Hacking Haven't updated my Gateway for almost 2.5 years - not sure how to proceed

[osm70]

Gateway fastboot locks you into their card meaning you break/lose the card your 3ds is a brick.

You have time right know. https://github.com/Plailect/Guide/wiki

That's not entirely true. If you have your NAND backup from before you installed it, you can restore the backup from the GW menu.

 

[Rockstead]

You should be able to just follow this guide. https://github.com/Plailect/Guide/wiki
If you're not going to use cheats, you may as well get rid of your Gateway card. It's outdated and unsafe, and Luma3DS with A9LH can do almost everything it can do and more.

Thank you, will that guide also show me how to backup my saves and such when moving over from Gateway to this solution?

 

[GalladeGuy]

Thank you, will that guide also show me how to backup my saves and such when moving over from Gateway to this solution?

I don't think so. What format are your saves in?

 

[evandixon]

Yikes, clear as mud guys

I thought I was confused going in, now I'm even more lost.

Ignore what everyone else said. Many of them don't have a Gateway, and don't know what they're talking about.

The bare minimum you need to do to upgrade is replace the launcher.dat on the root of your 3DS's SD card with the latest one (3.7.2) on Gateway's website.. If you're unsure of the steps, use the quick-start guide included in the download.

I recommend going a step further and installing A9LH. To do so, first follow Plailect's guide (moving emunand is optional), then follow this guide to get the Gateway card working again.

If you're not going to use cheats, you may as well get rid of your Gateway card. It's outdated and unsafe, and Luma3DS with A9LH can do almost everything it can do and more.

You're a little late to the party. I've already had a discussion about why there's no point in a Gateway owner abandoning Gateway.

There is no need to get rid of the Gateway card. It can do things free CFW cannot.

user-friendly cheats and running *.3DS ROMs.

(and many more quotes about why running 3DS ROMs is useful)

 

[GalladeGuy]

Ignore what everyone else said. Many of them don't have a Gateway, and don't know what they're talking about.

The bare minimum you need to do to upgrade is replace the launcher.dat on the root of your 3DS's SD card with the latest one (3.7.2) on Gateway's website.. If you're unsure of the steps, use the quick-start guide included in the download.

I recommend going a step further and installing A9LH. To do so, first follow Plailect's guide (moving emunand is optional), then follow this guide to get the Gateway card working again.


You're a little late to the party. I've already had a discussion about why there's no point in a Gateway owner abandoning Gateway.




(and many more quotes about why running 3DS ROMs is useful)

@Rockstead Please don't listen to this guy. Gateway cards are without a doubt inferior. The only advantage it has, .3DS support, is completely useless.

 

[chaser]

Yikes, clear as mud guys

I thought I was confused going in, now I'm even more lost.

It's actually very straight forward. I was in a very similar position a couple of weeks ago. I had an O3DS XL on v9.20 firmware, and a Gateway that hadn't been looked at for some time. I had never used emunand (I didn't even know what that was!), so couldn't run newer games that required later firmware. After looking on the Gateway website for any updates, I came across the option to install Gateway fast boot (which avoids relying on browser hacks to run the Gateway launcher), and took the plunge. It worked absolutely fine, but as others have commented, it then effectively locks you into having the gateway card inserted to start up the DS.

With a bit further reading, I realised that I should have followed the Plailect guide and installed the stock A9LH and NOT the one installed with the Gateway fast boot. I therefore reflashed my DS back to original firmware using the link I supplied above, and then followed the Plailect guide. I haven't looked back since. I now run LumaDS CFW, and can also run Gateway by holding dpad down button on boot (it's called chain loading, and is part of the CFW).

 

[WeedZ]

Ignore what everyone else said. Many of them don't have a Gateway, and don't know what they're talking about.

The bare minimum you need to do to upgrade is replace the launcher.dat on the root of your 3DS's SD card with the latest one (3.7.2) on Gateway's website.. If you're unsure of the steps, use the quick-start guide included in the download.

I recommend going a step further and installing A9LH. To do so, first follow Plailect's guide (moving emunand is optional), then follow this guide to get the Gateway card working again.


You're a little late to the party. I've already had a discussion about why there's no point in a Gateway owner abandoning Gateway.




(and many more quotes about why running 3DS ROMs is useful)

I do have gateway, and for someone like op who obviously isn't doing rom hacks, or doesn't have a deep understanding of how the hax work, the gw is not only useless, its potentially dangerous.

 

[xtheman]

That's not entirely true. If you have your NAND backup from before you installed it, you can restore the backup from the GW menu.

The manual never tells you to make pre-a9lh backups and no noob will unless they are told to.

 

[CreAtor135]

The manual never tells you to make pre-a9lh backups and no noob will unless they are told to.

http://scmods.com/gw_guide/GWFB-1.0.pdf It's literally in the presetup section.

 

[xtheman]

http://scmods.com/gw_guide/GWFB-1.0.pdf It's literally in the presetup section.

Pre-Setup
This is a potentially dangerous operation, please be sure you understand the risks before continuing and be sure to have your 3DS plugged into the outlet during the entire procedure.
Step 1:
Copy the contents of the “Red Card uSD” to the MicroSD card inside your GatewayRed Cart, which will be just the “Gateway_TM.3ds” file.

Step 2:
Copy the contents of the “Console” portion of the .zip to your internal SD Card:

Step 3:
Make sure you have a WiFi connection configured and working with NO blocking features enabled (i.e. TubeHax DNS).
Then it goes to the o3ds/n3ds install buttons.
NO MENTION OF BACKUP YOUR NAND!

