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January 6th was mostly white people, the BLM protests were mostly black people.

Is it any surprise that they would minimize what the white people did while making out the black people were worse?



You're a cruel excuse for a human being. Nobody deserves to be made fun of, especially someone who is suffering. It's disturbing that someone would even think it was acceptable behavior. One has to wonder how messed up you are to get pleasure from making fun of them.


I think they meant people are just too sensitive sometimes. Everyone has the right to feel how they want to feel though and don’t deserve to be put down, harassed, belittled, bullied. But there’s much worse things going on in the world in comparison.

as the events were unfolding the victims involved didn’t know what was gonna happen and that is scary. It def could have turned out much worse than it was.
 
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I think they meant people are just too sensitive sometimes.

He clearly wasn't saying that, but who is arrogant enough to decide on how sensitive people should be? I'm not, are you ?

We appear to be suffering the opposite problem, of people not being sensitive enough.
 
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Ah, let me break that down for you then, comrade!

The "protest" in DC was a terrorist action aimed at overruling the will of the people at large, and murder did occur amongst those "hundreds of thousands" (good joke, by the by) when they actively assaulted the country's central point of legislation. Those that weren't charged do not condemn the actions, but handwave them. They were also rallied by a twice impeached traitor to his office to do this, which has grand and frightening implications and shows the ugly underbelly of a whole party (since this was at a partisan political rally).

Trump never instructed anyone to riot. That's more horseshit that was fabricated by the Left. As a matter of fact when the few hundred people broke off from the peaceful protesting and started to riot Trump condemned their actions and told everyone to go home. However, I see you're just a normal leftist liar going around making shit up to hurt others.

As you see fit to lie and insult me you've been added to my ignore list.
 
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Trump never instructed anyone to riot. That's more horseshit that was fabricated by the Left. As a matter of fact when the few hundred people broke off from the peaceful protesting and started to riot Trump condemned their actions and told everyone to go home. However, I see you're just a normal leftist liar going around making shit up to hurt others.

As you see fit to lie and insult me you've been added to my ignore list.

Wow, another right wing snowflake down. I'm honestly astonished, I thought I was being pretty benign compared to some other folk, but I'm guessing that ignore list is larger than I know.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Timeline_of_the_2021_United_States_Capitol_attack

The timeline doesn't match up the the idea that Trump tried to encourage the mob to disperse, nor did he condemn anybody. His tweets are logged and there to view for anybody curious. I honestly feel a little bad for Johnny, he seems to be genuinely ignorant by his own choice.
 

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The Capital routinely has rowdy demonstrations for all of modern history, Hundreds of thousands of people announced they were showing up. If Capital security was not prepared for a few hundred to have a little "Mostly peaceful spaghetti potluck" they should be fired, hard to blame the rioters for this level of incompetence.

The protesters were allowed in and having cordial conversations with the police, Some of that "Community policing to diffuse the situation" everyone is so fond of unless it's used when it's white conservatives.

No one other than liberal partisans give a shit or buy this baloney, anyone breaking triple digits in the IQ department see this for the politicized nonsense it is.

The hypocrisy is all over the place.


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So... Sorry if I'm insensitive, but when are they going to prosecute Donald Trump?
All this is like piling blame on the 9/11 plane hijackers for their action and letting Osama off the hook because he 's popular with people in power.
 
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So... Sorry if I'm insensitive, but when are they going to prosecute Donald Trump?
All this is like piling blame on the 9/11 plane hijackers for their action and letting Osama off the hook because he 's popular with people in power.
Never, because that will definitely lead to a civil war.
 
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Never, because that will definitely lead to a civil war.

That would be quite a short lived war, particularly now that he is out of office and is losing people in his circle to criminal charges left and right. Why would anybody wage a war over a washed up steak salesman with maybe another 4 years of life left in 'em?

Also, you're doing great, pumpkin! Keep up those one liners, very easy to drown those out~
 

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Never, because that will definitely lead to a civil war.
:rofl2::rofl2::rofl2:

Where's your civil war now that those terrorists (Trump's most loyal soldiers) face jail time?
Where's your civil war when Biden took office as the next president?
Where's your civil war when Trump's top lawyers get barred from their practice?
Where's your civil war when that whole 'the vote is a lie' thing turned out to be an absolute turd?


Your emperor has no clothes, dude. There 's a large chunk of sore losses, I won't deny that. But Trump can be happy if they remain calm. It's only a matter of time before it dawn's on them they've been conned for their gullibility. They wanted to hang Pence on a whim... My bet is they'll be first in line to rip Trump to shreds.
But a civil war? With those dumb fucks fighting for Trump? Against American values and the US army? Not a fucking chance in hell.
 
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:rofl2::rofl2::rofl2:

Where's your civil war now that those terrorists (Trump's most loyal soldiers) face jail time?
Where's your civil war when Biden took office as the next president?
Where's your civil war when Trump's top lawyers get barred from their practice?
Where's your civil war when that whole 'the vote is a lie' thing turned out to be an absolute turd?


