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I suggest to open a different thread just to collect bounty entries and leave this one for discussion and bickering. That said, I'd donate 10$ if said "cfw" was open source.
truth is if it was anything more than give me "r0m loader pl0x" i would happily donate, i.e a full open source and original project with documentation and write up etc........sorry fact is, the OP doesn't know what he wants, the pledgers dont know what they want....all this thread seems to want is a rom loader given out for free on a promise....which is a pathetic notion, and any dev who would think its a great idea would have to be stupid
I'd correct you both, but you're clearly both not fond of reading anything. Stick to the topic and stop being belligerent.

json & gamesquest1 - If either of you do fancy reading, how about actually reading:
http://smealum.net/?p=517
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http://yifan.lu/

/ignored both for being mindless apes, attacking reason.
aka "i chat BS and can't back it up"....yeah i already read those write ups and you stating the GW exploit and ninjhax are the same obviously proves you did not.....i mean you didnt even know ninjhax uses cubic ninja and not mii maker....the clue is in the name :rolleyes:
 

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I'd correct you both, but you're clearly both not fond of reading anything. Stick to the topic and stop being belligerent.

json & gamesquest1 - If either of you do fancy reading, how about actually reading:
http://smealum.net/?p=517
&
http://yifan.lu/

/ignored both for being mindless apes, attacking reason.

But I think json is being more sensible here, as I don't see smea releasing any kernel vuln, and according to the link you shared it is a 4 stage exploit after all.
If GW is only stealing, I can assure you that:
1) There will not be a PUBLIC browser exploit NOW
2) Region free will not exist(due to number 1)
3) You will not be able to downgrade your FW
4) You can't install CFW to any console higher than 4.x(due to number 3)

I do not deny the fact that smea is a genius. However with only him in the scene, what we can do will only be homebrew.(Region free maybe, no PUBLIC cia installation, downgrade, kernel access, personal dump, and so on)
 

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According to the Yifan Lu website, what's posted there is enough to have it "work", even if you don't FULLY understand how it does. I'm sure there are experienced developers and assembly whizzes who could understand the code and patch what's needed to remove the use for a card. I sincerely hope someone steps up to the plate and fucks GW up and their secretive work
 

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According to the Yifan Lu website, what's posted there is enough to have it "work", even if you don't FULLY understand how it does. I'm sure there are experienced developers and assembly whizzes who could understand the code and patch what's needed to remove the use for a card. I sincerely hope someone steps up to the plate and fucks GW up and their secretive work AND GIB ME MY FREE GAME ROM LOAD ZOMG
Haha, there, I helped you to fix what's missed out.

On a side note, I seriously hope every people that whines about how GW is selling their product try to study how to hack the console itself. I think if that happens, the CFW will come out in no time.
 

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Haha, there, I helped you to fix what's missed out.

On a side note, I seriously hope every people that whines about how GW is selling their product try to study how to hack the console itself. I think if that happens, the CFW will come out in no time.


That's stupid and makes no sense. Not everyone is good at everything. I'm a mining technician and a multilingual translator, not a programmer, and I won't dedicate time to that. That's why there's a thread like this to "search for talents".

As for the "gib roms" part. Uh, grats for the insight I guess?
 

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That's stupid and makes no sense. Not everyone is good at everything. I'm a mining technician and a multilingual translator, not a programmer, and I won't dedicate time to that. That's why there's a thread like this to "search for talents".

As for the "gib roms" part. Uh, grats for the insight I guess?
That basically sums up what is happening here. Those that are capable won't release it for public/won't dedicate time without any benefit. Even if they did release it, no proper support will be given. Those that are not just whine in the forum.
Thanks.
 

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That basically sums up what is happening here. Those that are capable won't release it for public/won't dedicate time without any benefit. Even if they did release it, no proper support will be given. Those that are not just whine in the forum.
Thanks.


If only someone created a thread willing to put money into their efforts!
 
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''to create a bounty thread for 9.2.0 CFW''
Even if they did release it, no proper support will be given.
Will the person that pay for it willing to pay again if the exploit gets blocked? Will they work again even if they are being paid?
More importantly, if you are willing to pay, why not pay for something that is currently working and will receive constant support?

Edit: Nah I am out of this thread. I seriously doubt there will be a good CFW coming out of this(at least not in the near future). Good luck to those that are still hoping so.
 
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Even if they did release it, no proper support will be given.
Will the person that pay for it willing to pay again if the exploit gets blocked? Will they work again even if they are being paid?
More importantly, if you are willing to pay, why not pay for something that is currently working and will receive constant support?

Can you stop bringing that up all the time ? This is a bounty thread for a CFW for 9.2 not for a CFW which will be updated forever for free after the initial payment, and I don't want to buy a gateway because I have no needs for it, I buy my games... and I want the cfw to can run homebrew unsigned cia or my own code without having to buy a DRM device.
 

