Which do you prefer in a videogame?

What do you prefer in a videogame?

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iSneeze said:
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But still, think about it: Would you rather play a game because it's popular and has amazing graphics, or a game that has medium to low graphics that's the funnest game since the 90's, since that's about the time games started taking a dive.

When I play a popular game with amazing graphics (like CoD), I'm kinda like:
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When I play a game with medium to low graphics (no matter how fun) and would probably be a shame to let those around me know I play (like nintendo), I'm kinda like:
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Oh, my. You certainly are a provincial one, aren't you?
I really can't knock you for enjoying the games you do (it IS your opinion, after all), but you do worry me a bit. It's as if you only play games to maintain a good image. Do you really feel ashamed to play games with bad graphics? Ashamed as in "Oh dear, someone might see me playing this game in 480-i. The horror!"? If that's the case, you're certainly limiting your horizon. There are countless games that are priceless gems simply because they're a delight to play, regardless of such trifling factors as polygon count or popularity. If these are the only two factors that drive your video game preferences, I actually feel a bit sorry for you, for your stubbornness means you'll never be able to experience some of the most charming, masterful, and downright fun games the world has to offer. Never to experience the sudden moistness of palm and rapid increase of heart rate upon entering the final showdown with Bowser in Super Mario Bros. 3. Never to be dazzled by the ridiculously humorous and charm-filled LucasArts Adventure games. Never to identify with the woeful cries of today's Sega fans as they wonder why the Sonic the hedgehog games don't quite seem to carry the fun factor as they used to in the days of Blast processing. Never to experience the simple, unadulterated entertainment of playing a round of Wii Sports Tennis with friends or family. Never to accidentally find yourself humming the infectiously catchy soundtrack from Parappa the Rapper. Never to acquire the distinct sense of triumph received from tackling one of the many seemingly impossible bosses from the Final Fantasy III. I could go on forever, about games from the past, games from the present, and games from the future, that you'll never play, simply because they don't adhere to your stubborn and misguided tastes. Oh well.
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ON TOPIC: Gameplay, as many have stated before, is a key factor of any game, regardless of genre or platform. No matter how silky smooth and pretty Call of Duty may be, it wouldn't be nearly as enjoyable if the controls weren't able to satisfy the split-second burdens the game demands. Or if it didn't register bullets when it oh-so-obviously hit that guy. Or if, no matter how many killstreaks or experience you got, there was no payoff in the end. Let's face it, there's a reason we like games, and the reason extends farther than simply how it looks. I recently received an iPod Touch 4 for Christmas, and found myself downloading Epic Citadel to mess around in it. It's a gorgeous piece of work, to be sure, but at the end of the day, offering little gameplay aside from moving and marveling at the many snazzy effects the game exemplifies, I didn't find myself coming back for more the way I do Dig-Dug.
I'm not saying that graphics account for NOTHING. They are indeed an essential part of any game. They must not excel to make a good game, but be functional. No one would play Gran Turismo if it ran at ten frames per second, or if the camera perspective was so low to the ground that you could hardly see the next turn coming. No one would play Super Mario Bros. if they couldn't distinguish the character from the background. Games require funtional, unobtrusive graphics, but they do not necessarily require fantastic graphics.
Perhaps some of you immediately answer "graphics" as your preferred factor in a videogame simply because you've never played that one game that seems horribly dated, and is a downright disgrace to the human eye, but you found yourself loving it nonetheless. If that's the case, I hope you do find that game someday. Then, you'd know why some of us are reacting to you graphics junkies in such a negative manner.

Anyway, those are my views, ill-expressed an disorganized as they are. Carry on, everyone.
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I voted gameplay. Visuals do matter. They have to be atmospheric and original.

I like the styles Nintendo dit on the SNES. ( Zelda, Marioworld 2, Starfox )
I also likes what they did on the NES. Lots of Detail an livelyness.
Capcom did a very good job presenting Megaman on the NES. With equal gameplay.

Gameplay first- Graphic have to unlock emotions, and have to pull you in the game alongside good fresh gameplay. They just has to fit each other.

Photo realistic graphics don't bother to me. I also rather see a drawn cartoon instead of photo realistic cgi.
Bottom line: both have to be artistic/original.
Some developer are very good in the artwork. Those are the games that ussaly have the better gameply too.
It's all about passion for the industry. Do both right and you sell a lot of games. And the game is remebered till eternity.

( Zelda's, Mario's, 1st 3 sonic games for example )
 

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Aw.. I wasn't here to catch the troll war. Too bad.

