Is the Steam Deck a Game Changer for Nintendos Plans to release another Console?

[TomSwitch]

Nintendos plans to potentially releasing a new console in the coming years?

Nintendo definitely have plan concerning new console, were you thinking that they don't do R&D on HW?

Releasing something requires that it's meets certain standards and these standards can change due to market condition. At this moment those standards are likely to be very very high so the R&D team can't meet it no matter what they do. If Nintendo is under pressure then those standards get lowered.

When standards are high the likes of joycon will never be released. (it's a piece of shit and really lowered my opinion of Nintendo)

 

[TomSwitch]

It's good that steam is still investing in making hardware while failing many times to make an impact. It reminds me of Samsung making lousy phones year after year until they finally started to make kick ass ones.

I think Steam is no where near what Samsung is with phones. Time will tell if they do get there.

 

[Viri]

But the Steam Deck can emulate the Switch.

99% of "normies" aren't going to do that. People who emulate consoles and pirate games are in an extreme minority.

 

[TomSwitch]

99% of "normies" aren't going to do that. People who emulate consoles and pirate games are in an extreme minority.

Not sure about 99% concerning emulation, but those that spend money is probably rare, those that did if for free on a PC is probably quite high. People who spend considerable amount of money relative to their disposable income on being able to bring an imperfect emulation on the road is rare. They could have spend a lot less by buying a Switch and the game they wanted to play on the road.

From time to time we hear about rich people shoplifting. So it is not that surprising that people spend big bucks just to be able to steal from Nintendo something that is worth less.

 

[FiveOVER]

Steam Deck is estimated to have sold a total of 77,000 unit by the end of May, in a period of 4 months.

Switch sells roughly that amount in Japan alone in a single week.
Last year the switch sold a rough average of 443,000 units per week worldwide. And that's not even switch at its peak year.

I think nothing further needs to be said just by looking at these numbers.

https://arstechnica.com/gaming/2022...n-double-this-week-so-lets-estimate-how-many/

 

[Creamu]

Steam Deck is estimated to have sold a total of 77,000 unit by the end of May, in a period of 4 months.

Switch sells roughly that amount in Japan alone in a single week.
Last year the switch sold a rough average of 443,000 units per week worldwide. And that's not even switch at its peak year.

I think nothing further needs to be said just by looking at these numbers.

https://arstechnica.com/gaming/2022...n-double-this-week-so-lets-estimate-how-many/

Does the switch have blast processing?

 

[TomSwitch]

Does the switch have blast processing?

Does Steam deck have official Nintendo support? No real Nintendo fan will buy a more expansive console just to steal from their favorite game company. Nintendo customers probably don't know what is blast processing let alone care about it. Switch have slow and steady processing, does Steam deck have it? Wonderfully long load time that will be sorely missed. The always be able to run the game as the creator finely tuned for the player is probably never going to be replicated. On the other hand anxiety waiting for a game to load for the first time is available on Steam deck, will it run, will it run, oh no, did I do something wrong ...

 

[Creamu]

Does Steam deck have official Nintendo support?

Steam deck has valve support. Get owned!

No real Nintendo fan will buy a more expansive console just to steal from their favorite game company.

No true scottsman fallacy.

Nintendo customers probably don't know what is blast processing let alone care about it.

They havent seen the games.

Switch have slow and steady processing.

Sad

 

[deathblade200]

Nintendo customers probably don't know what is blast processing let alone care about it.

you have made it really clear that you don't for sure. nor owned a sega genesis lol

 

[FiveOVER]

Does the switch have blast processing?

Haha, I understood that reference .gif

Does Steam deck have official Nintendo support? No real Nintendo fan will buy a more expansive console just to steal from their favorite game company. Nintendo customers probably don't know what is blast processing let alone care about it.

Its nintendo's responsibility to prevent their software from being stolen. I dunno if its up to the customers to care or pay any mind to any of that.

 

[TomSwitch]

you have made it really clear that you don't for sure. nor owned a sega genesis lol

Nor care.
Emulated sonic game on the Switch is not bad but not as good as running on a genesis a long time ago. I used to have the real thing, nothing beats the real thing.

Maybe will read about 4090 and what it can do. Will see. May not have enough power and have to upgrade the power supply, that kind of power requirement is not earth friendly.

