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Will you get the vaccine?

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Like I said I have a level of trust here, but we don't know if it's safe long term or not.

And there has never been an RNA vaccine before so it remains to be seen what possible side effects there could be.

It's possible that taking vaccines back one step from protein to rna could produce more cell mediated auto immunity and we simply won't know if that will be the case or not until we watch and wait.
You're right, but there is no evidence of any long term side effects, nor is there evidence of any mechanisms for long term side effects.

The vaccine has been demonstrated to be safe, and anyone who can medically be vaccinated should be vaccinated as soon as possible.
 
You're right, but there is no evidence of any long term side effects, nor is there evidence of any mechanisms for long term side effects.

The vaccine has been demonstrated to be safe, and anyone who can medically be vaccinated should be vaccinated as soon as possible.
As there is currently a shortage I say let whoever wants to be vaccinated get it and let the wary sit back

Once we have a surplus and people are still holding out then we can deal with the naysayers - I have a feeling tho that as things continue to go smoothly more people will want it
 
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As there is currently a shortage I say let whoever wants to be vaccinated get it and let the wary sit back

Once we have a surplus and people are still holding out then we can deal with the naysayers - I have a feeling tho that as things continue to go smoothly more people will want it
If a person can get vaccinated, they should attempt to get vaccinated as soon as possible.

Unless a government or institution restricts the supply to certain groups and/or recommends only certain groups should be vaccinated for the time being, a person should attempt to get vaccinated.

It's irresponsible to say anybody should "sit back" when the vaccine is available to them. We want as many people vaccinated as possible, as soon as possible. Your advice could get people killed.
 
If a person can get vaccinated, they should attempt to get vaccinated as soon as possible.

Unless a government or institution restricts the supply to certain groups and/or recommends only certain groups should be vaccinated for the time being, a person should attempt to get vaccinated.

It's irresponsible to say anybody should "sit back" when the vaccine is available to them. We want as many people vaccinated as possible, as soon as possible. Your advice could get people killed.
The government has restricted supplies to healthcare workers and the elderly/institutionalized and even then we don't have enough vaccines - so I don't think my advice is wrong

The main reason we have stockpiles despite this is poor planning and lack of funding for vaccination programs and staff
 
It's authorised for emergency use. Joe Biden and Anthony Fauci have taken it publicly.

The dose makes the poison. The amount of 4-hydroxybutyl in two doses of the vaccine is safely low.
That makes sense for the 4-hydroxybutyl part.
As for authorized for emergency use, so in effect the vaccine is not known to be adequately safe, if it was then the FDA would have approve of it.
 
The government has restricted supplies to healthcare workers and the elderly/institutionalized and even then we don't have enough vaccines - so I don't think my advice is wrong

The main reason we have stockpiles despite this is poor planning and lack of funding for vaccination programs and staff
My point is when a government considers it appropriate for Joe Schmo to get vaccinated, nothing is gained by him "waiting it out." He's not doing anyone a favor.
 
My point is when a government considers it appropriate for Joe Schmo to get vaccinated, nothing is gained by him "waiting it out." He's not doing anyone a favor.
While I will get vaccinated as soon as possible and highly doubt the vaccine has currently unknown long-term-side effects, I also think x65943 is right.

More data will become available in the future and this data will be used to create more complete risk-assessments. If these risk-assessments find the vaccine to be safe (and they probably will), more people will decide to get vaccinated, especially if they see their family and friends getting vaccinated without any severe or long-term side-effects.

Without enough vaccines for everyone who wants one, vaccine hesitancy is not currently a bottleneck towards herd immunity (this is assuming vaccinated people are less-infectious or non-infectious). When it does become a bottleneck we will have more information to fight it with.

And idiots like UltraSUPRA are a lost cause. People like him need to be quarantined in a COVID-safe pram.
 
