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How to play your GameCube games from SD or USB using DIOS-MIOS (Lite)

Clarification:
DML ONLY works from SD Card/SDHC Card, nothing else, no USB. There won't be a USB version someday.
So Yeah, this "Clarification" is incorrect, crediar was able to do it :D


What you'll need:
  • IF YOU WANT TO PLAY FROM SD
  • The Latest DIOS-MIOS (Lite) package from here (older versions here).
  • DML WAD Creator (for older versions)
  • IF YOU WANT TO PLAY FROM USB
  • FOR DML and DIOS-MIOS
  • GameCube ISO Compress, fstfix, DiscEX or GCReEX (your choice, read below first and decide what you want to use)
  • A WAD Manager (for example WAD Manager 1.7)
  • A SD Card or a USB Device (D'OH!)
  • Gamecube Controller and Memory Card
How to:
  1. If you have downloaded the newer version go to step 6, if you picked the older ones follow this.
  2. Extract the DML package in a folder with the same name as the package (for example DMLr13 for DMLr13.zip). If there is just a iosmodule.elf of the latest DML available then copy it into a new DML folder and rename it to DML.elf.
  3. If you already have a RVL-mios-v10.wad, copy it into the DML folder. Then the creator don't need to download the file.
  4. Extract the DML WAD Creator into the DML folder. Then run the "create_wad.bat" and type "DML" to create the DML wad, if you don't have the RVL-mios-v10.wad it will be downloaded.
  5. If the DML WAD Creator asks you which version you want to build type it in like '13' for DMLr13.
  6. Now let's convert some gamecube games! If you downloaded the new DML versions or DIOS-MIOS just start reading here.
  7. You'll need the gamecube games in iso or gcm format.
  8. If you want to use DiscEX and downloaded the older DML versions, the DiscEX files needs to be in the same folder as the DML WAD creator. Just open the WAD Creator, type "C" to enter the convert menu, drag and drop the game into it and say if you want to compress it or not. If you use the newer DML versions or DIOS-MIOS, open up a command prompt and enter "DiscEX -c gamename.iso" if you want compression, replace "gamename" with the name of your iso file. If you dont want compression just drag and drop the iso file into the DiscEX.exe. Mostly compression will work fine, some games need to stay uncompressed, see here.
  9. You can also use Gamecube ISO Compressor for the job, easiest way is there to just drag and drop your ISO file into the Compressor exe file. You can also just double click the exe file to see which options you can also use to compress the ISO files, they are more modes in it.
  10. If you have downloaded the new DML versions, you can also use GCReEx, there you can use "GCReEx.exe -x game.iso", this will create no new ISO file but a folder which contains the extracted files, this way saves most space on the sd card.
  11. There is also the possiblity to use fstfix instead to compress the games, use it like "fstfix game.iso" or "fstfix game.iso t" and drag and drop the resulting new iso in DiscEX. DiscEX will may stop at a certain percentage to copy the game, it will may also say the game is underdumped/overdumped. Both things come because the image haven't got the orignal size anymore, so you can ignore these messages.
  12. After using one of the above ways to convert your games, copy the newly created folder of the tool to sd:/games if you want to play from SD and to usb:/games if you want to play from USB.
On your Wii:
  1. Install the DML/DIOS-MIOS WAD with a WAD Manager, this will overwrite the current MIOS/cMIOS. Retail gamecube discs will still work since DMLr19. If you had a cMIOS installed before to play disc backups it wont be possible anymore until you re-install the cMIOS which will overwrite DML.
  2. You can play the games either with DIOS-MIOS Booter, NeoGamma, postLoader4, Wiiflow, USB Loader GX or Configurable USB Loader. Make sure you have a disc inserted, otherwise your Wii will simply reset if you try to play a game.
  3. The easiest one is DIOS-MIOS Booter, it works with all DML and DIOS-MIOS versions, just start it, select the game you want, set new options with the B button if you want, and launch the game.
  4. To boot games using Wiiflow switch the coverflow mode to the gameube coverflow mode by pressing the icon down-right near the home icon a few times until you see the games. You can also download covers for them in the settings, it's the gear icon down-left. Wiiflow also supports all DML and DIOS-MIOS versions with all options.
  5. To boot games using postLoader just press home to enter the menu, select "Switch to Game mode". In game mode just press up on the wiimote to enter the DML menu or press home, select "Game options" and then "Show DML menu". Then select the game you want to play.
  6. For USB Loader GX you just need to go to the display icon and select display gamecube games too, then you can set options in the menu and play them.
  7. In Configurable USB Loader they are just displayed together with the other wii games, there you can also set the options and launch them.
  8. The other ways described now are currently not optimized for the new DML versions, doesnt work with DIOS-MIOS and my not work properly.
  9. To boot games using NeoGamma go down to "Load Games from: " and select "Load GC Games via DML". Then go up and press A to search games. Select the game you want to play and press A to start it. NeoGamma doesnt have options to set for DML because its made for old DML versions.
  10. If you want to remove DML/DIOS-MIOS again either reinstall a cMIOS or the RVL-mios-v10.wad. If DML doesn't work for you make sure you have a clean BC, to get it run the "create_wad.bat" in the DML wad creator package again and type "BC". Then just install the RVL-BC-v6.wad on your wii and try it again.
Recommendations:
  • Format your SD Card to FAT16/FAT32 with 64KB cluster size to increase game speed
  • If you want to use DIOS-MIOS format it to FAT32 with 32KB cluster size, also make the FAT32 the first one, primary and active
  • If you want to use DML r21 I suggest the debug version since the regular version got small problems. Delete the DML.elf, rename the DMLdebug.elf to DML.elf and then create a new wad with it.
  • If you have a problem you can try to rename/delete the "saves" folder on your sd card to everything you want, that can may fix it.
  • Crediar created a small FAQ here that might help you as well with some general questions.
If you want to know game compatility check out the compatility list here:
http://wiki.gbatemp....patibility_List
http://crediar.no-ip.com/gc/
Don't forget to add the games you play to the list if they are missing ;)

