Gateway 3DS Already Blocked

Arras · Jun 21, 2013

hhs said:
I haven't updated but I also haven't bought a card. Are nintendo's updates mandatory for new release games or just for the shop?

I wonder if we can just stay on low firmware forever and just have stripped roms.

Roms stripped of their updates MIGHT work, but I think one of the previous updates changed the way headers work and anything that uses the new method will be unable to be started by a lower firmware. If something like that happens again you will not be able to load new games whether they are stripped of updates or not.

Metoroid0 · Jun 21, 2013

Shadow#1 said:
there was no leaving out of anything

I heard otherwise.. but newer mind.

So the main thing is it can't support games that use firmware v6.x and up... for now.

If gateway is like DSTWO with UI and patching it so it can work on every 3DS firmware, than there's no cold for them I guess

heartgold · Jun 21, 2013

This is awesome news.

Snailface · Jun 21, 2013

Shadow#1 said:
because that's all that was in my email DUH

Usually they communicate via form emails. And the email in the other thread was identical except for the missing detail.

evil goober said:
This is the email I received.

It is coming out of course.
Currently it is not compatible with firmware v6.x but we are working on making
it compatible as quickly as possible.
Meanwhile, do NOT update your console until we say it is ok to do so.

I didn't know they were mixing form and custom responses to questions.
Simma down.

Rockhoundhigh · Jun 21, 2013

I almost wonder if a company like Nintendo would ever discover exploits in their code behind closed doors and then knowingly not patch them until the last second just to save some money and troll cart makers once they actually try to make a pirate's profit. Granted that might be giving them too much credit but the thought's always crossed my mind.

What I find legitimately interesting about this though this means that Gateway might have been using previously known tricks to get 3DS hardware "access" the entire time or at least just to get their cart to load.

stephysanrio · Jun 21, 2013

Well that was kinda obvious. And if they still release it I wouldn't be surprised if Nintendo considers taking certain directions for those using the card. Such as banning you for playing online...

At this point I believe that if its not a card from supercard is not worth it.

skarthebloodchild · Jun 21, 2013

stephysanrio said:
Well that was kinda obvious. And if they still release it I wouldn't be surprised if Nintendo considers taking certain directions for those using the card. Such as banning you for playing online...

At this point I believe that if its not a card from supercard is not worth it.

supercard is not a god.

p1ngpong · Jun 21, 2013

Metoroid0 said:
Yeah, but if you leave some things out, it is just natural that people will ask such questions

What are you talking about? There was nothing left out, the email was a simple inquiry as to if the gateway card was blocked by the latest 3ds update and nothing more and gateway answered the question. You can see the whole email in the screencap in the first post. What else do you want that is supposedly not included?

YamiHoshi.nl · Jun 21, 2013

Honestly, it should stay Blocked.
I mean, it still can't run Homebrew, making it totally useless to me.
Only if that problem will be solved, I'll get a Gateway 3DS, I'm using my Supercard DSTWO for Homebrew and ROM Hacks too.

Metoroid0 · Jun 21, 2013

skarthebloodchild said:
supercard is not a god.

It's not, but its Like a Cockroach, sooo resilient xD

!If you don't like Bugs, don't watch please!

skarthebloodchild · Jun 21, 2013

Metoroid0 said:
It's not, but its Like a Cockroach, sooo resilient xD

!If you don't like Bugs, don't watch please!

I don't like them.
I recently had some as pets but killed em all

FAST6191 · Jun 21, 2013

Rockhoundhigh said:
I almost wonder if a company like Nintendo would ever discover exploits in their code behind closed doors and then knowingly not patch them until the last second just to save some money and troll cart makers once they actually try to make a pirate's profit. Granted that might be giving them too much credit but the thought's always crossed my mind. What I find legitimately interesting about this though this means that Gateway might have been using previously known tricks to get 3DS hardware "access" the entire time or at least just to get their cart to load.

Companies run tests all the time and as patching costs money it has been know for things to be left to become critical before action is taken.

GamerzHell9137 said:
I remember peps saying ''Nintendo can't block a 1:1 clone''.
Hah, they can! ;O;

They can not block a 1:1 clone. This thing is obviously not a 1:1 clone.

GamerzHell9137 · Jun 21, 2013

FAST6191 said:
Companies run tests all the time and as patching costs money it has been know for things to be left to become critical before action is taken.