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There's a lot of conspiratorial bullshit to unpack here, and I definitely won't get to everything. A few notes:
  1. There are limitations to COVID-19 testing, but that doesn't make them without value. The main limitation is a lot of people with the virus aren't being tested, since a person can have the disease without symptoms.
  2. Approximately 336,000 Americans have died of COVID-19 as of this post, and there's no evidence this number has been significantly inflated. Even though the number might be somewhat smaller (or higher), it's a really good estimate.
  3. Hospitalizations are and continue to be overwhelmed, and this is well-documented. The "where are the patients?" sentiment is conspiratorial nonsense, it requires willful ignorance to believe it, and it's frankly offensive.
  4. Social distancing, mask wearing, and vaccines demonstrably help in reducing the spread of COVID-19.
  5. You should look into how double blind studies work. It's not at all as you described. Compared to those who got a placebo, the vaccine is approximately 90-95% effective against contracting COVID-19. In addition, to see if a vaccine actually works in the real world, people with the vaccine or placebo need to be exposed in the real world. There's nothing problematic from a scientific point of view with how the vaccine trials were run. In fact, they were done extremely well.
  6. Trump rallies are literal super spreader events because a.) You can demonstrate COVID-19 case increases left in Trump's wake, and b.) These events were largely anti-mask. The same things cannot be said about your examples of things you falsely believe should be considered superspreader events.
  7. The vaccine does not alter your DNA. That's not how it works.
  8. It is your body and your choice, but that doesn't free you from the repercussions of not getting vaccinated. For example, you might not be allowed to travel out of the country in the future unless you've been vaccinated. There are also the consequences of conscience with regard to putting yourself and others at risk for a potentially deadly disease by being a petulant brat and not being vaccinated, probably because the President thought it would be a good idea to make the pandemic a political issue.

Your reply has a lot of liberal sheep bullshit to unpack but I'll make an attempt........

  1. When your test is flawed (see Elon Musk example), how can you base ANY data on it when it's proven to be bullshit? If Elon was the ONLY PERSON ON THE PLANET to show the test was not accurate, I'd concede this point but I personally know somebody who received a positive AND negative result and there are countless stories just like this all over. Therefore, the existing COVID test is NOT valid if it has such high false positive rates.
  2. Since it's been proven that the tests for COVID are bogus, and deaths are being FALSELY attributed to COVID, why do you think the CDC stats carry any weight?
  3. Hospitals are NOT being overwhelmed with COVID patients. Since Facebook/Google/Youtube don't like people pointing out this liberal lie people like you keep parroting (about swamped hospitals), they delete the videos one after another and ban accounts for people that keep posting them. If the hospitals ARE being overwhelmed, why are they deleting these videos that show otherwise and banning the people that upload them? "Busy" hospitals: https://www.bitchute.com/video/RDR0fd7mUERj/ and TikTok nurses that are soooooooooooo busy: https://www.bitchute.com/video/ttA5KDSjYU15/ And lets not forget the military medical ship that left New York without seeing a single COVID patient: https://www.npr.org/2020/05/07/8517...n-most-without-treating-any-covid-19-patients
  4. Lets ask Fauci what he thinks about wearing masks:
  5. I totally understand double blind studies/placebos.... but my lightning vaccine example still stands. I'm also still waiting on the peer review of Pfizer's phase 3 trials............. and waiting............ and waiting....
  6. Trump rallies are super spreader events and the BLM/fascist mobs are NOT???????????? MUAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA my God man, are you for real? Get on YouTube sometime and watch the looters/rioters..... whoops, I mean.... peaceful protestors WITHOUT THEIR MASKS ON running around. Wow, you had to have been laughing your ass off when you typed that. You can NOT be serious!
  7. Doesn't alter your DNA? HA! Lets hear it straight from the horse's mouth..... Dr. Bill Gates, vaccine expert: skip to about 1:35 and start listening when he says, "you put instructions in the CODE"..... gee..... wonder what code he's talking about????????????
  8. It will not end well for the person who forces a needle into my arm and injects me with mystery goo. I'm a student of history and governments are, HANDS DOWN, the largest mass murderers on the planet. I trust nothing they say or do. If governments are so concerned about peoples well being, how about they start banning things that kill more people than COVID 19? Lets start with banning cigarettes, alcohol, fatty foods, GMO laden foods, lack of access to clean water, lack of access to enough food, lack of shelter, and on and on and on. Then, after we help humanity with alllllllllllllllll those problems, THEN we can talk about a virus that's pretty much like a bad flu.