Your emperor has no clothes, dude. There 's a large chunk of sore losses, I won't deny that. But Trump can be happy if they remain calm. It's only a matter of time before it dawn's on them they've been conned for their gullibility. They wanted to hang Pence on a whim... My bet is they'll be first in line to rip Trump to shreds.
But a civil war? With those dumb fucks fighting for Trump? Against American values and the US army? Not a fucking chance in hell.
Laugh now, but the checks and balances of the law in the US is hanging by thread now, only one more push of something drastic happening before all hell breaks loose.
 
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Trumps never going to be convicted of anything. It never happens, One he didn't do anything illegal and it brings too much instability to the system. The most you ever see is things like Nixon or Bill Clinton, minor formalities pardoned or completely paper based.

The U.S. having a traditional civil war is unlikely, we already are having a civil cold war. California has already banned travel to nearly half the country. You see countless states blue and red ignoring federal laws or passing laws at a state level saying "we aren't going along with that".

The likely outcome is varying degree's of dissolution. Whether it's a formal dissolution of the U.S breaking off in to smaller territories or states flexing their power and generally ignoring the federal government it's already happening.

The degree that it continues is how much civil unrest and partisan over reach takes place.
 
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Ah, let me break that down for you then, comrade!

The "protest" in DC was a terrorist action aimed at overruling the will of the people at large, and murder did occur amongst those "hundreds of thousands" (good joke, by the by) when they actively assaulted the country's central point of legislation. Those that weren't charged do not condemn the actions, but handwave them. They were also rallied by a twice impeached traitor to his office to do this, which has grand and frightening implications and shows the ugly underbelly of a whole party (since this was at a partisan political rally).

BLM and similar groups were protesters engaged with violence and returned the violence in kind. The vast majority of their protests were peaceful, and they largely denounce senseless destruction of property and assault, and there wasn't any partisan politics involved. The number of arrests were far greater than at the White House, the amount of brutality against protesters was greater than at the White House, and the number of idiots shitposting about how everything was just fine and not worth investigating in the aftermath is far greater, too.

Seriously, kid, go serve your country before you mock those that actually have. Maybe some fresh air in the service will help get the scent of your bs off of ya.
no it wasn't it was just a bunch of ghey larpers peppered with agent provocateurs and a total cringe fest and everyone there was setup by BOTH sides of the system
BOHT sides wanted them there, BOTH sides allowed this
useful idots who were set up

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The Capital routinely has rowdy demonstrations for all of modern history, Hundreds of thousands of people announced they were showing up. If Capital security was not prepared for a few hundred to have a little "Mostly peaceful spaghetti potluck" they should be fired, hard to blame the rioters for this level of incompetence.

The protesters were allowed in and having cordial conversations with the police, Some of that "Community policing to diffuse the situation" everyone is so fond of unless it's used when it's white conservatives.

No one other than liberal partisans give a shit or buy this baloney, anyone breaking triple digits in the IQ department see this for the politicized nonsense it is.

The hypocrisy is all over the place.


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Heard a few snippets of the hearings, the level of fiction-writing is pretty funny and the credibility of some of the witnesses is at best questionable. Still, I'm glad that this will result in some book deals.

As a matter of public record I'll add that 5 people died during the riot - 3 deaths were ruled to be of natural causes (2x cardiovascular disease and 1x stroke), one death was accidental (amphetamine overdose) and one was a homicide (by gunshot). The only fatality caused directly by the riot was Ashli Babbit who was shot by the security detail.

https://www.klkntv.com/officers-death-after-insurrection-was-ruled-natural-causes/

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news...e-death-released-4-5-not-sicknick/7128040002/
 

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Heard a few snippets of the hearings, the level of fiction-writing is pretty funny and the credibility of some of the witnesses is at best questionable. Still, I'm glad that this will result in some book deals.
I haven't seen any testimony that wasn't corroborated by physical evidence, like video footage. What are you talking about?
 

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I haven't seen any testimony that wasn't corroborated by physical evidence, like video footage. What are you talking about?
One of the officers requested a minute of silence in memory of Officer Sicknick who, he claimed, was murdered during the riot. This is inconsistent with the medical examiner's report which lists his cause of death as a double stroke due to natural causes. His injuries did not cause his death or hasten it. I quote:
Sicknick's official cause of death was "acute brainstem and cerebellar infarcts due to acute basilar artery thrombosis," according to the medical examiner's office.

The officer's manner of death — the circumstances surrounding his passing — was determined to be "natural," the office said. That term is used when a death is caused solely by a disease and is not hastened by an injury.
https://www.cnbc.com/2021/04/19/bri...fter-capitol-riot-medical-examiner-rules.html

Nobody corrected the officer at the stand, the whole room went along with it, even though it's untrue. I'm all for a minute of silence for officers who die in the line of duty, but not when it's done on the basis of a lie to create a spectacle. According to the data available Sicknick wasn't "murdered".
 