That's it! If you have questions just ask here. Have fun playing your gamecube games from SD! :)
 

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Doesn't it harm the power cycles or whatever and dies quicker?
if it's connedted to a laptop it might use more power and it's battery wouldn't last quite as long but for the wii it's more likeky to be constantly used anyhow so there's no real difference in wear and tare and it doesn't need batteries there so it should be fine.
 

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My gamecube games don't have that issue anymore yay!

Also, I meant the life of the harddrive not the wii.. will it die quicker now that i set it to never turn off when being used?
 

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My gamecube games don't have that issue anymore yay!

Also, I meant the life of the harddrive not the wii.. will it die quicker now that i set it to never turn off when being used?
good to hear

and no, it should NOT effect the life of the hard drive.
that drive sleep feature was just meant to save on laptop battery life ... which doesn't apply to a Wii (that's all I was trying to say) but should really have nothing to do with how long the drive lasts.
 

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- Is it working for you with Dios-Mios? No :glare:

Other info:
fat32, primary, active, cluster 64k
I did't try with 32k cluster, but if Find time I can try.
EDIT: there's a way to change cluster size without formatting?
64k, unfortunately, will not work in any drive for Dios Mios.

Usually I would have said formatting is the only way but Googling it I found this
http://www.partitionwizard.com/help/change-cluster-size.html
which led me to this download page
http://www.partitionwizard.com/free-partition-manager.html
It says it's safe and with no data loss so hope it helps.

By the way, I understand incompatible drives won't even show the DIOS MIOS splash screen. I'm not sure if that applies to wrong cluster size or not, though.
 
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64k, unfortunately, will not work in any drive for Dios Mios.

Usually I would have said formatting is the only way but Googling it I found this
http://www.partitionwizard.com/help/change-cluster-size.html
which led me to this download page
http://www.partitionwizard.com/free-partition-manager.html
It says it's safe and with no data loss so hope it helps.

By the way, I understand incompatible drives won't even show the DIOS MIOS splash screen. I'm not sure if that applies to wrong cluster size or not, though.
Good info.
Today I Will try with this tool, if this doesn't work.. I format all.
Anyway, with this hard drive in 64k, I see the DIOS MIOS splash screen, then a FANTASTIC black screen.

EDIT: with the free Version I recive:
minitool.png

is needed professional edition for that: http://www.partitionwizard.com/comparison.html

I think I will recreate that partition. =P
 

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I have to ask, why some games only work with DIOS MIOS Lite and not the USB one?
Also I have this doubt...can you play other region games without any inconvenience?
I played the PAL THUG2 on a NTSC Wii. Seemed to work fine. Or playing other region games would cause problems?

Also, on the download page, they are 2 versions. The DIOS MIOS-xNEEK-DI & real NAND version.
What are the differences between those?
 

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I have to ask, why some games only work with DIOS MIOS Lite and not the USB one?
Hmm, not sure there, although I'm sure if they really did know they could fix it. :wink:
Also I have this doubt...can you play other region games without any inconvenience?
I played the PAL THUG2 on a NTSC Wii. Seemed to work fine. Or playing other region games would cause problems?
A lot of games you can, yes. If you have a nice TV that also accepts PAL it's even better but a lot of games will let you force the video mode to NTSC and work just fine (Especially if you use component cables and the progressive patch.)
Also, on the download page, they are 2 versions. The DIOS MIOS-xNEEK-DI & real NAND version.
What are the differences between those?
NAND is the name for the Wii's internal memory so the real NAND version is the one that you install and use normally on that memory. The other one you install on a copy of your NAND that you make on your SD or USB drive (called a emuNAND) and xNEEK+DI is a program that lets you run things off of that copy instead of the real NAND inside the Wii. With that version you can run it from inside that program.
 

