Games You SHOULDN'T Buy #3 - Pokémon X and Y

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Preach on my brutha.
X/Y was such a let down the game was too simple and lacks post end-game content.

If it wasn't for Pokemon Amie it'd be my least favorite pokemon game next to Gen 1.
 

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Let's see here, a lot of this is personal opinion rooted is possible bait. Pokemon X and Y knew exactly who to cater to: Hardcore players and young children. I'm not sure what role you play in the series, but I know you're not the latter.

Now, the steps backward are a bit hit or miss in my book. The game is *not* too easy. In every game, you can go through the elite four the first time with just your starter rather easy with a few full restores and a good moveset. Often that required a specific starter (Greninja is perfect for this role), but whatever. My point is, the games have not been *hard* since I was a kid, but have always provided a decent challenge. The Elite Four in this game weren't jokes, and I had a bit of trouble even with the EXP Share on. I just never grinded. Complaining about the difficulty and overlevelling is akin to crying in the rain.

The story was pretty nonsensical, I'll give you that, but so is stopping a world-wide (may I mention violent) criminal ring with nothing but pokemon battles as, canonically, a TEN YEAR OLD. So is doing it a second time and forcing a very wealthy man to give up being a mob boss and retire Team Rocket. So is two teams battling over expanding the land, or sea when rudimentary common sense says we need both. So is... I'll just stop there. Pokemon stories have never made sense, and they never will.

The lack of end-game content is about the only legitimate complaint I see here, but they made it quick and easy to access so us older players didn't have to wait to get a nostalgia trip. Mewtwo was put there for us. Quick and easy competitive battling was the for us. The remixed and re-tuned versions of distictly memorable songs was there for us. It could have had more content, and if the map was anything to go by, it might have.

The Safari Zone is also incredibly optional. If you want trade fodder, you can find pokemon with HAs in horde battles (the far superior way to EV train BTW) and then you can wonder trade until you get a bred pokemon with an ability you want. I WTed all my breeding rejects with HAs and I got several rejects with similar stories back.

Lastly, that last part concerning the music, that's a personal shtick. It's got beautiful music of the quality that I expect from a pokemon game.

X and Y have a very specific audience, much more so than previous gens. If you're a long term player and you pass this gen up, you'll be doing yourself a disservice. This game is good, and like every other pokemon game before it, well worth the money you'll spend on it. I don't believe it deserves a spot in GYSnB due to the complaints being so nitpicky. Someone even pointed out how this write up could become "Games You Shouldn't Buy because I didn't like them", and I can already see it happening.

This is negative points against your very clean record Ryu. If you were going to even comment on the rushed aspect, you should have mention frame drops in Horde battles. Or the issues we had at the beginning with internet connectivity. Instead you gave very opinionated points that didn't address why the game was bad enough to recommend a pass.

EDIT: I see you did mention the frame drops. Forget I said anything.

EDIT 2: I'll also give you the pacing thing, but I enjoyed that. Grinding the gyms was actually a pain when I was interested in the region. Ironically, R/S/E also had a few dry spells, but I to enjoyed that. Have you thought that perhaps you've merely grown out of the series?
 

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The only point discussing here is "This game, I was spamming the same moves on my Greninja [insert starter here] non-stop and stopped the Champion in her tracks within minutes, without using items." If that, every pokemon game should be here :lol:
 

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Most of picture in the first post die, seem like god sent you a message.
Too bad this topic created too late, over 12 million units already sold by now.
 

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Hey, I really appreciate your input. :)

And a lot of you guys seem to be under the impression that I was trolling. That's really not the case here. Usually, I can play a Pokémon title for a few weeks to enjoy the content. I was the Champion the very DAY the game got released, for Christ's sake, and caught all the legendaries and did all the post game content the game provided the day after. :P I didn't do anything different, I just let the game take its natural course. :) Which is a bit saddening because I had such high hopes for the game.

As far as the music concern that you mentioned, it just didn't stick with me for some reason. It's great that it was orchestrated, but I just couldn't attach to it like in previous generations. Which is strange as I identify with the music for a lot of the franchise games.

EDIT: Oh, fuck, you edited at the end. Some of this won't be relevant. ;P
 

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I think X/Y are the most important Pokemon games since Diamond/Pearl and the reason why that's the case is that they've put legitimate effort into them. It's running on a new engine, all of the Pokemon have great 3D models, the world is in full 3D without losing the Pokemon charm and despite the transition to a new platform and all the work that comes with it they still added new features, new Pokemon and a brand-new continent. Sure, the games are a bit short, but I can understand why - the workload was directed at making the game look fresh on the 3DS. I think it's a great start for 3DS Pokemon games and I certainly enjoyed it, and that's saying a lot since the last Pokemon game I actually played from start to finish was... Pokemon Yellow (although I have tried most of them).
 