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Even if they did release it, no proper support will be given.
Will the person that pay for it willing to pay again if the exploit gets blocked? Will they work again even if they are being paid?
More importantly, if you are willing to pay, why not pay for something that is currently working and will receive constant support?

Edit: Nah I am out of this thread. I seriously doubt there will be a good CFW coming out of this(at least not in the near future). Good luck to those that are still hoping so.


talking about $10/$20 man ! again I prefer to pay on CFW

$10 for +- 100 games, Homebrew, SNES... not bad

'' Can you stop bringing that up all the time ? This is a bounty thread for a CFW for 9.2 not for a CFW which will be updated forever for free after the initial payment, and I don't want to buy a gateway because I have no needs for it, I buy my games... and I want the cfw to can run homebrew unsigned cia or my own code without having to buy a DRM device. ''
 

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Lol, who here remembers the very, very reputable 3DBrews' attempt at a fundraiser? That worked out pretty well, -didn't it? :rofl2:
I vaguely remember a notice about a delayed fundraiser on the 3Dbrew wiki a while back. Was it for the decapping fundraiser?

Your sig is a bit outdated considering all those points no longer apply ;)
 
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Oh lawd, it's all the same shit everywhere. "No release because only I'm allowed to pirate shit" "u suck" "ur entitled". Just knock it off. Nintendo sucks, gateway sucks, just release the damn thing and put them both out of business.
 

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Can you stop bringing that up all the time ? This is a bounty thread for a CFW for 9.2 not for a CFW which will be updated forever for free after the initial payment, and I don't want to buy a gateway because I have no needs for it, I buy my games... and I want the cfw to can run homebrew unsigned cia or my own code without having to buy a DRM device.


Updated forever for free might be wishful thinking :O
I doubt you'd need what the OP described then either. He's asking for something capable of dumping carts and running them from the homescreen. That's what a flashcart does, face it, it's the same thing without a cheap piece of hardware to enable you to do it.
You could just run roms with a setup like that, unless the dev stopped that from happening in some way, you know, like some form of moral DRM lol.
And you don't like DRM to that degree, why own a 3ds?

I really don't get this. Like I said, R4 compaines, Supercard as well got a shit ton of money without all this crap, we just bought the damn cards for roms or homebrew or both.
If someone can explain to me the difference between Gateway and EVERY other company like it (R4, Supercard, CobraODE, xk3y). I'd be happy to hear it.
 
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I really don't get this. Like I said, R4 compaines, Supercard as well got a shit ton of money without all this crap, we just bought the damn cards for roms or homebrew or both.
If someone can explain to me the difference between Gateway and EVERY other company like it (R4, Supercard, CobraODE, xk3y). I'd be happy to hear it.


3DS updates, DS didn't. DS cards were a buy once and forget type of thing. With Gateway, we'll need constant updates which may or may not happen. On top of that R4 cards and the like were all clones, rather than the gateway/sky3ds/etc deal we have now. Which means that if there was a fix for R4, it probably worked with Acecard, TTDS, etc. On top of all that, the DS cards could easily be updated/patched/fixed/etc easily by nearly any company or person with the card. Gateway puts a bunch of obfuscation to prevent this, meaning you are stuck relying on gateway.

I'm gonna say I'm glad MT-card is in the game, since their stuff doesn't have DRM and lets anyone use it, card or not. I'm actually running MT software right now. I don't see why gateway couldn't do the same. Literally every flash card company has done it that way.

It's not so much buying the card, but buying a card only supported by a single company that could be blocked/abandoned at any point. I'd also like to note I bought my DS flashcard for $30-40. Gateway looks like it's $80 from some retailers. Why not sell just the 3DS card for cheaper and let use use our existing DS flash cards?

TL;DR: the difference is that the R4 companies shared tech, intentionally or not. Gateway is keeping it all hoarded up. Whether that's good or bad is up to the purchaser. I personally don't like such a thing, which is why I'd like an open source CFW. So anyone can contribute (including the flashcard companies).
 

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3DS updates, DS didn't. DS cards were a buy once and forget type of thing. With Gateway, we'll need constant updates which may or may not happen. On top of that R4 cards and the like were all clones, rather than the gateway/sky3ds/etc deal we have now. Which means that if there was a fix for R4, it probably worked with Acecard, TTDS, etc. On top of all that, the DS cards could easily be updated/patched/fixed/etc easily by nearly any company or person with the card. Gateway puts a bunch of obfuscation to prevent this, meaning you are stuck relying on gateway.