Anyways, Gameplay is the top priority, the graphics matter, but not so much to affect an excellent game. I mean, in the times of the SNES, graphics were what you could care least about, as long as you know what the hell is going on in the screen.

On another note, Music is a gigantic factor for me as before I buy a game, I always look for the soundtracks on youtube. Kinda weird, but true.

Guys, please ignore major trollface over there. He's got a bane for anything Nintendo. (but it's a refreshing change of pace to have a mildly active member that hates Nintendo, fun to argue with)
 

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iSneeze said:
ShadowSoldier said:
iSneeze said:
Wii: few games with awesome gameplay and crap graphics for all.
PS3 and Xbox 360: Few games with awesome gameplay and amazing graphics for pretty much all.

Ma personal opinion.
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You're actually annoying how you're always posting that troll pic.

Crap graphics? Clearly you've never played games like Okami and No More Heroes, which has something that no PS3 or 360 game has... COLOR. Also, the whole realistic look games try to have, creeps me out because it can never be perfected, and it makes the game look ugly to me.

Also, you didn't answer the question, so your opinion is invalid.


Gameplay destroys all aspects in a game. If the gameplay isn't good, no matter how good the rest of the game is, the game will suck.

That's where you're wrong. game play doesn't destroy all other aspects. Just take a look at Gran Tursimo. 5 FUCKING YEARS and consumers have eagerly and desperately waited for it's next release. Let's not forget that the whole thing is nothing but a simulator, the most realistic game out there on the market and yet its sales are high. Game play of course makes a big deal, but so does graphics for those who have a taste for it, and so does music, art, violence and others. Different factors appeal to different kinds of people. YOU have your preference, I have my preference.

Sound to me you don't know what gameplay is?

Also you worry to much what other people think of you. don't be afraid to play nintendo and tell your "friends". Just enjoy life.
after a few years you'll look back on the games you like now, and think...""Man, I need to play the latest Zelda AGAIN! " because it's fun, entertaining an just gets me hooked."
 

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Hielkenator said:
Sound to me you don't know what gameplay is?

Also you worry to much what other people think of you. don't be afraid to play nintendo and tell your "friends". Just enjoy life.
after a few years you'll look back on the games you like now, and think...""Man, I need to play the latest Zelda AGAIN! " because it's fun, entertaining an just gets me hooked."

He hates his Wii, and Zelda, as said in the old thread of fun trolling. Wee.
 

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iSneeze said:
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Then you're a sad excuse of a gamer. If it wasn't for Nintendo, there wouldn't even BE a game industry.

And it's posts like yours that I have no choice but to respond to because they're so idiotic and pathetic.

My god it's you again. Leave me alone! I get it, you hate me, my method of posting, my opinions, my taste and pretty much everything I do! LEAVE ME ALONE!
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God, you sound like a child. You made a statement (and a stupid one at that), he has every right to reply to your statement contradicting it if he wants to. If you don't like it, then leave. And your embarrassed to play video games from a company that made video gaming what it is today? That is one of the most idiotic things I have ever heard.
 

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Great games present and future will be heavily influenced by graphics. To prove this take a look at the 3DS. 3D without glasses, and just as strong as the Wii if not more... in a handheld. Video games are evolving at an astonishing rate. Now, a great game isn't just defined by graphics. As this poll suggests, it needs gameplay. Of course a game needs great gameplay, however if this is defined by gimmicks such as the 3DS, or the Wii, it may break the game. Which is why I generally don't put much stock into specialized controllers and such that are required for some games. Great gameplay can be in any game past future or present, but in the future a game with sub par graphics with amazing gameplay may be just ignored. The ever evolving graphics of this generation is going to be a must in the next one. Gimmicks not so much until it's proven they can work (like the Wii, and hopefully the 3DS to it's full extent). So at any rate I voted gameplay all the way, but soon Graphics are going to have to be a must.
 

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Argentum Vir said:
Great games present and future will be heavily influenced by graphics. To prove this take a look at the 3DS. 3D without glasses, and just as strong as the Wii if not more... in a handheld. Video games are evolving at an astonishing rate. Now, a great game isn't just defined by graphics. As this poll suggests, it needs gameplay. Of course a game needs great gameplay, however if this is defined by gimmicks such as the 3DS, or the Wii, it may break the game. Which is why I generally don't put much stock into specialized controllers and such that are required for some games. Great gameplay can be in any game past future or present, but in the future a game with sub par graphics with amazing gameplay may be just ignored. The ever evolving graphics of this generation is going to be a must in the next one. Gimmicks not so much until it's proven they can work (like the Wii, and hopefully the 3DS to it's full extent). So at any rate I voted gameplay all the way, but soon Graphics are going to have to be a must.