 

[deathblade200]

I did and it was good but not as good as Nintendo. Like PS4 vs Xbox one. Not sure about PS5 vs XBOX X though, don't own a XBOX X.

you know being a fanboy is real cringe right? I just play games I don't worship a brand

 

[TomSwitch]

you know being a fanboy is real cringe right? I just play games I don't worship a brand

I am a Nintendo fan. That has nothing to do with worship. I like Microsoft too. Sony to a lessor extend.

Intel did good for PC. Sadly have not done much lately. Used to be a fan.

Have many games from Steam, not a fan, they are OK only. The shop is reliable. "not a fan" don't mean I dislike steam. It just means I don't have an expectation to like what they produce.

Steam HW I bought has been fairly good engineering wise but not good enough.

"real cringe" is you?

Being a fan to me means having a certain trust that I will like what they produce. Nothing more.

 

[TomSwitch]

you know being a fanboy is real cringe right? I just play games I don't worship a brand

I don't know you but sound like I have pressed your hot button. What kind of fanboy are you? Maybe the "cringe" kind that just want to hear that Stead deck is the best?

 

[deathblade200]

I don't know you but sound like I have pressed your hot button. What kind of fanboy are you? Maybe the "cringe" kind that just want to hear that Stead deck is the best?

no you just rant and rant without knowing half of what your saying then go " i love nintendo" I'm a fan of games not companies

 

[FiveOVER]

To be absolutely clear on the context in which I posted the unit sale numbers.

The subject of this thread is to what effect the steam deck has on nintendo's future hardware plans. And I posted the numbers to highlight that no, the steam deck will not have any effect on what nintendo's next hardware will be like. Nintendo will do what they think is best to expand their business of a mass market handheld/console hybrid. They will not think that, the steam deck, as an enthusiast device, is suited to be used as reference for their business.

The numbers are not in any shape or form insinuating that the switch is superior to the steam deck or vice versa. They are 2 different class of devices, targeting different target consumers.

 

[TomSwitch]

To be absolutely clear on the context in which I posted the unit sale numbers.

The subject of this thread is to what effect the steam deck has on nintendo's future hardware plans. And I posted the numbers to highlight that no, the steam deck will not have any effect on what nintendo's next hardware will be like. Nintendo will do what they think is best to expand their business of a mass market handheld/console hybrid. They will not think that, the steam deck, as an enthusiast device, is suited to be used as reference for their business.

The numbers are not in any shape or form insinuating that the switch is superior to the steam deck or vice versa. They are 2 different class of devices, targeting different target consumers.

Well said. People have good reason to like what they choose to like, it's a matter of perspective, I find it strange that some people have to say they have a more powerful hardware and you don't in order to feel good.

 

[Xzi]

people like to claim it will but I think it will just remain as stagnant as gamecube/ps2 on switch. hell people like to hide the fact you have to emulate it at a lower resolution to get something somewhat playable

No clue where you got this info, Steam Deck emulates Switch games at its native handheld resolution, full speed and sometimes faster (Link's Awakening at 60 FPS). You can even use docked resolution if you want, though that does predictably hurt performance.

while there are exceptions just like any emulator you HAVE to downscale most games by atleast 0.75x or more so assuming a game is 720P you will be playing at 540P instead

Ah I see where the confusion is coming from. Switch games generally do use a dynamic resolution to be able to run in handheld mode at all, and still struggle to achieve 30 FPS anyway. Emulating them on Steam Deck doesn't change the game's resolution, at least not without mods. It only benefits performance in certain titles.

 

[deathblade200]

No clue where you got this info, Steam Deck emulates Switch games at its native handheld resolution, full speed and sometimes faster (Link's Awakening at 60 FPS). You can even use docked resolution if you want, though that does predictably hurt performance.


Ah I see where the confusion is. Switch games generally do use a dynamic resolution to be able to run in handheld mode at all, and still struggle to achieve 30 FPS anyway. Emulating them on Steam Deck doesn't change the game's resolution, at least not without mods. It only benefits performance in certain titles.

people literally set them to 0.75x or lower in order to make the emulator not suck it does indeed lower the resolution below switch. its not mods its a downscale setting. idk where you get your info from but you are the one confused

 

[TomSwitch]

Gadget fans likes to own hardware and game is just something to do with the hardware. Game don't play well will make the gadget fan angry but playing game really isn't the thing, it's about owning the hardware and feeling good about that ownership.