Fans Petition to have character named after Christina Grimmie in new Zelda game

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Fans of the late Christina Grimmie are petitioning to have a character named after the singer in the upcoming Zelda game, Breath of the Wild. Grimmie was very vocal fan of the Zelda series, frequently tweeting and posting YouTube videos about it.

Her fans have taken to change.org to immortalize the former The Voice contestant. Two petitions have been created with one nearing 60 000 supporters and the other with over 17 000 supporters.

A spokesperson for Nintendo told TIME in a statement, “we are aware of the outpouring of support for her, as well as the petition, but we won’t be making any creative or content decisions in this time of mourning.”

The situation sounds similar to fans' petition to have a Robin Williams tribute in the upcoming Zelda. Only time will tell how/if Nintendo will listen to their fans' plea.

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The difference is nobody cares about every zelda fan except the few family member etc.
Lots of people care about her death, same way as lots of people cared about Robin.
Even though you want equal treatment, and it's a noble thing to do, you simply can't reach it.
And it's a dumb thing to ask too. If there is like 1 npc per game that's a dead zelda fan celebrity it's fine. If the whole game is full of dead people the oh so collorful Zelda game is suddenly not so collorful. Not only that but with thousands of NPC's the gesture will loose it's meaning.
Dude, this is double standards and you're contradicting yourself as well. You said fuck everyone else because one person was on TV and did songs, things not everyone gives a shit about in the first place.
If many NPCs break the immersion one will too, even more so one that many people will know that it's a real life insert. It's actually much better, for the sake of the game/universe coherence to include anonymous fans/peers/relatives, because it will never break the immersion except for a dozen of possible buyers who will 100% know the referenced one personally and will obviously be grateful for it.

Your point is essentially "well, I guess it's not TOO damaging to the game cause it's just one case, so let's do it".
No thanks. I personally want my videogames to be as impartial, detatched from reality, genuine, and immersive as physically possible. I wouldn't even put my dead father as an NPC if I were given the choice. It's a ridiculous idea to some people, therefore it's normal they will react negatively.
It's someone else's creative work, people suggesting or even pressuring to put easter eggs/mentions/memorials they themselves want is fucking ridiculous, and ironic. And then getting upset when they refuse. Speaking about lack of respect and toxicity...
 

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No thanks. I personally want my videogames to be as impartial, detatched from reality, genuine, and immersive as physically possible.
I dunno man. Maybe it's just a personal issue thing for a lot of people but it didn't necessarily break my immersion when a Leeroy Jenkins NPC invaded me in dark souls and helped in the boss fight before that level.
Dude's not even dead, he's just an internet meme. When I told my girlfriend about this she was like "oh my god, that's too freaking cool, we can not skip this".
In Skyrim, the go to place for immersion, there is that one house with cheese lying around in the shape of pacman and pebbles that resemble the yellow balls that he eats. I don't remember people bitching about that breaking immersion. In fact there are immersion breaking mods and there are enough people who like them.

I mean yeah having a character literally be named after her, or anybody, would be a little dumb but that's the thing about games. They're creative products and you can pay homage in very creative ways.
Like, would it hurt if Zelda had a dad NPC character whose name was an anagram for Williams? Most people wouldn't even notice it. Or having a tavern somewhere in Hyrule where there is a Singing NPC who can't shut up about how much she adores the princess of Hyrule?
Again subtle and unless you search for it you won't notice it. And most importantly not immersion breaking at all.

I agree that forcing the dev team to do something they don't want is bad and I won't be mad at Nintendo for not doing this but being so butthurt about people wanting to have nice things is ridiculous.
 
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From what I read, this is a touch of what the recently proposed "Democratic Socialism" would be like, except in that scenario, Nintendo would be forced to do what ever "the people" say.
All it comes down to here, is grieving fans of an artist who are looking for some way to place a positive note on the memory of a growing artist whose life was cut short. No, Nintendo doesn't have to do anything more than they've already done, and fans will likely be signing that petition in vain. But that's no reason to look down on people who just want something nice to come out of all this. Show a little empathy, y'all.


