Geohot has set a Legal Defense Fund

[Maedhros]

If you look around, you'll see the PS3 was never advertised as having Other OS, instead, on the PS3 box, it said features could change with time.http://n4g.com/news/1079/new-ken-kutaragi-interview
http://www.engadget.com/2006/06/02/phil-ha...-your-computer/

I'm pretty sure Sony presented it as a personal computer when exporting it to various countries in order to get around various taxes or whatever that dealt with importing game systems, and that was used as evidence in the OtherOS suits that Sony intended it to be there all along originally.



QUOTE(Maedhros @ Feb 22 2011, 11:31 AM) I don't see why support him is right and not support him is wrong.

I bet if HP tried to sue you for installing linux on your PC you'd care.

I said the on the box or television ads, not on interviews.

Yes, I would care if HP tried to control my PC, because it's a PC. I don't see consoles as being PC's, as I've already said on this thread.

 

[Rydian]

Precedent, damnit!

What if other companies attempt to do that because of this?

 

[Maedhros]

Precedent, damnit!

What if other companies attempt to do that because of this?

PS3 is a dedicated device to play games.

I don't see how this will set precedent for PCs, where you can install whatever you want. The worst scenario would be we never seeing homebrews on consoles and portables anymore. Which I doubt will happen.

And if it affects PC, just then I'll be bothered.

Sony has any chance of winning this anyway?

 

[Rydian]

If it does affect PCs and you start to care then, it'll be you versus established precedent.

 

[Maedhros]

If it does affect PCs and you start to care then, it'll be you versus established precedent.

I'm certain it'll be just a bit more than only me. =)

 

[girugamarc]

Precedent, damnit!

What if other companies attempt to do that because of this?

Sony has any chance of winning this anyway?

Is a bird in a hand worth two in the bush?

 

[GundamXXX]

ddy]

The amount of people that pirate because they dont want to spend money is about 100% and a small percentage of that ends up buying the game to support the dev but that percentage is really small

That pirates are killing the industry is a lie, made up by publishers to justify poor sales for shitty AAA titles.
In fact the average pirate buys more games, than a normal customer.
http://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/news/20...t-customers.ars

Did I ever say that piracy is killing the industry? No I didnt
The industry is killing the industry with its mass production of crap games

But what I stated is true, the percentage that supports the dev is very small in comparison to those who pirate and dont support the dev


And regardless of the reason given to court (tools, keys, raping Sony's mother-in-law) the end reason for them suing him is because he made piracy a viable option for the PS3... end of story

 

[Midna]

If it does affect PCs and you start to care then, it'll be you versus established precedent.
QUOTE(Midna @ Feb 21 2011, 04:45 AM) I'm not sure what you personally think of George Hotz really matters here. If he loses, it will establish president. Then there will be far firmer grounds for further suits on people you may like more than Hotz himself. But if he wins, this will be a major victory for hackers everywhere.

Right now Sony is saying they can do whatever they like, regardless of actual law. This is our chance to prove them wrong.

That's what I've been saying, except nobody will listen. They seem to think that this George Hotz's personal battle, and that if they don't like him, they should root for Sony.

 

[Sterling]

If it does affect PCs and you start to care then, it'll be you versus established precedent.
QUOTE(Midna @ Feb 21 2011, 04:45 AM) I'm not sure what you personally think of George Hotz really matters here. If he loses, it will establish president. Then there will be far firmer grounds for further suits on people you may like more than Hotz himself. But if he wins, this will be a major victory for hackers everywhere.

Right now Sony is saying they can do whatever they like, regardless of actual law. This is our chance to prove them wrong.

That's what I've been saying, except nobody will listen. They seem to think that this George Hotz's personal battle, and that if they don't like him, they should root for Sony.

That's what many of us have been saying. Then there are the people who actively post nonsense and ignorance, and then the people who read the title and skim the article. Who then fast reply with something along the lines of: "Egohotz wantz uz to donate our monies for so he don't haz to pay himself??LOlololoLLo11!"

Yea, pretty much.

 

[M[u]ddy]

But what I stated is true, the percentage that supports the dev is very small in comparison to those who pirate and dont support the dev

 

[Nujui]

If it does affect PCs and you start to care then, it'll be you versus established precedent.
QUOTE(Midna @ Feb 21 2011, 04:45 AM) I'm not sure what you personally think of George Hotz really matters here. If he loses, it will establish president. Then there will be far firmer grounds for further suits on people you may like more than Hotz himself. But if he wins, this will be a major victory for hackers everywhere.

Right now Sony is saying they can do whatever they like, regardless of actual law. This is our chance to prove them wrong.

That's what I've been saying, except nobody will listen. They seem to think that this George Hotz's personal battle, and that if they don't like him, they should root for Sony.

Very well said.

This will changes things depending on who wins.

So what if you don't like him? Look past that, think what would happen if he wins.

Or if sony wins.