Like most liberals, you automatically assume that anyone with an opposing view supports "the right" or the orange man. Well, hate to break it to you but anyone that thinks their side is always right, all the time, is a sheep being led to the slaughter house. The left AND right are equally WORTHLESS and both sides lie through their teeth to stay in power.

COVID (and all the BS surroundiong it) is not about saving anyone from anything, it's part of the plan to destroy this country.
 
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Your reply has a lot of liberal sheep bullshit to unpack but I'll make an attempt........

  1. When your test is flawed (see Elon Musk example), how can you base ANY data on it when it's proven to be bullshit? If Elon was the ONLY PERSON ON THE PLANET to show the test was not accurate, I'd concede this point but I personally know somebody who received a positive AND negative result and there are countless stories just like this all over. Therefore, the existing COVID test is NOT valid if it has such high false positive rates.
  2. Since it's been proven that the tests for COVID are bogus, and deaths are being FALSELY attributed to COVID, why do you think the CDC stats carry any weight?
  3. Hospitals are NOT being overwhelmed with COVID patients. Since Facebook/Google/Youtube don't like people pointing out this liberal lie people like you keep parroting (about swamped hospitals), they delete the videos one after another and ban accounts for people that keep posting them. If the hospitals ARE being overwhelmed, why are they deleting these videos that show otherwise and banning the people that upload them? "Busy" hospitals: https://www.bitchute.com/video/RDR0fd7mUERj/ and TikTok nurses that are soooooooooooo busy: https://www.bitchute.com/video/ttA5KDSjYU15/ And lets not forget the military medical ship that left New York without seeing a single COVID patient: https://www.npr.org/2020/05/07/8517...n-most-without-treating-any-covid-19-patients
  4. Lets ask Fauci what he thinks about wearing masks:
  5. I totally understand double blind studies/placebos.... but my lightning vaccine example still stands. I'm also still waiting on the peer review of Phizer's phase 3 trials............. and waiting............ and waiting....
  6. Trump rallies are super spreader events and the BLM/fascist mobs are NOT???????????? MUAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA my God man, are you for real? Get on YouTube sometime and watch the looters/rioters..... whoops, I mean.... peaceful protestors WITHOUT THEIR MASKS ON running around. Wow, you had to have been laughing your ass off when you typed that. You can NOT be serious!
  7. Doesn't alter your DNA? HA! Lets hear it straight from the horse's mouth..... Dr. Bill Gates, vaccine expert: skip to about 1:35 and start listening when he says, "you put instructions in the CODE"..... gee..... wonder what code he's talking about????????????
  8. It will not end well for the person who forces a needle into my arm and injects me with mystery goo. I'm a student of history and governments are, HANDS DOWN, the largest mass murderers on the planet. I trust nothing they say or do. If governments are so concerned about peoples well being, how about they start banning things that kill more people than COVID 19? Lets start with banning cigarettes, alcohol, fatty foods, GMO laden foods, lack of access to clean water, lack of access to enough food, lack of shelter, and on and on and on. Then, after we help humanity with alllllllllllllllll those problems, THEN we can talk about a virus that's pretty much like a bad flu.

Like most liberals, you automatically assume that anyone with an opposing view supports "the right" or the orange man. Well, hate to break it to you but anyone that thinks their side is always right, all the time, is a sheep being led to the slaughter house. The left AND right are equally WORTHLESS and both sides lie through their teeth to stay in power.

COVID (and all the BS surroundiong it) is not about saving anyone from anything, it's part of the plan to destroy this country.

And as I just said, idiots like you need to be quarantined in a COVID-safe pram.

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Your reply has a lot of liberal sheep bullshit to unpack but I'll make an attempt........