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I just can't wait for them to release an adult version, where you can actually use your pokemon to beat the crap out of the trainer who are a pain in the a55 or team rocket/flare or whatever they call their selves. This will never happen, but who knows probably a hack one day, but it will require alot of time and money. I bought pokemon X for my lil bro and he loves it and he played the previous series and he said this is the best. I got both games for free as I am playing on GateWay I do feel that the game is easy and leveling up and defeating gym leaders is not even time consuming. I just wish Gamefreak would implement a difficulty.

This is why Rom hacks are better than the retail versions. We just have to wait for editing tools to be made.
 

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hmm...i can't agree that this is a game people shouldn't buy >_<"

pokemon x/y uses so much of what the 3DS hardware is capable of.

for me, if gives a clear feeling of being connected.

* while playing online *

trading, battling, voice chatting, etc...i still find it all a treat.

though the game's difficulty was set very low, i would still recommend these titles to anyone who owns a 3DS.

and while everything will be improved with the next poke'installment...i can not consider this game to be a bad investment.

Ryukouki still open to exchange 3DS-Friend Codes ^_^"

* i have not forgotten *
 

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I give this 3DS game a 7.5/10 because after defeat of champion game is become empty feeling, also it was too easy.... I will say I did enjoy all moments but not much satisfied. It is still great game to have.
 

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Did you just choose a pokemon game?
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I did like XY at first. I now rarely play Pokemon X. Even though the lack of post game content. Breeding poke's kept me busy for a few months. You got people asking for a 6IV Shiny for a crappy iv Pokemon now, people d/c when they are losing and what not. Hopefully RS remakes will have more content added that won't go unused.

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To be honest, I never would've thought, that this game would be in the category (I'll tell you why later). Now, I love the way that you can breakdown a highly rated game, although there are a few minor cons, that a lot of people can't see because of the high replay value, but you can, which is impressive. I got to take notes lol, and kudos. Also, although You did hit all of the minor problems, but the question stills remains, is those any reason to give this, games you shouldn't buy title?... Theres minor issues, but it should be in a "games you should still buy" thread.
 
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I don't think this belongs in a series called "Games you shouldn't buy". While I'm sure the concerns you've brought up are legitimate, I do not believe they are enough to state that it is a game people should not buy. I think something like this would fit better in a "Dissenting Opinions" type column where you break down a popular game and explain why it's not as good as it's popularity would suggest. To say that people should not buy this game seems irresponsible because there are a lot of people who would legitimately enjoy this game that you are telling to not buy.
 

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Complaining about the difficulty and overlevelling is akin to crying in the rain.
How exactly? What's fun about playing a game where enemies go down in one or two hits? I'd say wanting more Pokemon in X/Y is "akin to crying in the rain" since even though doesn't have as many new Pokemon the older ones make up for it, not overleveling. Playing a game that's too easy isn't fun to play.
While I'll agree with you that the Pokemon games have never been the hardest games that doesn't mean they've been easy.
All the Pokemon games have provided a moderate challenge, X/Y sadly does not provide that.



The lack of end-game content is about the only legitimate complaint I see here, but they made it quick and easy to access so us older players didn't have to wait to get a nostalgia trip. Mewtwo was put there for us. Quick and easy competitive battling was the for us. The remixed and re-tuned versions of distictly memorable songs was there for us. It could have had more content, and if the map was anything to go by, it might have.
No matter how you look at it this is just unacceptable. The series has been improving on it's post end-game content since Generation Three (If you do not count Kanto from G/S/C/HG/SS. So what if we got Mewtwo? One Pokemon does not make up the possible hours that a player could have added if Game Freak didn't lazily think "WELP LET'S RELY ON NOSTALGIA! THAT'LL SURELY MAKE UP FOR IT!"


X and Y have a very specific audience, much more so than previous gens. If you're a long term player and you pass this gen up, you'll be doing yourself a disservice. This game is good, and like every other pokemon game before it, well worth the money you'll spend on it. I don't believe it deserves a spot in GYSnB due to the complaints being so nitpicky. Someone even pointed out how this write up could become "Games You Shouldn't Buy because I didn't like them", and I can already see it happening.
Going to have to disagree here. I'm a long term player but X/Y did nothing to me but doubt my faith in the franchise. It's a very bland game that has to have been rushed. There's no possible way a game this boring was meant to be the final product.
Especially the map design which were really simple and straight forward except for Lumiose City

If Pokemon X/Y did something right it was to show what the 3DS is capable of doing from a hardware perspective when it comes to future Pokemon games.
 

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Pokemon is pretty much like a sports game, you keep buying every year to get roster updates. 70 new players isn't a bad deal for $40, right? :P

I would say it is a bad deal, seeing as we got over 150 a Gen before for only $34 lol

I have to with Ryu agree here, Gen 6 was very lacking. From the amount of pokemon added versus the Gen before it, the content, the bland story, and awful side characters. Not to mention the replay value for these first 2 games are BAD........
 

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Great review, and reinforces a running gag (to my knowledge, the only legitimate answer to "X/Y have a Post Game!?" is "Looker Sidequest")

Next you should start doing "Anime you shouldn't watch"

...Start with Evangelion.
 

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