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NAND is the name for the Wii's internal memory so the real NAND version is the one that you install and use normally on that memory. The other one you install on a copy of your NAND that you make on your SD or USB drive (called a emuNAND) and xNEEK+DI is a program that lets you run things off of that copy instead of the real NAND inside the Wii. With that version you can run it from inside that program.
Thanks!
Thats nice to know! So in theory, you can have the original MIOS, and have the other one to be emulated by xNEEK?
 

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somebody had the glorious idea to make a strike against my mediafire account, I've uploaded the DML WAD Creator and the GC ISO Compressor over on filetrip now just to make sure nothing happens against it.
@hnieuw:
The GC ISO Compressor is a open-source program created by myself which works with the GNU GCC Compiler set, so you can easly compile it on macs too, may google how to compile programs using it, the sourcecode for it is here.
 

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months ago i was running my gamecube files from SDcard with a couple of my favorite games with no problems what-so-ever

now i'm running DiosMios v2.9 (USB) Wiiflow v4.1.1... the original files still work, but the new ones won't get past the DiosMios logo or if they do the screen just blanks out

the last file i managed to get working was F-Zero GX (ripped using Clean Rip)... used DMLizard (before it updated to v3.5) to convert it to GCReEx
i'm having problems with ZooCube, Wave Race and Mario Kart Double Dash
i have tried DMLizard, GameCube ISO Tool and DMTool Box and i can not figure out why if any reason why these are not working

any help would be cheerished as my brother
wants his discs back ASAP

*MEGA DOH!:O
my new HDD is formated in fat32 32k, whilst the old one i was using to check my converted files was set to 64k...
it seems how ever i try to format my Seagate 500gb portable hdd, it wont show up as 32k, 64k yes, 16k yes but not 32k... tried Paragon Partition Manager and FAT32 GUI

ZOO CUBE here i come:)
 

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I could use a bit of help.

1) I installed the newest version of Dios Mios
2) Managed to convert my GameCube isos using the provided tool
3) Placed the GameCube isos in the proper section of my USB HDD and set the proper location in USB Loader GX
4) All isos show in the menu
5) All Gamecube isos give me the "your game is on USB, please install to SD message"
6) If I chose to install to SD and then click start, I get a black screen.

Now for the questions

1) Will I have to temporarily install games to SD from my HDD each time I want to play a GameCube game... similar to a reverse of the Wii's SD menu when playing a WiiWare title?

How do I get my games to start up?!?! it took me a while just to figure out how to get them to show.... I'm so close but no cookie yet!
 

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I could use a bit of help.

1) I installed the newest version of Dios Mios
2) Managed to convert my GameCube isos using the provided tool
3) Placed the GameCube isos in the proper section of my USB HDD and set the proper location in USB Loader GX
4) All isos show in the menu
5) All Gamecube isos give me the "your game is on USB, please install to SD message"
6) If I chose to install to SD and then click start, I get a black screen.

Now for the questions

1) Will I have to temporarily install games to SD from my HDD each time I want to play a GameCube game... similar to a reverse of the Wii's SD menu when playing a WiiWare title?

How do I get my games to start up?!?! it took me a while just to figure out how to get them to show.... I'm so close but no cookie yet!
First, you need the latest GX beta. The latest final release was 3.0 (r1180 IIRC) and it was before USB loading for GC was possible.
http://www.mediafire.com/?wjb41lp7ayz68jt
 

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First, you need the latest GX beta. The latest final release was 3.0 (r1180 IIRC) and it was before USB loading for GC was possible.
http://www.mediafire.com/?wjb41lp7ayz68jt


Now I'm getting a message about "needing a partition of 32k bytes or less". I'm pretty sure that my FAT32 partition is formatted properly. I can't use wbfs2fat because it wants a wbfs HDD before formatting. What can I do besides take everything off my HDD, format and place everything back on? Both computers here don't even have big enough hard drives to hold everything on my 1TB to do a temp file swap :(
 

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UPDATE...

I formatted a USB stick to FAT32 with 32k cluster and placed Luigi's Mansion on the stick.

1) I can load USB Loader GX and click on the game no problem
2) I'm stuck at the Dios Mios screen :(

Questions... What in the hell am I doing wrong?! Seriously, I feel like I'm going two steps forward and one back. :P What settings do I need to have in USB Loader GX to get my GameCube games to run?As always, any help is greatly appreciated.
 

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UPDATE...

I formatted a USB stick to FAT32 with 32k cluster and placed Luigi's Mansion on the stick.

1) I can load USB Loader GX and click on the game no problem
2) I'm stuck at the Dios Mios screen :(

Questions... What in the hell am I doing wrong?! Seriously, I feel like I'm going two steps forward and one back. :P What settings do I need to have in USB Loader GX to get my GameCube games to run?As always, any help is greatly appreciated.

have you tried a smaller usb? I couldn't get my 64gb to work but my 8gb works fine
 
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