Joe Biden Wins - Becomes 46th president of the United States

[ghjfdtg]

Sorry - this: https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/20...sent-mass-adjudication-giving-individuals-ma/

Is just crazy conjecture.

"68% error rate (what are we talking about computers, what the eff is 'error rate?') means that 68% of votes are sent for bulk adjudication, which means they collect the ballots in a folder. “The ballots are sent somewhere where people in another location can change the vote,” DePerno explained."

Computers don't make mistakes. Software does

 

[smf]

Computers don't make mistakes. Software does

Nope, computers can malfunction and software does what people tell it to (not what they thought they tell it to).

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I mean for fuck's sake, there are already people that are threatening some of the poll watchers, ballot counters, and their families that have had their identities revealed one way or another.

Yeah, it was so bad for Melissa Carone that she thought she'd deleted her social media because of the threats.

Hear that everyone?!! The only people that died from this insufferable disease were Republicans!

Not the only people. But republicans are more likely to not wear a mask or believe that covid exists, because they received a transmission from god telling them that.

 

[ghjfdtg]

It's very unlikely all of them are malfunctioning though. And yes, the "software does" bit basically extends to human error.

 

[smf]

Except that Trump was well on his way to winning either way until things conveniently "stopped" in the middle of the night, and suddenly, a bunch of votes all came in for Biden! And let's not forget the workers trying to keep poll watchers out and cover the windows to buildings, either!

It suspiciously happens in sports games too. You're watching a game and your team scores, but then something fishy happens and the other team scores more points.

Surely if they let my team score first then my team is better than theirs and they shouldn't be able to score after wards!!!!!!

It's very unlikely all of them are malfunctioning though. And yes, the "software does" bit basically extends to human error.

One would hope they did enough testing to make sure they don't all malfunction.

If they are connected to the internet then it's possible russia used an exploit to inflate Trumps votes. But fortunately they didn't inflate them enough to change the result of the election.

 

[ghjfdtg]

One would hope they did enough testing to make sure they don't all malfunction.

If they are connected to the internet then it's possible russia used an exploit to inflate Trumps votes. But fortunately they didn't inflate them enough to change the result of the election.

Yeah, these machines should not be connected to the internet. But then again, you can infect the machines through USB sticks as well.

I'm sceptical about the result from 2016 but ultimately we had to accept it. Like we (all) have to accept Biden won this time.

 

[djpannda]

Ron Johnson calls election legitimate and acknowledges Biden victory but still plans hearing on alleged 'irregularities'
all of a sudden Republican senators do not know how to ride bicycles... because they back peddling

 

[Driving_duck]

Welp, thats the end to that.

 

[smf]

But then again, you can infect the machines through USB sticks as well.

That starts to become tricky, you need to have people on the ground in a lot of places in the US. Those people would be evidence.

 

[tabzer]

Sorry - this: https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/20...sent-mass-adjudication-giving-individuals-ma/

Is just crazy conjecture.

"68% error rate (what are we talking about computers, what the eff is 'error rate?') means that 68% of votes are sent for bulk adjudication, which means they collect the ballots in a folder. “The ballots are sent somewhere where people in another location can change the vote,” DePerno explained."

Language is important. They are sent to where people can change the votes, means its more than a hypothetical? You have proof for that?

What is this, an effeing deranged magical formula?

"We found 68% error rate" -- error for what?! -- which means bulk adjunction -- "which means computer or people at the other place can change votes"?

What?

Things I want to see in a report like that:

1. What does 68% failure rate mean? Seriously. Dont use that as a trigger term, explain.
2. Dont qualify "what bulk adjunctions means" as that machines or humans can change the vote. What does it mean for the internal voting process? Im sure the description for the people in the voting committee is not 'we do this so machines or people can change the vote later'.
3. if you bring such a statement as a fact and not as a hypothetical (where people or machines could potentially change votes later), then you have proof for that I presume? No?

So all ofh that 'news' is crazy, and I mean crazy, fucking conjecture (someone forcing meaning into a thing, that doesnt mean that thing in the first place).

So is effing 'error rate' to beginn with, if you dont explain - error rate of what? Dont use the term 'error rate' on its own to fish for people rattled by the notion that their democracy is stolen from under their eyes, and make the term itself 'proof' for something that didnt go well.

As said before - if your electoral bodies are too naive to set up a proper democratic election, part of the conclusion is - well I guess, that you arent able to have one. So if someone sees '65% error rate' of something - surely they have a process to deal with that.

Also 'of something' is important as well - what is that?
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Thats followed by camera shots of paper receipts that show 3 people voting, and then 300 people voting - what is that?

Forget the paper receipts, formulate a story of what has happened here - and lets hear both sides.

Dont push photos to social media, label them scandal, OMG 65% error rate, and then let emotion take over starting from the people that have a suspension of disbelieve even down to the level of someone telling them, everything they see is proof of abuse of the electoral system.
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Also just for the final part. Lets presume 65% errorrate is a huge scandal. Error rate means proof of manipulation?

