Geohot has set a Legal Defense Fund

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  1. Nujui
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    Nujui I need something to do.

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    From his website:
    Media, I need your help. This is the first time I have ever asked. Please, if you support this cause, help me out and spread the word.
    I want, by the time this goes to trial, to have Sony facing some of the hardest hitting lawyers in the business.
    Together, we can help fix the system


    Donations here are for legal defense ONLY
    I checked with my lawyers before setting this up
    If you have another substantial way to donate aside from money, let me know

    tl;dr
    Sony is lame, and is suing me for hacking MY OWN PS3. Help me own them in court

    Sony are bullies
    Sony doesn't care if what you did was legal, if they don't like it, they sue. Sony tried to sue a guy for getting his AIBO to do non Sony approved tricks, making it apparent that they don't really care about piracy, they care about control. In (Sony v Bleem), Bleem was the winner on all counts, but the high cost of a legal defense shut them down. Fortunately, that suit helped set precedent on the legality of emulators. I would hate to lose this case due to resource starvation, and with the support of the masses, I won't. Lets turn the bully back on itself. This case has the ability to set a huge precedent for consoles and all closed systems to come. The other two should be begging Sony to back off.

    Sony sued the wrong guy
    I am an advocate against mass piracy, do not distribute anyone's copyrighted work but my own, do not take crap lying down, and am even pro DRM in a sense. For example, I believe Apple has every right to lock down their iPhone in the factory as much as they want, but once it's paid for and mine, I have the right to unlock it, smash it, jailbreak it, look at it, and hack on it. Fortunately, the courts agree with me on this point.
    My PS3 goal has been to provide users a legitimate path to homebrew, which by the standards of all previous cases (or, in reverse), is 100% legal. Sony does not even try to allege piracy or copyright infringement in this case, they allege I did things like play "super mario world, an unauthorized game" on MY PS3. And access MY PS3 in an unauthorized way. Who are they to authorize what I do with my taxed and paid for property?
    fail0verflow's goal was even nobler than mine. They wanted to give you back a feature Sony illegally stole, Linux on your PS3. It's shameful on Sony's part that they are being sued at all. If you have a problem with pirates, sue them, don't sue people who point out your shortcomings.

    Why should I care about your personal legal troubles?
    You shouldn't. For example, if I was taken to court for sex crimes in Sweden, I would never ask for donations. But this case isn't about me. Clearly I am not being sued because of something I have that Sony wants, I am being sued in order to send a message that Sony is not to be messed with. But if I(and all codefendants likewise) actually win this, we have the power to send a much stronger message back. That consumers have rights, and we aren't afraid to stand up for them.

    Why should I trust you? I just saw you trying to rap battle Sony
    My attempts at humor aside, I do take this whole matter very seriously. Again, it's not about me, I was on the verge of quitting this stuff last June, and I would hate to be the one who sets a reputation for hackers that all a company has to do is sue us and we back down. In fact, I want the opposite reputation set, that the more a company tries to abuse the legal system, the harder we rally back. I will be the first person in line on the launch date of the Xperia Play, and itching to get my hands on the Next GEOHOT Project.

    Why did you wait until now to set this up?
    I didn't want to be trigger happy, and thought the suit might go away quickly. Also, I had to consult with my lawyers about how to do this. It's been over a month, and it looks like this is going to be a drawn out case. I am in this for the long haul. I am very serious ethically when I take donations, for all iPhone work I only accepted after the fact, here after the fact is too late. Now I am pot committed so to say.

    How much should I donate?
    Put it this way, Sony has 5 lawyers, I have 2. I'd like to level the playing field, and really get some hard hitters in there. I have already racked up over 10k in legal bills; donate whatever you feel like. Leftover donations at the end of all this will be donated to the EFF.

    What if I want to donate more than I feel comfortable sending through PayPal?
    I'm excited! Email me, we'll figure it out.

    Why doesn't the EFF fund this?
    Ask them. They have offered to provide some legal help though, which is much appreciated.