  1. When your test is flawed (see Elon Musk example), how can you base ANY data on it when it's proven to be bullshit? If Elon was the ONLY PERSON ON THE PLANET to show the test was not accurate, I'd concede this point but I personally know somebody who received a positive AND negative result and there are countless stories just like this all over. Therefore, the existing COVID test is NOT valid if it has such high false positive rates.
  2. Since it's been proven that the tests for COVID are bogus, and deaths are being FALSELY attributed to COVID, why do you think the CDC stats carry any weight?
  3. Hospitals are NOT being overwhelmed with COVID patients. Since Facebook/Google/Youtube don't like people pointing out this liberal lie people like you keep parroting (about swamped hospitals), they delete the videos one after another and ban accounts for people that keep posting them. If the hospitals ARE being overwhelmed, why are they deleting these videos that show otherwise and banning the people that upload them? "Busy" hospitals: https://www.bitchute.com/video/RDR0fd7mUERj/ and TikTok nurses that are soooooooooooo busy: https://www.bitchute.com/video/ttA5KDSjYU15/ And lets not forget the military medical ship that left New York without seeing a single COVID patient: https://www.npr.org/2020/05/07/8517...n-most-without-treating-any-covid-19-patients
  4. Lets ask Fauci what he thinks about wearing masks:
  5. I totally understand double blind studies/placebos.... but my lightning vaccine example still stands. I'm also still waiting on the peer review of Phizer's phase 3 trials............. and waiting............ and waiting....
  6. Trump rallies are super spreader events and the BLM/fascist mobs are NOT???????????? MUAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA my God man, are you for real? Get on YouTube sometime and watch the looters/rioters..... whoops, I mean.... peaceful protestors WITHOUT THEIR MASKS ON running around. Wow, you had to have been laughing your ass off when you typed that. You can NOT be serious!
  7. Doesn't alter your DNA? HA! Lets hear it straight from the horse's mouth..... Dr. Bill Gates, vaccine expert: skip to about 1:35 and start listening when he says, "you put instructions in the CODE"..... gee..... wonder what code he's talking about????????????
  8. It will not end well for the person who forces a needle into my arm and injects me with mystery goo. I'm a student of history and governments are, HANDS DOWN, the largest mass murderers on the planet. I trust nothing they say or do. If governments are so concerned about peoples well being, how about they start banning things that kill more people than COVID 19? Lets start with banning cigarettes, alcohol, fatty foods, GMO laden foods, lack of access to clean water, lack of access to enough food, lack of shelter, and on and on and on. Then, after we help humanity with alllllllllllllllll those problems, THEN we can talk about a virus that's pretty much like a bad flu.

Like most liberals, you automatically assume that anyone with an opposing view supports "the right" or the orange man. Well, hate to break it to you but anyone that thinks their side is always right, all the time, is a sheep being led to the slaughter house. The left AND right are equally WORTHLESS and both sides lie through their teeth to stay in power.

COVID (and all the BS surroundiong it) is not about saving anyone from anything, it's part of the plan to destroy this country.

Antibody tests should not be used to diagnose an active infection. Keeping that in mind, COVID-19 tests are largely accurate.
 
And as I just said, idiots like you need to be quarantined in a COVID-safe pram.

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Great counter argument, so intelligent and thoughtful! Well played!!!

Like the other guy, you can't counter any of my points so you must stoop to this.

Hey, if the vaccine works, you have zero to worry about from people like me who don't want it.

On another note, I'll never understand people like you who want to push your beliefs on others and force everyone to conform to what YOU think is right. Hmmm...where have I seen this type of behavior before in history????????? Have you ever thought, for one second.... maybe you're being lied to about COVID? Do you think that is at all possible or do you always swallow whatever the government throws at you without question? Do you lack critical thinking skills by chance?

I promise you that if I'm on my deathbed with COVID, I won't beg anyone for help.
 
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Your reply has a lot of liberal sheep bullshit to unpack but I'll make an attempt........

