Trump Raid and the End of the United States (Padraig Martin)

[LainaGabranth]

But did they find anything? Thats my question.

https://www.nytimes.com/live/2022/08/12/us/trump-news
Yes. Like, objectively.

 

[sombrerosonic]

https://www.nytimes.com/live/2022/08/12/us/trump-news
Yes. Like, objectively.

Ok, Thats what i was looking for, Thanks.

The only question is about the Hillary Clinton email server (Confidential files on there), Will it end up like that or not?

 

[LainaGabranth]

I don't really care about Hillary right now, because she doesn't pose the kind of threat to the United States that Trump does.

 

[sombrerosonic]

Ill just take that as a yes

Oh well, i hate these threads as much as the other guy, ima head out and troll some guy on the net

 

[Creamu]

'[...]

“The RAID was Politics, the Midterm Elections, and 2024. It’s another form of Election CHEATING—That’s all the Radical Left Democrats know what to do. They use the FBI & DOJ to try and dirty up their opponents, but the people of our Country are wise to them like never before. Be careful what you wish for!” Trump wrote in a statement on his Truth Social platform on Aug. 13.

[...]

The FBI raid has significantly boosted voter enthusiasm. According to a survey released by the Convention of States Action and The Trafalgar Group, 83.3 percent of Republicans, 71.7 percent of Independents, and 55.2 percent of Democrats said the raid increased their motivation to vote in November.

Among Independent voters, the survey found that 53.9 percent said they believe “Trump’s political enemies” were behind the raid, with 35.3 percent believing it was the “impartial justice system,” and 10.8 percent saying they were not sure.

The poll was conducted for two days ending on Aug. 10 during which 1,095 respondents were polled.

[...]

“This is a political hit job, designed to stop President Trump from seeking the White House in 2024,” Rep. Clay Higgins (R-La.) wrote on Twitter on Aug. 9. “It will not stand. We are demanding immediate oversight hearings in Congress.”

“The FBI engaged in partisan politics by raiding President Trump to try and damage the America First movement ahead of the 2022 midterms and to try and harm President Trump’s chances of defeating their preferred Democrat candidate in 2024,” Rep. Mary Miller (R-Ill.) wrote on Twitter on Aug. 9.

[...]

The FBI has “a long and unrelenting history of being corrupt,” Trump wrote. “In the modern era, nothing has changed except that it has gotten far worse. … They spied on my campaign, pushed the FAKE Dossier, and illegally used the FISA [Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act] Court.”

“NOW THEY RAID MY HOME, ban my lawyers and, without any witnesses allowed, break the lock that they asked us to install on the storage area that we showed them early on, which held papers that they could have had months ago for the asking,” Trump added.

“The whole World was watching as the FBI rummaged through the house, including the former First Lady’s closets (and clothing!), alone and unchecked,” Trump continued. “They even demanded that the security cameras be turned off (we refused), but there was no way of knowing if what they took was legitimate, or was there a ‘plant?’ This was, after all, the FBI!”'

https://www.theepochtimes.com/trump-calls-fbi-raid-another-form-of-election-cheating_4663503.html?

 

[LainaGabranth]

Yeah, the far right is going to be mad about this, because their Dear Leader is getting punished for doing stupid shit. Why is the party of "Law and Order" and "Blue Lives Matter" so tilted when the law works against them?

 

[Creamu]

Yeah, the far right is going to be mad about this, because their Dear Leader is getting punished for doing stupid shit. Why is the party of "Law and Order" and "Blue Lives Matter" so tilted when the law works against them?

The law; The FBI

choose one.

 

[Xzi]

Ok, Thats what i was looking for, Thanks.

The only question is about the Hillary Clinton email server (Confidential files on there), Will it end up like that or not?

No, because there was never any law enforcement movement on that. Just months and months of partisan investigations that went nowhere and wasted a ton of taxpayer money. And then Ivanka/Jared did the exact same thing as part of the Trump administration (had their own private e-mail server), and nobody batted an eye. Other than a few people calling out the hypocrisy, anyway.

I'm no fan of hers, either, she's a neolib who can't run a strong campaign. Just calling out stupidity wherever I see it.

 

[LainaGabranth]

The law; The FBI

choose one.

I'm acab as much as the next girl but you have to acknowledge that when the law is broken, there needs to be repercussions.

 

[TraderPatTX]

Good thing he's no longer president then, eh? Not that the office should ever be used as a shield against criminal charges in the first place.


I know you would, that's why there's no point in continuing to discuss this with you. Trump could murder your mom and rape your dad and you'd still be willing to pretend he's the most innocent person to walk the Earth since Jesus.

Good thing he declassified everything while he was still president. The reason the Espionage Act cannot be used against any president is because they are the ultimate declass authority.

Considering both my parents have passed, my dad less than two months ago, shows what an absolute heartless clown you are.

Every response from the leftists in this forum are getting more desperate by the day. Give me your worse. Your insults and bigotry only makes you look smaller and more insignificant.

