Canadian Weed Legalization

The Catboy · Sep 22, 2018

Weed should have never been illegal to begin with and shouldn't be illegal now. It was only made and kept illegal purely based on racist reasons and there's never been a legitimate reason to keep it illegal.
I actually do smoke weed because I have an immune system disorder where my immune system attacks my nerves. There's only a few treatments for it and honestly they all suck, minus weed. Weed is the only drug I can take that treats the pain without being an addictive opioid and it's also the only method of treatment that isn't an immunity suppressant.

the_randomizer · Sep 22, 2018

I personally don't care for it or even like it, but good for those who do I guess?

KingVamp · Sep 22, 2018

Attacker3 said:
We're referring to two different things. You're saying that tobacco smoke is more toxic, which I agree, but it's not going to affect the climate at all or anything. Just don't go near someone who's smoking if you don't want to deal with that.

It surely doesn't help the climate. I'm just saying, why risk it when their so much other drugs? Not just tobacco, but any new drug that could negatively effect the environment directly.

As for avoidance, the problem is that some of them will go near us, not caring where they are smoking. Granted, that problem seem to have been reduced.

Hanafuda said:
I have no objection to legal marijuana whatsoever. What concerns me is, are people going to be allowed to live on, or with the aid of, public assistance and take that money and buy weed with it, go home and sack out on the couch with a bong and some Frito's while someone else works a job to support them doing that?? Yes, I think that will happen, because it already happens. It'll just be even easier and more permissible.

So, what are you saying? Anyone with public assistance should be banned from drugs?

Hanafuda · Sep 22, 2018

KingVamp said:
So, what are you saying? Anyone with public assistance should be banned from drugs?

No, the other way around. Anyone on drugs should be banned from receiving public assistance. You can't 'ban' drugs, it doesn't work.

Plstic · Sep 22, 2018

Hanafuda said:
I have no objection to legal marijuana whatsoever. What concerns me is, are people going to be allowed to live on, or with the aid of, public assistance and take that money and buy weed with it, go home and sack out on the couch with a bong and some Frito's while someone else works a job to support them doing that?? Yes, I think that will happen, because it already happens. It'll just be even easier and more permissible.

That already happens even though it's illegal lmao. People smoke pot all the time in low income housing.

Viri · Sep 22, 2018

I don't care if it's legal. But, I don't think people should be allowed to smoke out in public, same with drinking. You should only be able to smoke in certain places like a bar, and your own house.

Also, they're breaking a few UN treaties to legalize it. I don't like the idea of a country breaking a treaty. They should have withdrawn from it properly, instead of breaking it.

slaphappygamer · Sep 22, 2018

Attacker3 said:
What's a weed spot? >:'D

A bit like a duty-free airport, but for weed.
Also weed is smoked in all kinds of housing.

Xzi · Sep 22, 2018

Hanafuda said:
No, the other way around. Anyone on drugs should be banned from receiving public assistance.

Why? They don't take away public assistance for using prescription drugs, which are often way more debilitating than marijuana.

KingVamp · Sep 22, 2018

Hanafuda said:
No, the other way around. Anyone on drugs should be banned from receiving public assistance. You can't 'ban' drugs, it doesn't work.

Either way, I'm not sure how I feel about welfare being drug tested. Maybe for addicts and taking them to rehab, but for everyone that is using drugs?

Plstic said:
That already happens even though it's illegal lmao. People smoke pot all the time in low income housing.

I didn't even know this was a thing. Apparently, from what you say, banning people from aid because of drugs isn't working either and from a quick glance, seems like a lot of money to do these drug tests.

Plstic · Sep 22, 2018

KingVamp said:
Either way, I'm not sure how I feel about welfare being drug tested. Maybe for addicts and taking them to rehab, but for everyone that is using drugs?

I didn't even know this was a thing. Apparently, from what you say, banning people from aid because of drugs isn't working either and from a quick glance, seems like a lot of money to do these drug tests.

Yeah, doing all those drug tests will never work. It would cost way too much money. They should just legalize pot and take away the culture of being some big drug dealer.

cearp · Sep 22, 2018

Hanafuda said:
I have no objection to legal marijuana whatsoever. What concerns me is, are people going to be allowed to live on, or with the aid of, public assistance and take that money and buy weed with it, go home and sack out on the couch with a bong and some Frito's while someone else works a job to support them doing that?? Yes, I think that will happen, because it already happens. It'll just be even easier and more permissible.

Poor people already do that with food and alcohol.
One more drug probably won't make much difference.
As long as public assistance still makes you do stuff, like prove you have applied for jobs, or prove you are still sick and disabled, it's fine.

AngryCinnabon · Sep 25, 2018

It's a big mistake to make that stuff go legally recreational, medical is fine but letting random people legally smoke it is a very bad idea.

Attacker3 · Sep 25, 2018

ChaoticCinnabon said:
It's a big mistake to make that stuff go legally recreational, medical is fine but letting random people legally smoke it is a very bad idea.