Agreed. Just have fun now.It's all that matters.Live is short enough as it is....
 

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Gameplay.
If you look at alot of the games on x360 and PS3,they rely on graphics.
Im tired of graphics whore gamers who wank to CoD because "ItZ SoOOo ReaLIsTIc!"
If i want realistic in a video game i go outside and do something like paintball.
 

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captain obvious and no **** sherlock unite!
since i still play nes, snes, gameboy, old pc games and stuff, i say gameplay
if i need graphics, i look around in my room
if the gameplay sucks, then it's like watching an awkward movie
 

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The way the OP is set up, it sounds as if you think the wii is inferior ONLY or BECAUSE the inferior graphics. While I think it's a little of both. The graphics suck, yes, But as many have said, who cares.

The problem is the amount of third party AAA titles. I'll go off myself personally. In the past few months for 360 I've purchased: Fallout New Vegas, Fable 3, Assassin's Creed Brotherhood, Black Ops, Dragon Age Origins, Borderlands, Mass Effect 2, and Bioshock 2 (admittedly, some were xmas presents).

What has come out on Wii during that same time to any critical acclaim at all? Two platformers (DKC & Kirby). One of which is all of 4 hours in length and looks like a 6 year old girls wet dream. So yes, all those games I've played since octoberish DO have far superior graphics. But, if Fallout is your kind of game, there is more content, and solid, voice acted, well scripted, content in that then 2 years worth of Wii releases. Remove Nintendo's IP and you're left with goldeneye and monster hunter 3.
 

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Ossot said:
The way the OP is set up, it sounds as if you think the wii is inferior ONLY or BECAUSE the inferior graphics. While I think it's a little of both. The graphics suck, yes, But as many have said, who cares.

The problem is the amount of third party AAA titles. I'll go off myself personally. In the past few months for 360 I've purchased: Fallout New Vegas, Fable 3, Assassin's Creed Brotherhood, Black Ops, Dragon Age Origins, Borderlands, Mass Effect 2, and Bioshock 2 (admittedly, some were xmas presents).

What has come out on Wii during that same time to any critical acclaim at all? Two platformers (DKC & Kirby). One of which is all of 4 hours in length and looks like a 6 year old girls wet dream. So yes, all those games I've played since octoberish DO have far superior graphics. But, if Fallout is your kind of game, there is more content, and solid, voice acted, well scripted, content in that then 2 years worth of Wii releases. Remove Nintendo's IP and you're left with goldeneye and monster hunter 3.

you still got a lot of older games to be able to play with
the 2nd thing is just what i mentioned: good ports
dragon age is better on pc
fallout 3 and vegas is better on pc
mass effect 2 is better on pc
bioshock/bioshock 2 is better on pc
fable 3 will come out on pc, [though it may not be better]
cod6mw2 is better in pc etc etc
considering this, hte PC seems superior to the xbox, while it isn't

you can't get red dead redemption, brütal legend, vikings and a bunch of good games on the pc for what the xbox is worth a purchase
but the games on the wii are not ported to the pc and most of it's games are long-lasting local-multiplayer games[still to this day we can't decide with friends to either play mario kart/nsmbw/smash broz etcetc...] while i can hardly get my bro to play either dynasty warriors or atleast fable in co-op
for online, i've got the pc again, i prefer writing to talking online and the controls are just better than relying on auto-aim

so considering all this, getting a wii and a pc seems like a better choice than going for a pc and an xbox[or ps3]
and since most ppl have a pc, why not go for the wii? it has good games too, however not available on ze pc

and it doesn't have unbearably bad graphics
at least for me, even kirby's girlish yarn looks better than getting bloodstains with blinding bloom in my face[endless ww games....]
 

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Ossot said:
The way the OP is set up, it sounds as if you think the wii is inferior ONLY or BECAUSE the inferior graphics. While I think it's a little of both. The graphics suck, yes, But as many have said, who cares.

The problem is the amount of third party AAA titles. I'll go off myself personally. In the past few months for 360 I've purchased: Fallout New Vegas, Fable 3, Assassin's Creed Brotherhood, Black Ops, Dragon Age Origins, Borderlands, Mass Effect 2, and Bioshock 2 (admittedly, some were xmas presents).