 

[CreAtor135]

Pre-Setup
This is a potentially dangerous operation, please be sure you understand the risks before continuing and be sure to have your 3DS plugged into the outlet during the entire procedure.
Step 1:
Copy the contents of the “Red Card uSD” to the MicroSD card inside your GatewayRed Cart, which will be just the “Gateway_TM.3ds” file.

Step 2:
Copy the contents of the “Console” portion of the .zip to your internal SD Card:

Step 3:
Make sure you have a WiFi connection configured and working with NO blocking features enabled (i.e. TubeHax DNS).
Then it goes to the o3ds/n3ds install buttons.
NO MENTION OF BACKUP YOUR NAND!

 

[chaser]

I'm pretty sure a backup NAND.bin file is automatically generated as part of the Gateway time machine downgrade process. It's how the Gateway downgrade gets you back from v2.1 to your original firmware version. This backup file doesn't get deleted when the downgrade / fast boot installation process is finished.

Edit - ok the post above indicates that you need to manually generate the NAND.bin file. I couldn't quite remember.

 

[xtheman]

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Still not a valid reason to use free and safer methods.
And if you really care about your gateway card then you can dual boot luma3ds with a9lh v2 and gateway which is WAY better the being stuck with just gateway.

 

[evandixon]

The only advantage it has, .3DS support, is completely useless.

Saying that it's "completely useless" is incorrect. What's more correct is to say that you have no use for it. Here are 3 uses.

• Saves not being locked to the console (not applicable for those with only 1 console)
• The wait for CIA installation not being required
• Extra storage space (2 microSDs has more storage potential than 1).

This means that it's not "completely useless". Whether or not any of these apply to the OP is a different question, and I don't know if the OP has mentioned whether or not any of these are important. Regardless, these come at no extra cost to Gateway owners.

ts potentially dangerous.

How so? The only thing that comes to mind is updating in sysNAND, which they don't officially support. (And don't say their private beta is unsafe. Any private beta touching sysNAND is considered unsafe.)

NO MENTION OF BACKUP YOUR NAND!

It's not part of pre-setup, it's part of the actual setup.

Gateway actually requires the presence of a NAND.bin before installing Fastboot (as in it won't let you install their A9LH implementation without one). It will, however, let you downgrade without one, but since this is a private beta, no one has any business using it at all without already having a NAND backup.

 

[GalladeGuy]

The wait for CIA installation not being required

FreeShop is almost always faster just because most people have very slow adapters, if any at all. You also don't need a computer to download games.

 

[xtheman]

Saying that it's "completely useless" is incorrect. What's more correct is to say that you have no use for it. Here are 3 uses.

• Saves not being locked to the console (not applicable for those with only 1 console)
• The wait for CIA installation not being required
• Extra storage space (2 microSDs has more storage potential than 1).

Even if saves are not console locked they still are unlikely to be used on a different console.
Most update to date cfw users use FreeShop which install games as quickly as the eShop.
Extra storage cost more money.
Also .3ds roms take up more data then .cia roms.

It's not part of pre-setup, it's part of the actual setup.

Gateway actually requires the presence of a NAND.bin before installing Fastboot (as in it won't let you install their A9LH implementation without one). It will, however, let you downgrade without one, but since this is a private beta, no one has any business using it at all without already having a NAND backup.

Once fastboot is installed user might delete NAND backup on accident and they are screwed.

 

[The Catboy]

I disagree. I was able to remove the Gateway Fast Boot (their A9LH implementation) by simply using the Gateway Launcher to reflash the NAND.bin that was backed up as part of the Time Machine downgrade process. See https://gbatemp.net/threads/tutorial-restoring-nand-without-hardware-method.378259/

No, not really. For one, from past experiences, Gateways Time Machine (for me at least) has proven more fruitful results than that of PlaiSys. I can't say the same for everyone, however.

Also, it's not hard to remove Fastboot at all. If you follow the guide, you'll be prompted to make a backup before starting anything. If you wanna get rid of Fastboot, simply restore that NAND backup with Gateway's menu. The same goes for bricks with Fastboot installed.

Of course, it's still not something I'd recommend, as it's still in beta phase, and Gateway isn't developed far enough (no GBA or DS/DSiWare) for people to be locked to their CFW primarily.

Fari enough, I don't have past experance with them, so I am going by what I have read.

 

[WeedZ]

How so? The only thing that comes to mind is updating in sysNAND, which they don't officially support. (And don't say their private beta is unsafe. Any private beta touching sysNAND is considered unsafe.)

aside from the brick code that they are so known for you have their unstable software.

 

[sj33]

It's perfectly fine to use Gateway in just SysNAND with no EmuNAND - I've been doing this for months. They discourage it because updating in SysNAND will cause a brick due to them not implementing FIRM protection. So don't do it.

 

[Jasin]

Alright, I am kind of in the same boat. I have a gateway for my new 3dsxl. I'm on sysnand 9.02 and emunand 10.something. I'm a little more confused from all the back and forth debate. I only use it when I fly out for work.

Just a few dumb questions. When a new update comes out I can wait for gateway to support it and then update emunand while leaving sysnand safe.

With the cfw everyone is talking about its just sysnand right? You are able to update directly but what would happen if they find a way to block this? How would you roll back?

I've read people talking about downgrading to 2.0 but new 3ds came with 9, that's safe to do?

Only other question. If one were to buy a new 3ds today is there a certain serial number you need to have or can you downgrade any?

Thank you

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