  1. When your test is flawed (see Elon Musk example), how can you base ANY data on it when it's proven to be bullshit? If Elon was the ONLY PERSON ON THE PLANET to show the test was not accurate, I'd concede this point but I personally know somebody who received a positive AND negative result and there are countless stories just like this all over. Therefore, the existing COVID test is NOT valid if it has such high false positive rates.
  2. Since it's been proven that the tests for COVID are bogus, and deaths are being FALSELY attributed to COVID, why do you think the CDC stats carry any weight?
  3. Hospitals are NOT being overwhelmed with COVID patients. Since Facebook/Google/Youtube don't like people pointing out this liberal lie people like you keep parroting (about swamped hospitals), they delete the videos one after another and ban accounts for people that keep posting them. If the hospitals ARE being overwhelmed, why are they deleting these videos that show otherwise and banning the people that upload them? "Busy" hospitals: https://www.bitchute.com/video/RDR0fd7mUERj/ and TikTok nurses that are soooooooooooo busy: https://www.bitchute.com/video/ttA5KDSjYU15/ And lets not forget the military medical ship that left New York without seeing a single COVID patient: https://www.npr.org/2020/05/07/8517...n-most-without-treating-any-covid-19-patients
  4. Lets ask Fauci what he thinks about wearing masks:
  5. I totally understand double blind studies/placebos.... but my lightning vaccine example still stands. I'm also still waiting on the peer review of Phizer's phase 3 trials............. and waiting............ and waiting....
  6. Trump rallies are super spreader events and the BLM/fascist mobs are NOT???????????? MUAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA my God man, are you for real? Get on YouTube sometime and watch the looters/rioters..... whoops, I mean.... peaceful protestors WITHOUT THEIR MASKS ON running around. Wow, you had to have been laughing your ass off when you typed that. You can NOT be serious!
  7. Doesn't alter your DNA? HA! Lets hear it straight from the horse's mouth..... Dr. Bill Gates, vaccine expert: skip to about 1:35 and start listening when he says, "you put instructions in the CODE"..... gee..... wonder what code he's talking about????????????
  8. It will not end well for the person who forces a needle into my arm and injects me with mystery goo. I'm a student of history and governments are, HANDS DOWN, the largest mass murderers on the planet. I trust nothing they say or do. If governments are so concerned about peoples well being, how about they start banning things that kill more people than COVID 19? Lets start with banning cigarettes, alcohol, fatty foods, GMO laden foods, lack of access to clean water, lack of access to enough food, lack of shelter, and on and on and on. Then, after we help humanity with alllllllllllllllll those problems, THEN we can talk about a virus that's pretty much like a bad flu.

Like most liberals, you automatically assume that anyone with an opposing view supports "the right" or the orange man. Well, hate to break it to you but anyone that thinks their side is always right, all the time, is a sheep being led to the slaughter house. The left AND right are equally WORTHLESS and both sides lie through their teeth to stay in power.

COVID (and all the BS surroundiong it) is not about saving anyone from anything, it's part of the plan to destroy this country.

1) We don't know what tests he took, what and why they're flawed. Were it the same company? Different once?
2) No, some tests are bogus for sure, stop buying the chinese crap once.
3) My hospitals are overfilled sadly.
4) Test of different masks:

(If they didn't work. Why the fuck do Asians use them since way before? Also, doctors during surgery...)
5) They were already working on vaccines on SARS and MERS already. It wasn't that hard to shift to the new COVID-19 strain once the genome was decrypted.
7) Dr. Bill Gates? Gates isn't a Medical doctor. He is a freaking software developer, that has his own Foundation.
He also say "You put instructions in the code to make that shape". Aka PROGRAM THE Immun system to know about the virus, it doesn't change any of YOUR dna. Stop spreading false propaganda.....
8) YOUR government is. Not mine. Get your head out of your ass.


EDIT: How a mRNA vaccine works since people apparently can't google for 2 seconds -
 
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Antibody tests should not be used to diagnose an active infection. Keeping that in mind, COVID-19 tests are largely accurate.

Keep this in mind; the nasal testing that is taking place all over the world (that is being used to tell people if they are negative or positive for COVID and governments are using this data to force people to stay at home and destroying the economy and driving small companies out of business) is NOT accurate.
 
