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Nice one. :lol:
Not being able to answer basic questions and being unable to substantiate why beyond the usual “pls no buly” is not a victory. If you’re so afraid of your side’s arguments being publicly scrutinised then perhaps they’re just bad arguments. We’ll never know, because you refused to present any.
 

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I don't think I saw the same film as you did.
Marty McFly threatened his own existence by interfering in the meeting between his parents. The whole movie is about him and his siblings gradually vanishing from reality until he sets things straight. In a way, his recklessness almost “aborted” him from time.
 
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You didn't include the full text of what you quoted, which makes your quote and comment dishonest and misleading. I put in bold the main reasons. You're also taking it out of context.
@JonhathonBaxster you've got it wrong, the whole post. I was criticizing your sourcing for your own sake. Your links I made the post in response to were all blog post opinion pieces - the actual sources were below the footnotes on those articles.


You tried to invalidate the entire study because of a simple opinion.
No, I was criticizing your sourcing, not the actual source. I've already sourced the Guttmacher surveys in this thread myself, along with other users.


However, I consider the "women base their decisions largely on their ability to maintain economic stability and to care for the children they already have" as a convenience, which I've already stated in my previous posts what qualifies as a convenience.
I know. That's why I specifically addressed it (from my previous response):

Now, that doesn't mean you can't source the guttmacher surveys and draw your own conclusions. You may disagree with Guttmacher's assessment here. But when your "source" is drawing a different conclusion than you from the same data, it seriously weakens the entire point of you sourcing someone.
...the entire point of you sourcing someone.

^^I'm reiterating to make myself clear, not to bash you.

Point being, if you want to use a source to back up an argument, googling and throwing in the first links you see is likely going to poison the well of information. You've got to check the sources from the blogs if you want an actually reliable source. If you're sourcing something that was said or an opinion from the blog post, that's fine. The links you posted didn't help your post - they held it back.

If you actually wanted to discuss why you would draw different conclusions from Guttmacher Institute's findings, then that third link would be completely relevant for you to post here and we can see what you mean.

If you want us to look at numbers, it'd best serve you to post the source of those numbers. Again, I've sourced the Guttmacher surveys myself.

I'm not commenting on your take at all right now, just your sourcing.

Like I said previously, easy to lump opinions together in a thread this big. You were mistaken in your interpretation of my post, though.
 
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Something being a reasonable possibility is not consent for that thing.

Consent becomes complicit when you play games that reward different prizes.

No it doesn't.

Yes it does.

They are separate bodies.

After you sever the connection and separate them.

The woman has a right over her own body, similar to how you have a right over yours and your organs.

Is that your ideology or is this what your laws say?

Even winning tickets can be left unclaimed. By your own analogy, pregnancies should be freely refused.

You still won though. The analogy was to demonstrate consent. If you want to argue why it is rational to discard a winning lottery ticket, go ahead.
 

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isn't CNN also bad? It has a massive left wing bias, and I still remember that time they misrepresented riots as most peaceful.
For the media outlets, I like to sort them with the Ground News app.

There are sites and other apps that do something similar, but the idea is just to organize the media's takes so you can get view on the big picture.

It's my go-to quick look at news when I'm on the can.
 

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Which movie exactly are you talking about? Are you sure you've seen it?

He's talking about the plot to a movie called, "Back to the Future". It's pretty good. It's about a boy who almost aborts himself by traveling in time. You should check it out.
 
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Marty McFly almost got his pregnant mom's baby (himself) aborted. He went back in time during her pregnancy. Didn't you see the movie?
I don’t think she was already pregnant, but she was certainly about to be. The whole premise of the movie is Marty ensuring his own conception and subsequent existence.
 

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I don’t think she was already pregnant, but she was certainly about to be.
No, she wasn't. He was 17 in 1985, so he was born in 1968. He traveled in the delorian to 1955.

He is the youngest of the three children.

David Tiberius "Dave" McFly was born 1963, Linda McFly was born 1966

Unless by "about to be" you mean 8 years later.
 

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No, she wasn't. He was 17 in 1985, so he was born in 1968. He traveled in the delorian to 1955.

He is the youngest of the three children.

But in the movie he was already born. So she was already pregnant and had birth but then almost didn't.

I think I am beginning to understand how @smf thinks.
 

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No, she wasn't. He was 17 in 1985, so he was born in 1968. He traveled in the delorian to 1955.

He is the youngest of the three children.
I thought he was, you’re right. The disappearing business was more a matter of preventing his parents from falling in love, which in turn would’ve prevented his birth later down the line. He nearly aborted himself from the timeline by interfering in their initial meeting.
 

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