Actually, no, this is all part of this "gamer gate" (spelling?) crap that I keep hearing about. Something along the lines of leftist feminists, trans, and gays putting pressure on Nintendo, claiming that their games represent the repressive patriarchy are also offensive to women, transvestites, and gays because they only portray love interests as being between a male and a female, and once more, females as females and males as males, and so on. You know, the priorities, the sort of stuff that feeds the hungry, shelters the homeless, clothes the cold, and brings hope and wisdom where there is none.

What they fail to take note of is that Nintendo created their video game franchise before the internet, when extreme left ideologies,mostly neo-Marxist in nature, were not the norm as they are now a days. In fact if you wanted to find a homosexual, trans, or radical feminist, you'd have to travel to California in those days, or maybe Canada or Europe, but in America, the gay community was very minimal, and the further back you go, the less traces of it you will find, and the irony is also that the further back you go, the more tolerance you will see for it amongst the upper class and educated, which conflicts with the narrative that gays have always been harshly repressed, as if their bodies were ever piling up in the streets over here; rather there are just incidents, people kill people because they are mad, it happens, they are not the Cherokee nation.

Likewise, homosexuals were rare, and transvestites were even more rare. And most people outside of the cities had ever heard of or ran into a radical feminist. There just wasn't any desire for it in those days, not like the socially engineered epidemic we have today with pseudo scientific claims, unconfirmed test that the media is too quick to announced as confirmed, and shitloads of wasted time, energy, and money from the economic pool, I'm sure, due to all these non-profit organizations throwing elaborate parties in the name of "spreading awareness".

So to make a long story short, this is just another means to draw attention to the subject, generate hype amongst those currently harbouring low intelligence and discernment, thus creating a media hype so sensational, and being discussed in social media (forums included) so as to create an environment where Nintendo would essentially be peer pressured and bullied into responding in some way somewhere down the road and confused young marxist children everywhere will not rejoice, but find other places and people to bully, taunt, and pester.
 

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From what I read, this is a touch of what the recently proposed "Democratic Socialism" would be like, except in that scenario, Nintendo would be forced to do what ever "the people" say.



Actually, no, this is all part of this "gamer gate" (spelling?) crap that I keep hearing about. Something along the lines of leftist feminists, trans, and gays putting pressure on Nintendo, claiming that their games represent the repressive patriarchy are also offensive to women, transvestites, and gays because they only portray love interests as being between a male and a female, and once more, females as females and males as males, and so on. You know, the priorities, the sort of stuff that feeds the hungry, shelters the homeless, clothes the cold, and brings hope and wisdom where there is none.

What they fail to take note of is that Nintendo created their video game franchise before the internet, when extreme left ideologies,mostly neo-Marxist in nature, were not the norm as they are now a days. In fact if you wanted to find a homosexual, trans, or radical feminist, you'd have to travel to California in those days, or maybe Canada or Europe, but in America, the gay community was very minimal, and the further back you go, the less traces of it you will find, and the irony is also that the further back you go, the more tolerance you will see for it amongst the upper class and educated, which conflicts with the narrative that gays have always been harshly repressed, as if their bodies were ever piling up in the streets over here; rather there are just incidents, people kill people because they are mad, it happens, they are not the Cherokee nation.

Likewise, homosexuals were rare, and transvestites were even more rare. And most people outside of the cities had ever heard of or ran into a radical feminist. There just wasn't any desire for it in those days, not like the socially engineered epidemic we have today with pseudo scientific claims, unconfirmed test that the media is too quick to announced as confirmed, and shitloads of wasted time, energy, and money from the economic pool, I'm sure, due to all these non-profit organizations throwing elaborate parties in the name of "spreading awareness".

So to make a long story short, this is just another means to draw attention to the subject, generate hype amongst those currently harbouring low intelligence and discernment, thus creating a media hype so sensational, and being discussed in social media (forums included) so as to create an environment where Nintendo would essentially be peer pressured and bullied into responding in some way somewhere down the road and confused young marxist children everywhere will not rejoice, but find other places and people to bully, taunt, and pester.

 

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I really don't get all this hate. As far as (gaming) petitions go, this is pretty benign. And we all know nothing will come of this, since Nintendo never ever listens to fans.
I have no hate, I just think it is very silly.


