Hacking Gateway will fix any bricked 3DS for free, as long as you're not lying!

Xzi · Jan 17, 2014

Ryukouki said:
Honestly, if it were me, I'd not send it in. It might technically be cheaper to buy a new console. Shipping to China is an absolute nightmare and the bill could easily be $50+ for the label alone. Not to mention if it turns out it's not legitimate you're out on a 3DS and your chip. I'd be wary of this and wait for a bit before you make your decision.

I wouldn't hesitate to send it in if I had a brick from Gateway. There's no way the end user is going to be able to figure out how to repair it. It is literally just that, a brick, unless they can get it working for you again.

ELok · Jan 17, 2014

sergster1 said:
Hence why its the hard part.

Well it depend what you mean by "hard"

. It's more of a roadblock.

sergster1 · Jan 17, 2014

Xzi said:
I wouldn't hesitate to send it in if I had a brick from Gateway. There's no way the end user is going to be able to figure out how to repair it. It is literally just that, a brick, unless they can get it working for you again.

Not really. You're sending them 3DS components which can be repurposed and resold. I.E the shell, screens, buttons, etc

morvoran said:
If Nintendo decided to brick consoles for using flash cards, then people who used flash cards deserved to be bricked. Nintendo warned of this happening several times that using unauthorized devices may cause your console to brick. The same with Gateway's warning about clone cards before the recent issue of bricking. Still people used clones and got bricked.

I'm still not convinced that this code causing bricks isn't Gateways anti-update fix that caused them to brick their own 3ds. I can't be convinced just as Gateway won't be able to convince all the haters that this situation isn't their fault.

They included code that purposefully bricked consoles if it detected a clone. It back fired on legitimate gateway owners. Does it need to happen to you for you to believe?

Xzi · Jan 17, 2014

sergster1 said:
Not really. You're sending them 3DS components which can be repurposed. I.E the shell, screens, buttons, etc

And what else are you going to do with those components? Save them in case you get another bricked 3DS? Your only other option would be sending it to Nintendo, and they're guaranteed to charge your for an entirely new console, what with a third-party modification being the cause of the brick. Even worst case scenario, shipping costs you $50 to China. That's cheaper than any new or used 3DS.

ELok · Jan 17, 2014

Xzi said:
I wouldn't hesitate to send it in if I had a brick from Gateway. There's no way the end user is going to be able to figure out how to repair it. It is literally just that, a brick, unless they can get it working for you again.

Seriously? You'll be willingly spend +100$ and put all of your trust in GW to fix your console? They didn't show any video or proof or any detail about their "unbricking" method.

I don't think I would. For about 150$ you can buy a 4.5 3DS now. It's way more safer and faster.

And I'm sure you can sell a bricked 3DS for some serious bucks on ebay.

sergster1 · Jan 17, 2014

Xzi said:
And what else are you going to do with those components? Save them in case you get another bricked 3DS? Your only other option would be sending it to Nintendo, and they're guaranteed to charge your for an entirely new console, what with a third-party modification being the cause of the brick. Even worst case scenario, shipping costs you $50 to China. That's cheaper than any new or used 3DS.

But whats stopping gateway from claiming you bought your Gateway after the brick and saying that you used clone cart. Again I would be extremely wary to trust them and just get another 3DS second hand or wait til the actual community (I.E people like Yellow8, Normatt, and Profi200) decide to see if they can come up with something that can unbrick your console.

Xzi · Jan 17, 2014

ELok said:
Seriously? You'll be willingly spend +100$ and put all of your trust in GW to fix your console? They didn't show any video or proof or any detail on their "unbricking" method.

I don't think I would. For about 150$ you can buy a 4.5 3DS now. It's way more safer and faster.

And I'm sure you can sell a bricked 3DS for some serious bucks on ebay.

Which is why they said fix or replace. Either way, you're getting it back for about $100 cheaper than you could get any new or used 3DS.

Of course, it's all hypothetical considering we have, what? One confirmed case of only official Gateway hardware/firmware bricking a console? Mostly due to a faulty flash cart, none the less. I wouldn't be at all surprised if a bunch of idiots try to send their 3DS consoles bricked by R4i/3DSLink/etc into Gateway.

hiron · Jan 17, 2014

Xzi said:
And what else are you going to do with those components? Save them in case you get another bricked 3DS? Your only other option would be sending it to Nintendo, and they're guaranteed to charge your for an entirely new console, what with a third-party modification being the cause of the brick. Even worst case scenario, shipping costs you $50 to China. That's cheaper than any new or used 3DS.

