Gateway 3DS Already Blocked

[Snailface]

But to make 1:1 clone, you still need to fully hack the console, right?

No, just reverse engineer the card enough to pass a bunch of security checks.

Yup, fully hack the console, but i still don't think that noone can make a 1:1 clone, only nintendo.

I don't see why it is impossible, but obviously Gateway couldn't do it.

Anyway a perfect 1:1 isn't necessary, it just needs to be close enough to answer whatever challenges Nintendo can make the 3ds throw at it. And of course 'close enough' becomes more difficult as Nintendo releases updates.

 

[Xarsah16]

Yes Ninty, keep out future Pokemon battles fair!

You know that this won't really affect that right? If X&Y become runable on flash carts, you wouldn't be able to tell a difference between a retail copy and the flash copy while the games are running. I'd be more worried about things like Pokebuilder - if they can come out with a 3DS version, allowing people to create Pokemon right from their iPad or iPhone more easily than going into PokeSav or Pokegen.

 

[doorbell8423]

No, just reverse engineer the card enough to pass a bunch of security checks.

I don't see why it is impossible, but obviously Gateway couldn't do it.

Anyway a perfect 1:1 isn't necessary, it just needs close enough to answer whatever challenges Nintendo can make the 3ds throw at it.

Is it possible that they would need to make hardware changes to gateway if nintendo patch 3ds pretty badly, or a good gateway software patch would do the job?

I mean, if gateway can run 3ds roms now, that means it is already good as far as the hardware is concerned. I mean, the don't need to update the hardware in the future, right, just software (if there will be any..as they said)

 

[p1ngpong]

derp

Those are two different emails you genius.

 

[doorbell8423]

Those are two different emails you genius.

What is derp? i didnt said that lol xD

Anyway, that's My point why did Gateway said that they will be releasing the cart in his email, and in shadow email they didn't... did they changed their mind?

 

[beta4attack]

This is not awesome at all, devices like this are your one hope for Region Free gaming on the 3DS unless something such as homebrew eventually does come along. Nintendo are the only company to still enforce region lock, as far as I know, which is utter bullshit in a lot of people's eyes who live in English speaking European countries that do not get games when their American friends get them or even get those said games at all...

Apologies to the rest of Europe, but waiting 6 months for a company to change mom to mum and color to colour for the language format we use is always bullshit, a lot of the time I wish we were just classified under "English" when it came to games, a completely separate release away from EUR alongside the Americans and Australians.

The only reason I'd purchase a flash card or install homebrew on my 3DS is Region Lock, this is also goes for the Wii U. This is 2013, yet games such as Scribblenauts Unlimited is still not out in Europe after it being released last year(?) in America...

I hope this get fixed or someone mods the 3DS for region free, I do not wish to wait months and months for A Link Between Worlds which I get the suspicion we will be with no confirmed timeline other than "Late 2013" rather than a specific month... smells like a push back to me.

But wasn't it already confirmed that you can only play games from your region? This is not homebrew related at all, it's only piracy. I mean, your only benefit is playing games from your region for free.

 

[Snailface]

Is it possible that they would need to make hardware changes to gateway if nintendo patch 3ds pretty badly, or a good gateway software patch would do the job?

I mean, if gateway can run 3ds roms now, that means it is already good as far as the hardware is concerned. I mean, the don't need to update the hardware in the future, right, just software (if there will be any..as they said)

We don't know yet if Gateway can restore compatibility with a software update or will need to release an upgraded card. I bet on the latter.

 

[FoulPlay]

But wasn't it already confirmed that you can only play games from your region? This is not homebrew related at all, it's only piracy. I mean, your only benefit is playing games from your region for free.

They were looking into it. This was an actual ray of hope for people who get screwed over by this very annoying issue. Granted, yes, this is only piracy related, but to be honest when a company enforces something that was created because of technology and refresh rate standards of the 80's and 90's which are almost in-existent now because of their own... I don't even know if it's stupidity or greed with them, to be honest... but regardless.. region locking is a system that was implemented to solve the 50/60hz issue in the 80's and 90's... it should not exist now.

The only reason I would even pirate anything on Nintendo's new system is region lock.

 

[heartgold]

This is not awesome at all, devices like this are your one hope for Region Free gaming on the 3DS unless something such as homebrew eventually does come along. Nintendo are the only company to still enforce region lock, as far as I know, which is utter bullshit in a lot of people's eyes who live in English speaking European countries that do not get games when their American friends get them or even get those said games at all...

Apologies to the rest of Europe, but waiting 6 months for a company to change mom to mum and color to colour for the language format we use is always bullshit, a lot of the time I wish we were just classified under "English" when it came to games, a completely separate release away from EUR alongside the Americans and Australians.