They can not block a 1:1 clone. This thing is obviously not a 1:1 clone.

Yup I knew that but peeps said that Gateway is a 1:1 clone but its not.
It obviously isn't cause it got blocked now.

Metoroid0 · Jun 21, 2013

GamerzHell9137 said:
Yup I knew that but peps said that Gateway is a 1:1 clone but its not.
It obviously isn't cause it got blocked now.

But to make 1:1 clone, you still need to fully hack the console, right?

raulpica · Jun 21, 2013

FAST6191 said:
They can not block a 1:1 clone. This thing is obviously not a 1:1 clone.

Thanks for being awesome, FAST.

GamerzHell9137 said:
Yup I knew that but peps said that Gateway is a 1:1 clone but its not.

Huh, the only one who said that was Pong0128012049 or what's his name, which also spread lots of other bullcrap.

GamerzHell9137 · Jun 21, 2013

Metoroid0 said:
But to make 1:1 clone, you still need to fully hack the console, right?

Yup, fully hack the console, but I still don't think that nobody can make a 1:1 clone, only nintendo.

FoulPlay · Jun 21, 2013

heartgold said:
This is awesome news.

This is not awesome at all, devices like this are your one hope for Region Free gaming on the 3DS unless something such as homebrew eventually does come along. Nintendo are the only company to still enforce region lock, as far as I know, which is utter bullshit in a lot of people's eyes who live in English speaking European countries that do not get games when their American friends get them or even get those said games at all...

Apologies to the rest of Europe, but waiting 6 months for a company to change mom to mum and color to colour for the language format we use is always bullshit, a lot of the time I wish we were just classified under "English" when it came to games, a completely separate release away from EUR alongside the Americans and Australians.

The only reason I'd purchase a flash card or install homebrew on my 3DS is Region Lock, this is also goes for the Wii U. This is 2013, yet games such as Scribblenauts Unlimited is still not out in Europe after it being released last year(?) in America...

I hope this get fixed or someone mods the 3DS for region free, I do not wish to wait months and months for A Link Between Worlds which I get the suspicion we will be with no confirmed timeline other than "Late 2013" rather than a specific month... smells like a push back to me.

Xarsah16 · Jun 21, 2013

Well Nintendo just shit all over Gateway's parade... but I remember one user saying that if something like this did happen, Nintendo was just throwing a bunch of bombs and one just happened to hit the target. (ish.) You get the point, and I'm thinking that's what happened. The cart was so close, we could taste it.

All I know is I'm holding out until a) either the price drops, and/or b) the 1:1 limitation is gone.

Ethevion · Jun 21, 2013

Yes Ninty, keep out future Pokemon battles fair!

Metoroid0 · Jun 21, 2013

p1ngpong said:
What are you talking about? There was nothing left out, the email was a simple inquiry as to if the gateway card was blocked by the latest 3ds update and nothing more and gateway answered the question. You can see the whole email in the screencap in the first post. What else do you want that is supposedly not included?

Snailface said
"Before we start shoveling dirt on the gateway, they have said they are still releasing:
http://gbatemp.net/threads/gateway-3ds-first-3ds-flashcart.348900/page-45#post-4684689
Don't know why that detail is missing from shadow's email."

evil goober from that link said:
"This is the email I received.
It is coming out of course.
Currently it is not compatible with firmware v6.x but we are working on making
it compatible as quickly as possible.
Meanwhile, do NOT update your console until we say it is ok to do so."

And E-Mail from Shadow was:
"[10:33] <|Shadow|> p1ngpong, ok i jsut got a email back from gateway team
[10:33] <|Shadow|> so its fact
[10:33] <|Shadow|> Currently it is not compatible with firmware v6.x but we are working on making
[10:33] <|Shadow|> it compatible as quickly as possible.
[10:33] <|Shadow|> Meanwhile, do NOT update your console until we say it is ok to do so.
[10:33] <|Shadow|> mailto:[email protected]
[10:33] <|Shadow|> > I heard Gateway 3DS was confirmed blocked on 6.0.0-xx 3DS firmware is this
[10:33] <|Shadow|> true?
[10:33] <|Shadow|> > Thanks"

But in Shadow Mail there was no "It is coming out of course." (what Snailface said also)Now i know that Shadow only got that without "It's coming out ofcourse" part, so i said that if you leave something unsaid it's just natural that people (Snailface) will ask questions on why gateway left that out, that's all

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