What has come out on Wii during that same time to any critical acclaim at all? Two platformers (DKC & Kirby). One of which is all of 4 hours in length and looks like a 6 year old girls wet dream. So yes, all those games I've played since octoberish DO have far superior graphics. But, if Fallout is your kind of game, there is more content, and solid, voice acted, well scripted, content in that then 2 years worth of Wii releases. Remove Nintendo's IP and you're left with goldeneye and monster hunter 3.

Who cares? Numerous people. Tastes differ among people. It's a persons choice to care about it or not. You are creating a mass generalization of the tastes of people in games. GRAPHIC MATTER.

Sure the 360 has numerous good games, but in all truth, as I said, people differ in tastes. On a different thread, I said that the 360 and Wii differ in target audiences (or at least before the release of Kinect). The Wii caters to old ladies, housewives and 7 year old kids. The PS3 and 360 are hardcore consoles. In other words, there are people that don't care that a game has a 10/10 score on IGN when they can play Mario Kart with their kids.

But I digress. The problem with this poll is that the results are extremely obvious. It's almost unnecessary. This thread is more for discussion I guess. Also, this is in a group of NINTENDO fanboys. You know Nintendo.
 

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Christ people are trolled too easily. If anyone realized that Ossot was just purposefully putting slander in there to piss off the public then they'd have the common sense to ignore his nonsense comments.

And for the record, if that's a six year old girl's wet dream, I want to be a six year old girl. You do not know epic until you get a friend and shout profanities at the screen as you sling Squashini across the screen while his shiny innards fly out of him.

And put No More Heroes 2 on that third party list. It wasn't nearly as good as the first (in my opinion) but it was still pretty good (and I would still purchase it today). Red Steel 2 deserves a spot too.

EDIT: Reworded the last sentence so people wouldn't think I felt Red Steel was better (since Red Steel is a shitty game).

EDIT 2: And fuck y'all video games. The last video game I probably bought was KOTOR for the PC on a Steam sale. I've been spending every cent I get on more Magic cards. Magic > life > video games.
 

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Maybe I was exaggerating the lack of content on the Wii slightly. But my point wasn't intended to incite hate.

Compare the wii's NON-Nintendo IP games to the other console's non-first-party published games. That's the Wii's problem. Not graphics. And I admit, Kirby was a fun little game. My point is it lacks anywhere near the depth of a mass effect. Yes, Yes, different target audience. But, let's be honest here. If you're posting in this thread and debating the Wii's pitfalls, you are, more than likely, also in the "hardcore" audience. And I'm sure I'll forget something, and I'll get told how I'm obviously a huge asshole for not remembering that one Wii game that was someone's favorite and totally sold 37k copies, but let's try to name games that aren't nintendo IP and are great. NMH, MH:Tri, Conduit, Mad World, TvC, Okami, Sin & Punishment, Muramasa.

And that is being, for some games imo, liberal with that list. Also, I dare say, none of those games target the parents-kids audience others have pointed out. Some of those games are beautiful as is, and others were actually ported to the HD consoles. Before proceeding, I will admit, I never played Okami. So if it's orgasmic and deep and a true AAA title, I apologize.

Now then, I'm going to do the same thing for IGN's 360 list sorted by ranking, retail releases, non-microsoft published, no multi-console releases (cod/guitars). Although I'm not as up on ms published titles, so if I include one by mistake, my apologies. GTA4, Bioshock, RDR, Mass Effect 2, Fallout 3, Orange Box, Bayonetta, ME1

There eight from each. Now, I'm not trying to position this as an xbox is better. That's not at all my intent. I simply own an xbox so it's easier for me to use it to demonstrate my point. This thread, trollbait it is, is attempting to establish if graphics make or break a game. While there is no denying some of the games on the xbox list have amazing graphics. What i'm suggesting is that Conduit with beautiful graphics is still a mediocre shooter. Bioshock with mediocre graphics is still a great shooter. It's not just the graphics that are better on the more successful systems, it is the third party games. It is the amount of care and polish that goes into them. The xbox360 and the Wii both use dvd media. There's no excuse for the majority of AAA xbox titles having complete voice work, and finding a wii release with voice acting throughout is like hitting the lottery. Yes, voice acting can suck, and we can all debate how much it increases the value of a game. Where I think there is little room for debate though is this - it is expected on the other consoles. On the wii, it's entirely optional. That, to me, is a lack of polish.