The only reason I'd purchase a flash card or install homebrew on my 3DS is Region Lock, this is also goes for the Wii U. This is 2013, yet games such as Scribblenauts Unlimited is still not out in Europe after it being released last year(?) in America...

I hope this get fixed or someone mods the 3DS for region free, I do not wish to wait months and months for A Link Between Worlds which I get the suspicion we will be with no confirmed timeline other than "Late 2013" rather than a specific month... smells like a push back to me.

Dude stop crying. lol

Eu is getting a few games before USA.

Mario&Luigi Dream Team comes a month earlier here
Bravely Default flying fairy is stated 2013 here, but 2014 over in the USA (published by Nintendo I think)

Majority of the games have been a close release, apart from a few. Even so waiting a couple of months is nothing, stop whining over a few releases.

 

[FAST6191]

But to make 1:1 clone, you still need to fully hack the console, right?

Older devices and simpler devices you can probably make a clone of code without so much as writing a single line of assembly or knowing word one about any encryption. Slightly newer devices tended to opt for having things home hardware could not hope to match (lead in on optical media being a good one -- datel owning a proper press or something akin to it meant they could do things there that your home burner could not hope to do).
Newer devices have other means still though mass production and having to make simplistic end user devices does complicate things slightly. If you can get the data in the first place then you are in a far better position and may even be able to do without writing a line of code. If what has been said thus far is the case then Nintendo might have gone the simpler route or aimed at another thing they do not want -- the ways you protect against straight pirate clones, clone style cards and full on flash carts are sometimes quite different.

 

[Boy12]

Exactly!

 

[FoulPlay]

Dude stop crying. lol

Eu is getting a few games before USA.

Mario&Luigi Dream Team comes a month earlier here
Bravely Default flying fairy is stated 2013 here, but 2014 over in the USA (published by Nintendo I think)

Majority of the games have been a close release, apart from a few. Even so waiting a couple of months is nothing, stop whining over a few releases.

Working in the US 6 months of the year to hit publishing issues in the European territories does this to you. Sorry if you see this as crying, but as a developer stand-point it's also an issue. Even if the games you work on are for completely different devices. Especially when you have family that can't play your work simply because of this stuff. I guess I feel a lot stronger about this seeing the other side of it, but whatever, treat it however you like.

 

[ComeTurismO]

All I can say is:
lol

 

[Runehasa]

Honestly, it should stay Blocked.
I mean, it still can't run Homebrew, making it totally useless to me.
Only if that problem will be solved, I'll get a Gateway 3DS, I'm using my Supercard DSTWO for Homebrew and ROM Hacks too.

Honestly who the fork cares about homebrew/emulators anymore. For things like flashcard the goal is to be able to play new games not games that have been out and emulated on every system since the 90s. If you want to play mario 1 download it and play it from a emulator on your cell phone.

 

[Redhorse]

I agree with WiiUbricker,
I believe the 3ds was blocked by chance
(not an exact quote) ( meaning possibly not intentionaly). if it WAS blocked intentionally, that would mean (since it's not released yet) that someone who may have landed a review copy, was working with or tipped the hand to Nintendo, and I'd find the former more likely. The timing is very suspicious though.
ANYWAY, I'm not looking forward to it, just following the news on it, so it's of low interest to me...

 

[LAA]

Wow wasn't expecting it to get blocked by that update...
Well I don't plan on getting it as soon as its released anyway, I want multiple ROM support and hopefully homebrew, before I get a flashcart.
Either way, I'll definitely need to update the 3DS eventually when miiverse/accounts come to it.

 

[Aeter]

I don't like them.
I recently had some as pets but killed em all

You monster!

We don't know yet if Gateway can restore compatibility with a software update or will need to release an upgraded card. I bet on the latter.

If it's the latter, I'm throwing them in the shitty clone bin and will wait for a decent team, who thinks, ahead and will produce a more future proof card.

 

[BORTZ]

This is good news. I would like the 3DS to have a few more years of unadulterated glory before the scene catches up and piracy runs ramant.

Homebrew, yeah its sad we cant do that stuff yet but for some reason, homebrew in some minds means nothing more than a way to load commercial roms...

With great homebrew comes great piracy...

 

[dark06star]

Oh well already updated lol. But I am not buying it now anyway, 80$ and it can't support new updates? that would be crap.. If they fix that problem I might buy it ... even though I think it's expensive, especially where I live because everything here is double the price -.-''. Animal Crossing would keep me busy until it gets cheaper or something XD

 

[T-hug]

Saw this coming!
The cart will eventually become perma blocked. Better off waiting to see if the chip decapping brings some kind of software solution.