    Donate to help you, you're the reason I can't play Modern Warfare now…
    No, I'm not. Kakaroto explains this really well here. I have never played PS3 online ever. Frankly I'm amazed by the apparent ease with which these cheats were created, security 101, why is the security in the client anyway? I had no idea this would happen, and am in full support of the cheaters being permabanned from PSN.

    I'm a poor college student, what can I do to help?
    I feel you, don't worry. Spread the word. Let people know how you feel about what Sony is doing. Let Sony know how you feel about what Sony is doing.

    What if SCEA tries to settle?
    Lets just say, I want the settlement terms to include OtherOS on all PS3s and an apology on the PlayStation blog for ever removing it. It'd be good PR for Sony too, lord knows they could use it. I'm also willing to accept a trade, a legit path to homebrew for knowledge of how to stop new firmwares from being decrypted.

    Why isn't SCEA trying to settle?
    RAGE RAGE RAGE RAGE RAGE...THEY POINTED OUT OUR SECURITY FLAWS...IM SO MADDDDDDDD...WAHHHHHH
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  2. Maedhros

    Maedhros GBAtemp Advanced Fan

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    I was going to post this here.

    Goog luck for him, but I'll not donate shit after that ridiculous rap.
     
  3. Nujui
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    Nujui I need something to do.

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    Guess I got here first [​IMG]

    I don't really know if I should donate or not.
     
  4. Fluto

    Fluto A potato in disguise

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    i might donate ...
     
  5. antwill

    antwill Better Than You

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    LOL pirates complain about games costing so much yet will willingly donate to him? [​IMG] The hypocrisy is overwhelming.
     
  6. gifi4

    gifi4 How am I a 'New Member'?

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    If I donate, it won't be for the fact I want to pirate but more for the fact of homebrew and OtherOS would be nice.
     
  7. GameWinner

    GameWinner Take your heart

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    So does he have a job or go to school or anything like that? [​IMG]
    Ignore this, I see he does have a job if he has lawyers [​IMG]
     
  8. Ron

    Ron somehow a weeb now.

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    I hate the SCEA for all this, but I'm not gonna donate
    1. Because I have no money
    2. Geohot is an ass.
     
  9. zachpl

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    Thousands of dollars have already been donated.
     
  10. Schizoanalysis

    Schizoanalysis From somewhere inside the rabbit hole...

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    You seem to assume that everyone who would donate must be a pirate.

    Perhaps you assume too much.
     
  11. antwill

    antwill Better Than You

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    Not once did I assume everyone who donates is a pirate. Just most are. I know some people are only in it for the homebrew.
    You assume too much if you assume that's what I was saying...
     
  12. thewarhammer

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    ...somethin' like that. I wish luck for him, but I really have my doubts he will succeed this time...
     
  13. Arithmatics

    Arithmatics I'll be holding on to you. ;}

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    poor guy. I'd donate for the sole fact that he's a revolution leader.
     
  14. Maedhros

    Maedhros GBAtemp Advanced Fan

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    Nah, he's an attention whore.

    If he released these keys anonymously, Sony wouldn't be doing this now. He's an idiot.
     
  15. Fudge

    Fudge Remember that death is not the end, but only a tra

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    I'm on the fence. I would love for Sony to lose in court but like other people have said Geohot is a fag bag.
     
  16. Evo.lve

    Evo.lve All that you could be.

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    Away from you.
    They'd probably still know it was him.
     
  17. tbb043

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    That about sums it up.

    I want Sony to lose, but not because I give a s*** about Geohot.
     
  18. Maplemage

    Maplemage ಠ_ಠ

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    Why would you care?
    I would donate but
    1. I have no money
    2. ron975 is being an ass.
     
  19. Lacius

    Lacius GBAtemp Guru

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    This is exactly what I thought.
     
  20. Fear Zoa

    Fear Zoa This... This is the world we live in

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    I don't see why everyone hates him....so what he found something and he released it under his own name....every other hacker does the same thing....and I'm pretty sure most of us would do the same if we found it.....