Keep this in mind; the nasal testing that is taking place all over the world (that is being used to tell people if they are negative or positive for COVID and governments are using this data to force people to stay at home and destroying the economy and driving small companies out of business) is NOT accurate.
OH NO THINK OF THE ECONOMY! Oh wait... the business owner died... oh well.
Argument like these are superflawed.
 
1) We don't know what tests he took, what and why they're flawed. Were it the same company? Different once?
2) No, some tests are bogus for sure, stop buying the chinese crap once.
3) My hospitals are overfilled sadly.
4) Test of different masks:

(If they didn't work. Why the fuck do Asians use them since way before? Also, doctors during surgery...)
5) They were already working on vaccines on SARS and MERS already. It wasn't that hard to shift to the new COVID-19 strain once the genome was decrypted.
7) Dr. Bill Gates? Gates isn't a Medical doctor. He is a freaking software developer, that has his own Foundation.
He also say "You put instructions in the code to make that shape". Aka PROGRAM THE Immun system to know about the virus, it doesn't change any of YOUR dna. Stop spreading false propaganda.....
8) YOUR government is. Not mine. Get your head out of your ass.


  1. According to Elon it was a rapid antigen test with a nasal swab. Same nurse, same machine, 2 swabs from each nostril. All done at the same time. (He didn't come back 2 hours or 4 weeks later.)
  2. Um, I don't think Elon used some back market Chinese testing machine. The person I personally know that tested positive and negative had her test done in a major city at a large hospital. Not some Chinese/back alley district.
  3. My hospitals are empty. I have friends/family that work in several hospitals around me and they all say the same. "Few patients in the COVID wing but we have plenty of empty beds and ventilators standing by."
  4. Masks are pointless. The COVID virus is too small to be filtered by these 3M masks.
  5. Good for them. Doesn't change the facts that this is an untested vaccine technology. Pretty weird how CONgress was in a hurry to pass a law the shields these vaccine makers from lawsuits down the road when it's discovered that their mystery goop causes all sorts of nasty, debilitating problems.
  6. ???
  7. Bill Gates isn't a medical doctor? SAY WHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAT? Better let him know that!
    1. Ring ring, school is in session children! Today's lesson.... DNA 101. When Dr. Gates talks about inserting code, yes, he's talking about telling your white blood cells (immune system) how to produce a protein (better pray to God this mystery protein won't harm you) that is unique to the COVID virus (CDC wording, not mine) so your body knows to kill it. And where are white blood cells produced? In your bone marrow. If you think changing the type of white blood cells your body produces won't have any impact on your DNA, and other parts of your body, you are delusional. But go ahead, keep trusting the medical experts like Dr. Gates and Anthony "masks are pointless, or wait a minute... maybe they aren't" Fauci.
PS. (8?) All the world governments are selling us down the river. Get YOUR head out of YOUR ass.

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OH NO THINK OF THE ECONOMY! Oh wait... the business owner died... oh well.
Argument like these are superflawed.

That's a dick attitude. I know one business owner that lost everything due to the lockdown. Her family is financially ruined. I help them out as much as I can but it's a super sad situation they are in right now. Her husband died a few years ago and she provided all the money for her small family and now they are on the verge of being kicked out of their house and facing homelessness.

Another small business owner I know pays for the medicals bills of his aging parents and now that he was forced to shut down due to BS covid guidelines, he too is facing unimaginable financial hardship.

You really need to re-think your attitude. Not everyone is weathering the covid storm as well as you apparently.

EDIT: I have a feeling I know what you're going to say......" a few bankrupt people is nothing compared to saving the lives of 5,000 old people". My reply is.... let people make their own choices. Like the government does with keeping tobacco and alcohol legal. If you want to smoke or drink yourself to death, fine. Likewise, if you want to walk around without a mask or don't want to get the vaccine and risk catching COVID, fine.

Don't sensor any data. Let ALL information (GOOD AND BAD) flow freely and leave it up to the individual to chose what is best for themselves.
 
