Dragon Quest X: Rise of the Five Tribes announced

[machomuu]

Except Square Enix is one company, not two separate ones. That means a single staff, not a staff on one half of the building and a staff on the other representing the two companies.

I've been reading some articles and haven't seen anything about the development teams, though. The ones actually making the games. I've heard that they have been cooperating with one another, but not a merger between them, just the companies (as a means to lower development costs).

 

[retKHAAAN]

there you go arguing semantics again...

it's Square-Enix now. It doesn't matter if it's "Square" or "Enix" developing the game. they are one. Enix has been assimilated. Resistance is futile.

 

[machomuu]

there you go arguing semantics again...

it's Square-Enix now. It doesn't matter if it's "Square" or "Enix" developing the game. they are one. Enix has been assimilated. Resistance is futile.

I'm not really arguing, I just want the truth.

It's pretty obvious that it's SE now, that's not my question, it's about the dev teams.

EDIT: So yes, this is specifically about the dev teams.

 

[Maedhros]

Except Square Enix is one company, not two separate ones. That means a single staff, not a staff on one half of the building and a staff on the other representing the two companies.

Thanks, that's exactly how it is. Is that difficult to understand?

The only loss was Quintet. They made amazing games. =(

EDIT: IT DOESN'T MATTER, the dev-team is from SQUARE ENIX, therefore it's made by SQUARE-ENIX. There's no team named Team Enix inside Square-Enix.

 

[machomuu]

Except Square Enix is one company, not two separate ones. That means a single staff, not a staff on one half of the building and a staff on the other representing the two companies.

Thanks, that's exactly how it is. Is that difficult to understand?

Nope, I've acknowledged the merger several times. Or just 2 times, don't really care to check.

I'm talking devs, not about the company as a whole.

EDIT: It does matter, that completely regards my question. It's by SE, that's the irrelevant part.

 

[Maedhros]

Well, that's it, good luck someone trying to explain it for him, I'm out of here.

 

[machomuu]

Well, that's it, good luck someone trying to explain it for him, I'm out of here.

I completely understand what you're saying. You're saying that it doesn't matter if the companies have merged and thus everything about the companies are no longer Square and Enix but rather Square Enix, so the dev teams shouldn't matter because whether they are the Square team or the Enix team is irrelevant as they are both Square Enix.

That's obvious, I understood that from the beginning. That, however, is not what I've been talking about.

 

[retKHAAAN]

there you go arguing semantics again...

it's Square-Enix now. It doesn't matter if it's "Square" or "Enix" developing the game. they are one. Enix has been assimilated. Resistance is futile.

I'm not really arguing, I just want the truth.

You Can't Handle The Truth!

but for serious... you might just have to wait until the credits roll when you finish the game if you really want to know the names of those involved...

 

[machomuu]

there you go arguing semantics again...

it's Square-Enix now. It doesn't matter if it's "Square" or "Enix" developing the game. they are one. Enix has been assimilated. Resistance is futile.

I'm not really arguing, I just want the truth.

You Can't Handle The Truth!

but for serious... you might just have to wait until the credits roll when you finish the game if you really want to know the names of those involved...

Yeah, I guess that'd be best...

 

[Maedhros]

Well, that's it, good luck someone trying to explain it for him, I'm out of here.
I completely understand what you're saying. You're saying that it doesn't matter if the companies have merged and thus everything about the companies are no longer Square and Enix but rather Square Enix, so the dev teams shouldn't matter because whether they are the Square team or the Enix team is irrelevant as they are both Square Enix.

That's obvious, I understood that from the beginning. That, however, is not what I've been talking about.


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That's Square, this is Enix. The difference is noticeable.

That's what you first said in response to "Square-Enix and MMORPGS don't go well". That's exactly what you've been talking about (or at least, what I was responding for). You started to talk about team only later.

 

[machomuu]

Well, that's it, good luck someone trying to explain it for him, I'm out of here.
I completely understand what you're saying. You're saying that it doesn't matter if the companies have merged and thus everything about the companies are no longer Square and Enix but rather Square Enix, so the dev teams shouldn't matter because whether they are the Square team or the Enix team is irrelevant as they are both Square Enix.

That's obvious, I understood that from the beginning. That, however, is not what I've been talking about.