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Laugh now, but the checks and balances of the law in the US is hanging by thread now, only one more push of something drastic happening before all hell breaks loose.

Wow, that is very edgelord of you. Are you so hungry for blood that you don't care if it comes from your fellow Americans? This isn't even just blind ignorance, it is actual zealotry, and that kind of thing is responsible for all manner of tragedies. You ARE aware that there are a much higher number of Democrats than Republicans in the USA, right? Are you okay with overturning the will of the masses for your own warped and disgusting ideology?


Heard a few snippets of the hearings, the level of fiction-writing is pretty funny and the credibility of some of the witnesses is at best questionable. Still, I'm glad that this will result in some book deals.

Peculiarities about how long it took for the officer's autopsy to get ruled on aside, Sicknick was assaulted and died the next day. It was determined to be in the line of duty, and the coroner did also say of his death "all that transpired played a role in his condition." It also doesn't change the fact that this was a violent raid on the center of US legislation by an unruly minority...

Trumps never going to be convicted of anything. It never happens, One he didn't do anything illegal and it brings too much instability to the system. The most you ever see is things like Nixon or Bill Clinton, minor formalities pardoned or completely paper based.

The U.S. having a traditional civil war is unlikely, we already are having a civil cold war. California has already banned travel to nearly half the country. You see countless states blue and red ignoring federal laws or passing laws at a state level saying "we aren't going along with that".

The likely outcome is varying degree's of dissolution. Whether it's a formal dissolution of the U.S breaking off in to smaller territories or states flexing their power and generally ignoring the federal government it's already happening.

The degree that it continues is how much civil unrest and partisan over reach takes place.

And Foxi says the police wrote fan fiction. I'm actually in the process of moving from California to Tennessee, haven't had a lick of trouble switching between the states, so I'm really unsure what the fluff that is about. I won't deny that the Republican party has been performing something of a soft coup in the sense that they've manipulated the tools of the democracy to provide extremely unpopular methods of rigging the system in their favor, but that has been the case for a while. Problem is... their numbers are shrinking, and events like this, where they can hold a "blue lives matter" sign in one hand, and a taser to shock a police officer in the other, actually does hurt their numbers with younger audiences. At this point, most republicans are aging, both in and out of the chambers, and it looks like it may only be a matter of time before it views that final sunrise~
 
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One of the officers requested a minute of silence in memory of Officer Sicknick who, he claimed, was murdered during the riot. This is inconsistent with the medical examiner's report which lists his cause of death as a double stroke due to natural causes. His injuries did not cause his death or hasten it. I quote:

https://www.cnbc.com/2021/04/19/bri...fter-capitol-riot-medical-examiner-rules.html

Nobody corrected the officer at the stand, the whole room went along with it, even though it's untrue. I'm all for a minute of silence for officers who die in the line of duty, but not when it's done on the basis of a lie to create a spectacle. According to the data available Sicknick wasn't "murdered".
It's more than plausible, if not more than likely, that the stress and trauma of the riots led to his death, and he died in the line of duty regardless. The medical report doesn't contradict this, and the medical examiner says it all "played a role" in his death.

Given the misreporting that occurred about being hit with a fire extinguisher, you also can't fault someone even if they got it egregiously wrong.
 

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Peculiarities about how long it took for the officer's autopsy to get ruled on aside, Sicknick was assaulted and died the next day. It was determined to be in the line of duty, and the coroner did also say of his death "all that transpired played a role in his condition." It also doesn't change the fact that this was a violent raid on the center of US legislation by an unruly minority...
The peculiarities are all that matters in a case like this. Sicknick was definitely assaulted, that much we know, but if the examiner is correct then he was not murdered. The testimony is doubly suspect considering some of the officers displayed strong anti-trump (to put it mildly) sentiment on Twitter long before the riot, but I presume they've all disabled their social media now since I can't find the relevant accounts - I'd have to look through archived copies to provide a snippet or two. All it seemed to me was a very tearful play that relied on emotions as opposed to hard facts, but admittedly I didn't watch the entire hearing just yet since it's intensely boring.
It's more than plausible, if not more than likely, that the stress and trauma of the riots led to his death, and he died in the line of duty regardless. The medical report doesn't contradict this, and the medical examiner says it all "played a role" in his death.

Given the misreporting that occurred about being hit with a fire extinguisher, you also can't fault someone even if they got it egregiously wrong.
"Natural causes" means that whatever injuries are present on the body at the time of the examination did not lead to or accelerate the death. In other words, it's not a homicide. Stress might've had some impact, but there's no way to measure that accurately. As it stands, the injuries sustained did not hasten Sicknick's death, but *the events* possibly could've. If his health was so poor that he succumbed to stroke due to stress, especially stress which is inherently tied to being a law enforcement officer, he should've been retired at this point. I feel for his family, I really do, but it appears that his poor health was the primary cause of his death.
 

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