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  1. According to Elon it was a rapid antigen test with a nasal swab. Same nurse, same machine, 2 swabs from each nostril. All done at the same time. (He didn't come back 2 hours or 4 weeks later.)
  2. Um, I don't think Elon used some back market Chinese testing machine. The person I personally know that tested positive and negative had her test done in a major city at a large hospital. Not some Chinese/back alley district.
  3. My hospitals are empty. I have friends/family that work in several hospitals around me and they all say the same. "Few patients in the COVID wing but we have plenty of empty beds and ventilators standing by."
  4. Masks are pointless. The COVID virus is too small to be filtered by these 3M masks.
  5. Good for them. Doesn't change the facts that this is an untested vaccine technology. Pretty weird how CONgress was in a hurry to pass a law the shields these vaccine makers from lawsuits down the road when it's discovered that their mystery goop causes all sorts of nasty, debilitating problems.
  6. ???
  7. Bill Gates isn't a medical doctor? SAY WHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAT? Better let him know that!
    1. Ring ring, school is in session children! Today's lesson.... DNA 101. When Dr. Gates talks about inserting code, yes, he's talking about telling your white blood cells (immune system) how to produce a protein (better pray to God this mystery protein won't harm you) that is unique to the COVID virus (CDC wording, not mine) so your body knows to kill it. And where are white blood cells produced? In your bone marrow. If you think changing the type of white blood cells your body produces won't have any impact on your DNA, and other parts of your body, you are delusional. But go ahead, keep trusting the medical experts like Dr. Gates and Anthony "masks are pointless, or wait a minute... maybe they aren't" Fauci.
PS. (8?) All the world governments are selling us down the river. Get YOUR head out of YOUR ass.

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That's a dick attitude. I know one business owner that lost everything due to the lockdown. Her family is financially ruined. I help them out as much as I can but it's a super sad situation they are in right now. Her husband died a few years ago and she provided all the money for her small family and now they are on the verge of being kicked out of their house and facing homelessness.

Another small business owner I know pays for the medicals bills of his aging parents and now that he was forced to shut down due to BS covid guidelines, he too is facing unimaginable financial hardship.

You really need to re-think your attitude. Not everyone is weathering the covid storm as well as you apparently.

EDIT: I have a feeling I know what you're going to say......" a few bankrupt people is nothing compared to saving the lives of 5,000 old people". My reply is.... let people make their own choices. Like the government does with keeping tobacco and alcohol legal. If you want to smoke or drink yourself to death, fine. Likewise, if you want to walk around without a mask or don't want to get the vaccine and risk catching COVID, fine.

Don't sensor any data. Let ALL information (GOOD AND BAD) flow freely and leave it up to the individual to chose what is best for themselves.
Cool story bro.
 
Respectfully, you clearly have no idea what you're talking about.
Respectfully, you clearly dont have either. :) So whats the standard? We list controversies for one President, but not for the other? All evidence for one president is missing? All evidence for one president is missing, so we hide it on a separate page, people will click on less often?

How about the incongruencies in tone? I mean, I might agree with it, but why is the Trump wiki page littered with qualifiers that make him sound like a bad president?

While Obamas is simply missing the criticism?

There is a critique on form thats possible here.

And before you get all flustered again, Wikipedia is not the unfaltering gift from god thats immune to criticism, void of controversy - and an an undisputed record of history, nor is your confidence in one source of information even close to healthy - and your attitude towards formal criticism dismissive - you resorted to a personal attacks to destract from that.

Only thing I'm saying is, dont employ double standards. And dont dismiss valid structural criticism as "whining". You might be wrong in this instance.
 
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Everyone's a doctor now huh?

The lügenpresse seems to think Bill Gates is an infectious disease/vaccine expert. I guess the qualifications to be a doctor, according to lame stream media, is be filthy rich and cripple a bunch of children in India with the vaccines that you push. But don't feel bad for Dr. Gates. The millions of dollars he donates to advance his eugenics program is repaid with interested in the BILLIONS when these countries buy whatever vaccine him and his boys cooked up.
 
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