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That's Square, this is Enix. The difference is noticeable.

That's what you first said in response to "Square-Enix and MMORPGS don't go well". That's exactly what you've been talking about (or at least, what I was responding for). You started to talk about team only later.

But the teams are what I was referring to. And by "from the beginning" I was referring to the first instance in which the merger was talked about by you, which was exactly 3 posts after the posts you quoted.

 

[Bladexdsl]

Dragon Quest (Enix) is something very different than Final Fantasy (Square). At least for Die Hard Dragon Quest fans.

Because they're two different series? Doesn't mean that it's Enix that's making Dragon Quest now, it's Square-Enix.

I can understand what you said though.

Then elaborate as to how it's made by both Enix and Square?

Since they fused, it's being made by Square-Enix. That means, since DQVIII, the series is from Square-Enix, not only Enix.

they shoulld never have fused enix used to make some great games like terranigma but ever since they teamed with square both companies have lost the ability to make really good games. even FF went down hill.

 

[machomuu]

Dragon Quest (Enix) is something very different than Final Fantasy (Square). At least for Die Hard Dragon Quest fans.

Because they're two different series? Doesn't mean that it's Enix that's making Dragon Quest now, it's Square-Enix.

I can understand what you said though.

Then elaborate as to how it's made by both Enix and Square?

Since they fused, it's being made by Square-Enix. That means, since DQVIII, the series is from Square-Enix, not only Enix.

they shoulld never have fused enix used to make some great games like terranigma but ever since they teamed with square both companies have lost the ability to make really good games. even FF went down hill.

FF went downhill? When, XIV? Then again, XII was a low point too. I liked XIII, though.

 

[Bladexdsl]

FF continues to get worse and worse each time they make another one and now that's it's an MMO it's just going to get worse and worse. the series is dead IMO in fact the whole company is. gone are great games like mana and chrono, terranigma, the saga games and many more all they wanna do these days is make crappy FF games or turn what used to be great games into fucking MMOS! i'm pretty much done with this company they can join rare.

 

[Shuji1987]

Wow, this thread went downhill.

Anyways, read:
http://www.wired.com/gamelife/2011/09/dragon-quest-x-online/

Sums it up pretty good actually.

 

[Bladexdsl]

level-5, the small Japanese developer responsible for Dragon Quest VIII and Dragon Quest IX among other titles, appears to have no involvement with the series’ 10th installment. This is unfortunate, because the Professor Layton creator has done a phenomenal job with the series so far, delivering two charming games that have been both commercially and critically successful. Square Enix’s track record isn’t nearly as hot

and that's the last nail in the coffin i hope they keep this in japan

 

[smile72]

I'm not sure I want Dragon Quest X anymore.....

 

[machomuu]

level-5, the small Japanese developer responsible for Dragon Quest VIII and Dragon Quest IX among other titles, appears to have no involvement with the series’ 10th installment. This is unfortunate, because the Professor Layton creator has done a phenomenal job with the series so far, delivering two charming games that have been both commercially and critically successful. Square Enix’s track record isn’t nearly as hot

and that's the last nail in the coffin i hope they keep this in japan

Why? Have you played it? If it's bad, why would you want only Japan to have it?

Plus, how the f*ck should Level-5 have any effect on your decision? They've only worked on 2 games. 2.

 

[Gahars]

Jeez, Machomuu. You're acting as if he insulted your mother or something.

Just look at the facts. Of course we don't have the final game in our hands, but everything Square-Enix has been saying hasn't sounded too good. An online focused game in a series that has, up to this point, only been a single player experience on a Nintendo console that will force players to pay a monthly fee, even if they don't want to play online? Right after SE's disastrous XIV and the very meh XI?

Yeah, I think the concern is very justified.

As for the Level-5 thing, they've only made two games, but they were the two most recent, very well received games (Some of the best received games in the series, if I'm not mistaken). Pulling a good team after success like that just isn't a good sign.

I get wanting to support a company when they are going for a "new direction", but that doesn't change the simple facts of the matter. Sometimes, you have to call an obvious blunder for what it is.

 

[emmanu888]

theres that too Dragon Quest X famicom there also preparing a famicom version of the game and apparently it will have internet support

i found that wierd that a famicom version of a wii game will have online since the famicom didn't really have internet support