 

[TraderPatTX]

NO ONE is above the law, mr law and order party.
Not even Former presidents.

Supreme Court already ruled on this in 1987. It's not my opinion, it's already precedent.

Learn.to.research.

Also, he wasn't a former president when he declassed those documents.

I bet you can't explain why they took attorney-client privileged documents and his passports and what they have to do with supposed TS/SCI documents.

 

[djpannda]

TS/SCI documents found near storage room near the pool. These are American secerts.
1.These are Documents that are not allowed to leave a special sensitive room.
2.Declassifiation is a process, (pending on the info needs to be verified by other depts (etc Army) Can't wave magic wand
3.Not able to declassify Nuclear or info related to espionage info.
4. IS not able to declassify after the person leaves office
5. Declassified documents are labeled (thru paperwork and an ACTUALLY sticker/stamp stating "declassified")

This is a Crime (Period).

 

[TraderPatTX]

I'm acab as much as the next girl but you have to acknowledge that when the law is broken, there needs to be repercussions.

You ain't ACAB. You are just pro-federal police and anti-local police. It's the whole fascist/communist centralization of power that makes all leftists panties wet.

The FBI could entrap people to kidnap a governor and you would cheer it on... oh wait, that really did happen and the left cheered it on.

 

[osaka35]

They asked trump for documents back, he didn't give them all back, so they got a court order to look for them. Was it illegal for trump to not return those documents? probably depends on the content of the documents and is above my pay-grade. but the FBI, at the very least, didn't act improperly or without merit. this wasn't some super cereal secret operation, it's been surprisingly transparent.

Good thing he declassified everything while he was still president. The reason the Espionage Act cannot be used against any president is because they are the ultimate declass authority.

Considering both my parents have passed, my dad less than two months ago, shows what an absolute heartless clown you are.

Every response from the leftists in this forum are getting more desperate by the day. Give me your worse. Your insults and bigotry only makes you look smaller and more insignificant.

even a president can't just declassify nuclear related stuff. Presidential powers DO have limits. and you also have to still be president in order to use them, so it'll be important that only the things he declassified are/were in his possession. Who knows, maybe only declassified documents were in his possession. We'll see.

 

[LainaGabranth]

You ain't ACAB. You are just pro-federal police and anti-local police. It's the whole fascist/communist centralization of power that makes all leftists panties wet.

The FBI could entrap people to kidnap a governor and you would cheer it on... oh wait, that really did happen and the left cheered it on.

"Hah you would totally cheer this on! In fact, other people did it, so I know you did it!!"
Most intelligent Trader post

 

[TraderPatTX]

"Hah you would totally cheer this on! In fact, other people did it, so I know you did it!!"
Most intelligent Trader post

I see you didn't even try to deny it.

 

[Xzi]

The reason the Espionage Act cannot be used against any president is because they are the ultimate declass authority.

The president is not king. There are several security protocols that have to be cleared before declassifying certain documents/information, and if Trump had gone through those protocols, he wouldn't have lied about the documents that he was keeping at Mar-a-lago in the first place. Logic.

Considering both my parents have passed, my dad less than two months ago, shows what an absolute heartless clown you are.

Like I was just supposed to know that through internet telepathy or something. I'm sorry for your loss, but that doesn't make your obsession with shielding Trump from the consequences of his own actions any less cult-like or pathetic.

 

[LainaGabranth]

I see you didn't even try to deny it.

I don't entertain nonsense. I laugh at it.

 

[djpannda]

The president is not king. There are several security protocols that have to be cleared before declassifying certain documents/information, and if Trump had gone through those protocols, he wouldn't have lied about the documents that he was keeping at Mar-a-lago in the first place. Logic.

The weirdest part is NOW people are Crying its already been declassified....ok where is the Documentation of the Declassification.

IF the Documents were already Declassified why was it not presented to the FBI in June when they went Thru the FIRST search ( again being the 2nd time they came looking for Docs, is really telling to the fact that these documents were not legal.

I mean the Whole point of Declassification is allowing the public to view the info.
Why hasn't the Proof of Declassification and the ACTUAL Documents been release.

 

[Xzi]

The weirdest part is NOW people are Crying its already been declassified....ok where is the Documentation of the Declassification.

IF the Documents were already Declassified why was it not presented to the FBI in June when they went Thru the FIRST search ( again being the 2nd time they came looking for Docs, is really telling to the fact that these documents were not legal.

I mean the Whole point of Declassification is allowing the public to view the info.
Why hasn't the Proof of Declassification and the ACTUAL Documents been release.

Bingo. There would be a paper trail if he had been given the go ahead to declassify the documents, and releasing it would have this whole thing over and done with inside a day. He'd even have grounds to sue the FBI, and we all know how much Trump loves suing anybody and everybody. In his old age he's never been that much of a forward-thinker, however, and I seriously doubt he would've been given the go ahead to declassify any of the top secret documents he took in the first place. There's zero chance they pertain to bigfoot or aliens, and a very good chance that they pertain to US military secrets.