The 3DS motherboards are being sold for 50 dollar. And thats only the motherboard.

sergster1 · Jan 17, 2014

Xzi said:
Which is why they said fix or replace. Either way, you're getting it back for about $100 cheaper than you could get any new or used 3DS.

Of course, it's all hypothetical considering we have, what? One confirmed case of only official Gateway hardware/firmware bricking a console? Mostly due to a faulty flash cart, none the less. I wouldn't be at all surprised if a bunch of idiots try to send their 3DS consoles bricked by R4i/3DSLink/etc into Gateway.

I think there were 2-3 confirmed reports. Remember that the bricks only happen based on a datetime seeded RNG. We could see more reports tomorrow, next week, or even next month.

ELok · Jan 17, 2014

Xzi said:
Which is why they said fix or replace. Either way, you're getting it back for about $100 cheaper than you could get any new or used 3DS.

Of course, it's all hypothetical considering we have, what? One confirmed case of only official Gateway hardware/firmware bricking a console? Mostly due to a faulty flash cart, none the less. I wouldn't be at all surprised if a bunch of idiots try to send their 3DS consoles bricked by R4i/3DSLink/etc into Gateway.

No it's ok, you trust GW we got it.

juins · Jan 17, 2014

hiron said:
The 3DS motherboards are being sold for 50 dollar. And thats only the motherboard.

Here in Nicaragua, a friend of mine bought a bricked (but with no flashcard use) for 80 bucks. He has a shop and needed the spare parts he said.

i DO know that a screen replacement instalation costs 60-80 bucks here

justinkb · Jan 17, 2014

sergster1

justinkb said:
sure, that is why the exploit was on 3dbrew for a year before anyone did anything with it.

any rebuttal?

Xzi · Jan 17, 2014

sergster1 said:
I think there were 2-3 confirmed reports. Remember that the bricks only happen based on a datetime seeded RNG. We could see more reports tomorrow, next week, or even next month.

In addition to passing the initial MD5/sanity check, and failing a later check. If you simply fail the initial check, you get a black screen requiring a restart. Which is why we have a fraction of Gateway bricks compared to R4i/3DSLink. I'm still not comfortable having the bricking code on my launcher at all, but that's not the point.

hiron · Jan 17, 2014

justinkb said:
sergster1

any rebuttal?

And how long did it took to find the exploit? I bet writing software is easier than finding a useful exploit. People will pay loads of money if you can find an exploit in 7.1.0.

sergster1 · Jan 17, 2014

justinkb said:
sergster1

any rebuttal?

Which exploit in question? Was it the one fixed in 7.0?

Also thats not true. People like SMEA used the exploit for personal use. Gateway and the other cart manufacturers are the only ones who used it for monetary gain.

ELok · Jan 17, 2014

justinkb said:
sure, that is why the exploit was on 3dbrew for a year before anyone did anything with it. take a hike, please.

Wait, GW is using that exploit? Can you give us your source of information?

mznova · Jan 17, 2014

It's funny there's so much hate towards gateway based on speculation. "It will PROBABLY cost a lot to ship". etc etc. All they said was to contact your vendor and they will take care of the rest. Until someone actually goes through the process, it's stupid to just sit here and whine about theoretical costs.

It's also clear many people are not even reading the message properly. It's not $100 for shipping. It's $100 to get your BRICKED console back if you lied to them about the brick being caused by a gateway card.

justinkb · Jan 17, 2014

sergster1 said:
Which exploit in question? Was it the one fixed in 7.0?

Also thats not true. People like SMEA used the exploit for personal use. Gateway and the other cart manufacturers are the only ones who used it for monetary gain.

the mset exploit, the crucial entry point, was on 3dbrew since mid-2012.

SMEA has been working from the Gateway launcher initially, so I don't know which way time flows in your universe, but in mine this still means Gateway laid that groundwork.

justinkb · Jan 17, 2014

ELok said:
Wait, GW is using that exploit? Can you give us your source of information?

everyone is using that exploit, every time they go into System settings and press that DS profile button.

using that you get code execution. then you also need a kernel exploit to get privileges.

Gateway team either found that one themselves or someone (*cough* *cough*) sold it to them.

3dbrew entry for the exploit below, note the date:

http://www.3dbrew.org/w/index.php?title=3DS_exploits&diff=prev&oldid=3771

sergster1 · Jan 17, 2014

justinkb said:
the mset exploit, the crucial entry point, was on 3dbrew since mid-2012.

SMEA has been working from the Gateway launcher initially, so I don't know which way time flows in your universe, but in mine this still means Gateway laid that groundwork.

I must not visit this forum that often because since WHEN was SMEA working with gateway.

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