And that doesn't even factor in the lack of advertising for third party Wii games. Back when Dead Space came out I couldn't play FPS. I'd get extremely motion sick quickly. Yes I know it was on rails, but it fucked with me just the same. The bit I did play of it though, it seemed quite good. It also got reviewed well. I forget what game was released on the other consoles at that time. Let's say it was some CoD game. I couldn't turn the tv on w/o seeing a CoD commercial - and I DVR everything. I never once saw a dead space commercial though. Then EA (it was EA wasn't it?) blamed Wii owners lack of wanting hardcore games. As we're all some Wii owning sumbitches, I think that's as inaccurate as blaming graphics. Wii owners want hardcore games, and most gamers don't care about graphics. The problem is A, the lack of polish in 3rd party titles, and B, a lack of advertising anything other than a retarded dance game.

Anywho, now I'm ranting. Again, this isn't an xbox versus Wii. Or PS3 versus wii. This is Mass Effect/2 has more depth and polish than almost any third party wii games. And although that's opinion, and some people may hate ME, there are a handful of other HD games, surely in genres my dear reader may play, that can be inserted into that previous sentence. They aren't great because they're shiny. They're great because the content, engagement, game length, and polish. The graphics just make them a little more fun to look at.

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Graphics are like bikinis. Everyone likes them and they're great. No one can deny the awesomeness of nice graphics or a bikini. The content itself is the body underneath. What I'm saying is even in a great bikini, the bulk of Wii games are still the first young woman. Where even with a 1-piece on instead of sexy bikini, the AAA titles from the HD consoles are the second young woman.
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actually, some ppl[like me] likes handhelds because they've got pick-up-and-play games which are easy to get into
while i've played tons of games on the ds and the wii, i hardly play 1 or 2 games on the pc and it's because there are just too many things in them, it gets complicated real fast and i just don't feel like spending tons of hours just to get into it
i found the balance in the wii actually, it may not have such in-depth gameplay, but compare super castlevania IV and SotN: they are both friggin awesome while SotN has a much more in-depth gameplay, SCIV is just a pick-up-and-play game and is just as much fun for some people
i like to get into some of the games, but some are just simple and that's why they last long and can be addicting
nintendo follows this path
i usually play 1 or 2 games at maximum which are really deep in gameplay with loads of content and play all the time some of the more simple games

if in mario galaxy, there would've been more drama in the story, you could pick up 50+special moves, do quests, hear voice acting, be able to have 500+gloves, overalls, hats with different attributes, level up and other things.........i think i'd skip it
the point of mario and link not talking, crying over things, failing, falling in desperation, getting into romance, do bad things is because they both have generic hero characteristics which is symphatic for most ppl
for ex.: since star fox command, i hated star fox, i became a star wolf fan and just haven't even completed the game, the story and his characteristics were absurd, i want to shoot stuff, defeat evil, hear some briefing and have falco always tell me how much i suck
and not that peppy's little girl can't help coming with us, krystal going emo and fox crying over it, while falco is a dúché drama-loner, that's just too much

and some games are just bleh w/o depth[borderlands singleplayer mode? rly? hellgate london....etc]

so as you can see, in some games depth works and is in need [dragon age, mass effect, etc...] while some don't [mario, cod games etc...]
this is not the lack of polish, this is how it should be

i'd like some hardcore game for the wii and i've got it actually [resi4, silent hill, 2 of my fav franchisés], but i like casual games more and those ppl choose wii
hardcore games need graphics[the more realistic a survival horror game is, the scarier it is]

and i hate bikinisxD
but go figure, samus had too if u completed the original metroid quick:D
 

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I see your point, and granted, we're going slightly away from the OP's intent, but to me, I feel the Wii is inferior because it deals almost exclusively with the more "shallow" games you mention. While RE4 and SH2 are deeper, they are a rarity amongst Wii games. And this past year, the year heralded as a return of the Wii, almost all the great releases were platformers or other games which are just "fun." (Granted, that is exactly what all games should be). I attribute that fact more to Wii's lack of success with the "hardcore" audience than I do the graphics. A gamer who uses a competitor's console or the PC has the option of a variety of depth and PSN/XBLA for the "fun" games. Where as it seems Wii owners are presented with primarily only the latter.
 

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well yeah
that's why we've got different consoles
need hardcore stuff? pc-xbox-ps-psp
need casual stuff? wii, ds
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for me, the xbox and the ps3 is inferior because of it's games
graphics play part, but it's really a matter of taste
 

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