worth playing. It's sort of inspired by Blade Runner... you're a detective investigating murderous robots that impersonate humans.
I highly recommend all three.
Unfortunately, good GBA / DS mystery adventures are limited... there's the Touch Detective series, which is only ok; and there's Hotel Dusk, which is very different from the above games. Then there's that homebrew that lets you play graphic novels on the DS... there are probably some that would fit these requirements.