Can you elaborate?

AngryCinnabon · Sep 25, 2018

Attacker3 said:
Can you elaborate?

If it's intended to curb illegal usage of weed, it will not work, the dosage you'd get in legal shops would likely be very different than what they sell on the streets. Weeds bad for you and the people around you as well, so making it mainstream makes 2nd hand smoking more common, and nobody should have to deal with those fumes literally everywhere.

This is all my opinion, and I say it as such.

cearp · Sep 25, 2018

ChaoticCinnabon said:
If it's intended to curb illegal usage of weed, it will not work, the dosage you'd get in legal shops would likely be very different than what they sell on the streets. Weeds bad for you and the people around you as well, so making it mainstream makes 2nd hand smoking more common, and nobody should have to deal with those fumes literally everywhere.

This is all my opinion, and I say it as such.

Oreos are bad for me too but they taste good.
So sometimes I eat them.
Same thing here maybe.
Better than alcohol. It can be legal but still illegal to drink in public etc, laws are very new with this stuff so they will probably change.

Xzi · Sep 25, 2018

ChaoticCinnabon said:
If it's intended to curb illegal usage of weed, it will not work, the dosage you'd get in legal shops would likely be very different than what they sell on the streets.

Hmm? I'm not sure what the laws in Canada are like, but here in Colorado you can buy up to an ounce of THC products per day, so basically as much as anyone would need. Teen use and illegal use has declined here since legalizing as well.

ChaoticCinnabon said:
Weeds bad for you and the people around you as well, so making it mainstream makes 2nd hand smoking more common, and nobody should have to deal with those fumes literally everywhere.

From experience selling it, most people don't smoke. You've got THC edibles, topicals, tinctures, sprays, concentrates, and vape pens in both re-usable and disposable forms. Regardless, even the second-hand smoke is essentially harmless when comparing to cigarettes. Cannabinoids have actually been shown to attack cancer cells, almost the exact opposite of cigarette ingredients which create cancer. You can also get non-psychoactive cannabinoids like CBD. It's a neuro-protector that also has anti-inflammatory and calming effects but won't get you high.

Attacker3 · Sep 25, 2018

Xzi said:
Teen use and illegal use has declined here since legalizing as well.

I doubt it to be honest. It might have stayed the same but not have gone down, it's more likely that the police don't really care as much anymore, and aren't beating down those god damn hippies for smoking a little bit of Mary Jane. But yeah, a lot of people don't smoke and weed is a great thing for everyone, considering the amount of medicinal and industrial uses for it (yeah, a lot of products made nowadays would be made cheaper with hemp)

aykay55 · Sep 25, 2018

I don't agree with what you say about "It's their body, they can do what they want" because yes it's their body but you, the government, are responsible to make sure your citizens are safe. That means protecting them from harm, both intentional and accidental. And it is not just their body, when they're high/low/drunk/fuckingInsane they can harm themselves and others, as well as other's property.

Attacker3 · Sep 25, 2018

aykay55 said:
I don't agree with what you say about "It's their body, they can do what they want" because yes it's their body but you, the government, are responsible to make sure your citizens are safe. That means protecting them from harm, both intentional and accidental. And it is not just their body, when they're high/low/drunk/fuckingInsane they can harm themselves and others, as well as other's property.

Ah yes, which works out well, looking back at history, giving the government power over people. Man, remember the slave trade? Jeez that was pretty cool you know, oh and the Holocaust! Now THAT was a doozey!

Listen pal, if you don't like freedom from oppression, that's fine, but the government has no place in my body, and will never have a place in it. I grew my body myself, I am a big boy now because it took energy provided by my mommy, which allowed me to create this. Let me ask you something, if you make a flute out of wood, does anyone else have the right to take it away or tell you what you can or cannot play? If you answered yes, that's fine, and you can have that opinion. If you say "It depends on who takes it or who tells me" then you are being a massive hypocrite. If the government is just a bunch of people who decide the direction a country goes, then what makes them any different than a person on the street? If you claim that they have the moral right to tell you what to do with your flute, then you are saying the government is better and higher than the average man, and that's what a lot of people call authoritarianism or tyranny.

One person cannot have more rights than another, and that applies to the government and corporations too, and if you haven't noticed, they both have more rights than the average man. Absolutely disgusting.

Xzi · Sep 25, 2018

aykay55 said:
I don't agree with what you say about "It's their body, they can do what they want" because yes it's their body but you, the government, are responsible to make sure your citizens are safe. That means protecting them from harm, both intentional and accidental. And it is not just their body, when they're high/low/drunk/fuckingInsane they can harm themselves and others, as well as other's property.

Violent tendencies are amplified by certain drugs (alcohol often included), but weed isn't one of them. It's mostly just a social or solitary "chill" drug. People using cocaine, crack, meth, bath salts and the like are the ones you sometimes have to worry about being attacked by.

The one thing you might attack while using THC is a bag of Doritos.

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