I'm gonna say I'm glad MT-card is in the game, since their stuff doesn't have DRM and lets anyone use it, card or not. I'm actually running MT software right now. I don't see why gateway couldn't do the same. Literally every flash card company has done it that way.

It's not so much buying the card, but buying a card only supported by a single company that could be blocked/abandoned at any point. I'd also like to note I bought my DS flashcard for $30-40. Gateway looks like it's $80 from some retailers. Why not sell just the 3DS card for cheaper and let use use our existing DS flash cards?

TL;DR: the difference is that the R4 companies shared tech, intentionally or not. Gateway is keeping it all hoarded up. Whether that's good or bad is up to the purchaser. I personally don't like such a thing, which is why I'd like an open source CFW. So anyone can contribute (including the flashcard companies).


There were DS Firmware updates. And support from companies to update their cards.

As for MT-Card, they're lack of solid doesn't affect you as a user one way or the other. Neither does Gateways really, it doesn't affect your experience with the product at all, unless you want to flog code off it. Fair enough.
I'm sure if Mt had the superior feature set, they'd work on some DRM of their own, really. And clone carts like R4i don't can't they couldn't do their own work in the first place, what the hell would they know about making DRM?

And support for anything can be dropped in an instant, it's the risk you run buying anything these day, from phones to tablets, to mods and carts. It's something I person understands, or should, going in.

Don't think for a tiny second either that a flashcart cart company would take off their money hat and start contributing to an open source alternative to their income lol.

The 3ds scene isn't unique at all apart from the attitude to mod chips etc. And this still hasn't cleared anything up.

It still looks to me like a combination of wishing to save a few bucks, commercialism/consumerism 'Down with corporations' bashing and from some (few) people (not you I might add), complete ignorance.
Not that it matters, if a CFW was gonna happen, it would have last year. Nothings changed and the promise of a few bucks isn't gonna change anyone's mind anytime soon.

Edit: Perhaps I'll offer some advice (not to you necessarily).
You get a little older, see enough crap and realize that the world you live in is flawed and doesn't look like changing anytime soon.
You can either fight a very futile fight, or accept it.
This is the 3ds scene right now, if somebody hasn't accepted it now, maybe they should rethink things a little. If you put the pipe dreams away and take care of yourself and your own needs you'll have a lot more fun and stress a lot less. You might just grab a cart, get some homebrew and enjoy yourself. It's quicker.
I dislike DRM too, but I like Steam. I'm not gonna let me personal and pointless views cripple my own entertainment.
 

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There were DS Firmware updates. And support from companies to update their cards.

As for MT-Card, they're lack of solid doesn't affect you as a user one way or the other. Neither does Gateways really, it doesn't affect your experience with the product at all, unless you want to flog code off it. Fair enough.
I'm sure if Mt had the superior feature set, they'd work on some DRM of their own, really. And clone carts like R4i don't can't they couldn't do their own work in the first place, what the hell would they know about making DRM?

And support for anything can be dropped in an instant, it's the risk you run buying anything these day, from phones to tablets, to mods and carts. It's something I person understands, or should, going in.

Don't think for a tiny second either that a flashcart cart company would take off their money hat and start contributing to an open source alternative to their income lol.

The 3ds scene isn't unique at all apart from the attitude to mod chips etc. And this still hasn't cleared anything up.

It still looks to me like a combination of wishing to save a few bucks, commercialism/consumerism 'Down with corporations' bashing and from some (few) people (not you I might add), complete ignorance.
Not that it matters, if a CFW was gonna happen, it would have last year. Nothings changed and the promise of a few bucks isn't gonna change anyone's mind anytime soon.



Sure. I'm just explaining what's different. The DS scene has a lot more open feel to it. With 3DS it's all locked away and hidden from the average user, unless they want to find the exploits themselves. That's not to say that Gateway isn't appreciated. I'm probably gonna buy one sooner or later. But if you can release parts for free, why not? The 9.2 CFW is obviously already made, as a simple google search would reveal. Yet it's not available. I'm guessing if it was the DS scene, we'd have it already, simply due to the openness. It just seems to me like gateway would get a lot more customers by releasing free stuff and having core and exclusive features on their card. The browser launcher working with non-gateway users is a good start. And probably got a lot of people to buy a gateway card.

But look at the Wii. Lots of cIOS stuff, yet it's all free. I don't see why 3DS can't be the same. There were things you could buy to improve the 'wii experience' like USB Gecko, hard-mods, etc. But the core features of unlocking the device were provided free of charge and open source.

I just think 3DS dev would go a lot faster if the core exploits were opened up, and the 'special features' were locked away. Though I don't think it's all gateway's fault. Personally I think it's more of the people who made the CFW and didn't release it. There's literally no point. Why not? Unless the CFW people were the ones behind gateway, there's no benefit to them.
 
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