Wow, count me out of that one and see above -- I truly just think it is very silly.
 
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From what I read, this is a touch of what the recently proposed "Democratic Socialism" would be like, except in that scenario, Nintendo would be forced to do what ever "the people" say.



Actually, no, this is all part of this "gamer gate" (spelling?) crap that I keep hearing about. Something along the lines of leftist feminists, trans, and gays putting pressure on Nintendo, claiming that their games represent the repressive patriarchy are also offensive to women, transvestites, and gays because they only portray love interests as being between a male and a female, and once more, females as females and males as males, and so on. You know, the priorities, the sort of stuff that feeds the hungry, shelters the homeless, clothes the cold, and brings hope and wisdom where there is none.

What they fail to take note of is that Nintendo created their video game franchise before the internet, when extreme left ideologies,mostly neo-Marxist in nature, were not the norm as they are now a days. In fact if you wanted to find a homosexual, trans, or radical feminist, you'd have to travel to California in those days, or maybe Canada or Europe, but in America, the gay community was very minimal, and the further back you go, the less traces of it you will find, and the irony is also that the further back you go, the more tolerance you will see for it amongst the upper class and educated, which conflicts with the narrative that gays have always been harshly repressed, as if their bodies were ever piling up in the streets over here; rather there are just incidents, people kill people because they are mad, it happens, they are not the Cherokee nation.

Likewise, homosexuals were rare, and transvestites were even more rare. And most people outside of the cities had ever heard of or ran into a radical feminist. There just wasn't any desire for it in those days, not like the socially engineered epidemic we have today with pseudo scientific claims, unconfirmed test that the media is too quick to announced as confirmed, and shitloads of wasted time, energy, and money from the economic pool, I'm sure, due to all these non-profit organizations throwing elaborate parties in the name of "spreading awareness".

So to make a long story short, this is just another means to draw attention to the subject, generate hype amongst those currently harbouring low intelligence and discernment, thus creating a media hype so sensational, and being discussed in social media (forums included) so as to create an environment where Nintendo would essentially be peer pressured and bullied into responding in some way somewhere down the road and confused young marxist children everywhere will not rejoice, but find other places and people to bully, taunt, and pester.
I hate feminists more than anyone but I'm genuinely confused about what that has to do with this. Don't they just want a small homage to a singer who was murdered?
 
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the difference is that thousands of Nintendo fans don't contribute anything to anybody.
She made song covers and good ones at that, she probably inspired lots of people, had fans and even nintendo found it important to invite her to E3.
Also she was murdered and didn't suicide like Robin. I mean sure Robin deserved it more but making a memorial because of suicide is just weird.
So what if she made song covers? Tons of people do that. The reason for death has nothing to do with why anyone should have their name put into a Zelda game.
 
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Like, would it hurt if Zelda had a dad NPC character whose name was an anagram for Williams? Most people wouldn't even notice it. Or having a tavern somewhere in Hyrule where there is a Singing NPC who can't shut up about how much she adores the princess of Hyrule?
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Assuming that the references are very subtle and individually potentially generic (like in your example, what fantasy universe does NOT have bards singing about princesses?), and when pieced together they may potentially lead to a referenced person (profession of the character, anagrams, piece of clothing, etc), I agree it wouldn't be that bad.

But on principle, something should be designed due to a core idea/concept behind it, you should not be fixated on a change for the sake of changing it and then coming up LATER with how you could justify its existance. That inherently makes for a lower quality end result in most cases, wouldn't you agree?
 

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Even though it's sad how she was killed at such a young age and that it's nice for her fans to get a petition to have her name be one of the character in the upcoming new Zelda game, but the thing the fans should know is that Nintendo isn't obligated to do so just cause a bunch of fans wanted it. It is Nintendo's game, and she was a big fan... just like everyone else.
 
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Imagine every dead fan on his favorite game.
Every game would be like a OUIJA Board.
I could imagine Dampe's graveyard becoming quite a big place if Zelda fans got all the RIP tributes they wanted. :P

someone romhack this into zelda OOT pls XD
 
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