A REFINED message to DSTT users

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  1. Vulpes Abnocto
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    Vulpes Abnocto Drinks, Knows Things

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    Those of you who have been paying attention for the past few days
    have seen the DSTT section become a battlefield;
    A result that was not intended by anybody.
    Least of all, me.

    The decree to keep retrogamefan's files off of GBAtemp
    was done out of respect to one of the major contributers to firmware in our community,
    and for his wishes.
    However, when the circumstances surrounding his work are taken into consideration,
    it becomes clear that I've made a mistake.

    We still ask that you not link to retrogamefan's work (again, out of respect)
    and links directly to his site will absolutely be removed, due to the nature of his site,
    but warns that were issued in the past few days over this have been recalculated.

    This thread will be open, so any comments you have about the preceding days should be said here.
    I fully expect a few people to have some less-than-kind things to say about my mistakes.
    Go ahead and say what you want about it, but try and keep the conversation something close to "civil".
     
  2. Bunie

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    I was banned from the site Retro chose to post his fixes on. I was helping someone in the chat set up their R4, and i was repeatidly told to shutup. I took it a little harshly, wondering how the admins could tell me to shutup for being helpfull. i mostly just argued with them, and then i was IP & Account banned.

    I dont feel i did anything wrong, Certainly not wrong enough for a permenent ban.
    Eventualy my IP changed, so i created a 2nd account and retro himself banned me in the same manor for having two accounts.

    I have read alot in this forum, about retro randomly banning people from that site, for several reasons, including just the mention of GBATemp.

    I, and we, need these fixes here. if they arent placed here, and i was forced to use the latest OFFICIAL firmware, i would MAYBE be able to play Mario Kart.

    Retro illogicaly gets touchy when his updates are found here. if they are in 1:1 form of how they are found on the other site, then there is no harm done.

    And you have decided to take away the updates for me. Im not starting this "Battle" for fun. I am unable to get the updates without asking my friends to DL it and up it for me. Retro is a hatefull human being, And you take orders from him. I will do no such thing, nor should anyone else. its breaking no legal rules, nor would i say it is breaking any GBATemp rules. it is breaking Your own personal illogical rule.

    these fixes are so we can STEAL games.
    Since when did standards kick in? Why not just do away with firmware completely, Nintendo is losing some money over it. Employee's are being paid less due to all this. And you want to have a heart for retro?

    "was done out of respect to one of the major contributers to firmware in our community". He has left our community. He has no respect Left for GBATemp.
     
  3. DarkShinigami

    DarkShinigami #1 strongest Shinigami BANKAI

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    SO IT WAS YOU?

    were you the one who caused retro to flip out and stop making updates? cause he accused you of stealing?
     
  4. Bunie

    Bunie #1 Princess

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    No? Lol i never said that. I would never steal credit where credit is due. and even to this day, with my hatred for Retro, i still thank him for the updates. [​IMG]
     
  5. bitonio6

    bitonio6 GBAtemp Advanced Maniac

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    We invite here all hackers who want to work on release for DSTT... (also use for YSMenu, etc...)

    If someone here, know guys able to doing that, bring them here! [​IMG]

    i hope, one day, we receive officialy from ndstt.com, all the tools, to do release easier

    [​IMG]
     
  6. Vulpes Abnocto
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    Vulpes Abnocto Drinks, Knows Things

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    Considering the fact that he made that announcement shortly after I told him that I was editing this sticky, I'd say what has made him decide the stop updating is the fact that we won't be actively keeping his updates off of GBAtemp anymore.
     
  7. Bunie

    Bunie #1 Princess

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    Perhaps i am missunderstanding. Uploading his firmware to an external site (Such as MediaFire) Is no longer forbidden?
     
  8. GreatCrippler

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    Maybe too much turkey today. This is two posts in a row that just seem to suffer from poorly formed sentences.
     
  9. Vulpes Abnocto
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    Bunie; It seems you understand perfectly.

    There is no longer a ban on uploading the update to mediafire or some similar site, and linking to it here.
    We ask that you don't out of respect for retrogamefan, but it's beyond our scope to police his files.

    GreatCrippler: I believe Bitonio's first language is not English.
    We generally bear with him and do our best to understand, because he does his best to help the community.
     
  10. Bunie

    Bunie #1 Princess

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    Huzzah!
    [​IMG]
    THE DSTT SHALL ROAM FREE ONCE AGAIN!
    [​IMG]


    EDIT: Someone should make a movie about this war, srsly.
     
  11. Vulpes Abnocto
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    Vulpes Abnocto Drinks, Knows Things

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    Well you know, if he no longer makes updates, it hardly matters.


    And before anybody asks, I've asked for drwhojan's ban to be revoked.
     
  12. bitonio6

    bitonio6 GBAtemp Advanced Maniac

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    And when a DSTT clone team will take his work,
    can we give the new link? [​IMG]

    A friend of mine, gave me this link -> http://www.tti-advance.com/

    You can check the content of their kernel [​IMG]


    P.S my english is not perfect, and i will very happy if someone can rewrite my sentences in good english
    like that, i will improve my knowledge in this language
     
  13. Bunie

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    bitonio6 GBAtemp Advanced Maniac

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    If people can act with the same FORCE ( like they do against release decision ) by sending an email to ndstt.com... [​IMG] [​IMG] [​IMG]
     
  15. Vulpes Abnocto
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    Vulpes Abnocto Drinks, Knows Things

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    All we can do is take his words at face value.
    At this point he says he has quit.
    Whether that will be true next week is all up to him.
     
  16. Etalon

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    I think the situation got so problematic that it would be better to receive no updated at all than to live with that situation.

    There are only ~12 really big games we're waiting for right now, if RetroGameFan doesn't want to fix them, the community will find a solution.

    And I'm saing this as someone who really likes Retro. I had never trouble with thim. I love his updates. But the situation sort of escalated.
     
  17. bitonio6

    bitonio6 GBAtemp Advanced Maniac

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    We still can play with game patch !!!
     
  18. Bunie

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    Yep! But patches are rare now,
    i think almost EVERY other flashcart out there has firmware that will support these games, so patches are rare. [​IMG]
     
  19. gamefan5

    gamefan5 Kid Icarus Uprising connoiseur

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    Oh wow, It's too bad he quit.
     
  20. Donato_Dobango

    Donato_Dobango GBAtemp Advanced Fan

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    It's easy to say there are only 12 games left in the DS's cycle that are worth playing by ignoring the niche games and games you might right off as shovelware that others might want to play.

    It's not a big release by any means, but I'd like to be able to play the horrible House game if it gets released.

    But this whole Retro thing has been horrible and stupid and dragged the IQs of all involved down involuntarily. I'm sure by tomorrow, when his warez site threatens to not pay him, retro will announce the next dat update.
     
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