I'm from Indian phone support. We are calling from the company Microsoft. Sir, we are calling because you have a problem. Can you open System viewer and look at the error log? See - there is many errors, see, they all are red. This means, that you are being hacked, dear sir. We from the Microsoft Support noticed, and called you. Would you like the 2 or the 5 year support plan, and what is your credit card information?

Uncanny similarities..
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The point being. Please stop throwing around Smartphone images of paperreceipts and 65% error rate, and 'where machines or humans could change the vote'. Formulate what happened from your point of view. Whole sentences. Congruent stories.

Not just 2-3 Sentence fragments, that all end up at 'we found what we knew was there', sure its not proof, but it proves that something was possible, and then...

And please, stop reading that sh*t at that level.


My believe is, that I have a feeling. That is nonsensical?

I mean, what is this. Is this a guided program for 'people with needs' to live out their 'worries', so they can exercise their demons? Is this the legislative system of the most important country in the world.

Dear Judge, something was done, thats our believe. Either in program. Or probably by someone offsite. My guess is, that it was done offsite, or internally in the program - but one of the two, one of the two definitely?

Seeing how Dominion machines work may supplement what the meaning is behind these terms.

https://streamable.com/yzrypo
https://streamable.com/u7nav7


The error rate is the system's ability to process the ballots. The report gives examples how the same ballots yielded different results and determined a error rate based off of that. Adjudication is manual editing/override. Batch adjudication isn't fully explained--but it wouldn't surprise me if the software allows to mass-edits. Adjudicated ballots should have records, but in the forensic report's case, the 2020 records were missing, but not prior records.

Dominion machines connecting to the internet may allow for remote ajudication, too. I didn't dive that deep into the report.


Oh I see, you weren't even talking about the forensic report.

https://twitter.com/IvanPentchoukov/status/1338505355463188482?s=19

That was a twitter guy who posted his synopsis of the report. The actual forensic report is linked in the first post. There's not a whole lot of departure from what twitter guy says and the findings of the actual report. Of course it'll take 5 more forensic reports from 5 different firms, reporting the same findings before people just say "it's too late anyway".

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He states it as his last proposal. "Lowering costs and expanding health care coverage." Through the federal government? When we're trillions in debt? And do you actually think costs are going to lower? Obama promised the same thing with Obamacare, and look what's happened; you make a trip to the emergency room, and it could come out to costing thousands more dollars if the ER you go to isn't the one your insurance plan covers, not because they don't want to, but because you have taxes, costs, restrictions, and others that get passed down to customers to offset expenses from governments, be it local, state, or federal.

For example, why do game systems cost so much more in other, less fortunate countries? It ultimately comes down to the value of the currency, the real costs of customers buying the systems, games, controllers, etc., and all of the costs that come with importing the system to that country, and if the businesses selling the systems want to make money or break even on the systems, the price will reflect the value of the item on the market. It's part of the reason why a lot of Neo-Geo games like the King of Fighters has, rather infamously, a more Mexican/Brazilian fanbase along with that of whatever support it gets in Japan nowadays; Street Fighter II, and its many different versions back in the day was more expensive, and when one can get an arcade machine that one can easily swap game cartridges in and out of as opposed to how the CPS1 boards were set up (I'm pretty confident they weren't using something like the CPS Charger for CPS1 games iirc), the biggest investment is merely the arcade machines, followed by the games themselves. Companies made their money back on these machines thanks to arcade difficulty being to encourage players to keep putting coins in the machine to continue.

It's the same principal; what might be $500 in the US will be $2000 in Peru, or wherever. That's why, when people say that we have it good here in the US, they really do mean that we have it good as these systems are relatively affordable, when stock isn't dropping like a rock thanks to the supply chain being strained due to fears over a virus that has had so much misinformation about by intention and accident that it's created a situation where trust in institutions of government, especially of the more authoritarian variety, is plummeting.

Didn't you read what @AmandaRose said?

Universal Health Care is terrible especially here in Scotland where absolutely everything is 100% free.

 

[KingVamp]

For now, looks like marriage equality is safe.

 

[djpannda]

For now, looks like marriage equality is safe.

part of me hope half of the supreme Justices retired the day Biden is sworn in.. lolol

 

[Master X]

You know, I'm starting to understand why some Trump supporters are so insistent that he won. They don't want to admit to the fact that they just pissed away a fuck ton of money gambling. Certainly a explanation for how a Biden victory is going to result in people losing their lifes savings.

https://www.rawstory.com/2020/12/tr...ds-of-thousands-in-political-betting-markets/

Still, ~36 days left until inauguration. Plenty of time to take out a loan and place another bet or two. Who knows, you could experience so much winning that even Trump himself would be in awe.

 

[notimp]

Seeing how Dominion machines work may supplement what the meaning is behind these terms.

https://streamable.com/yzrypo
https://streamable.com/u7nav7


The error rate is the system's ability to process the ballots. The report gives examples how the same ballots yielded different results and determined a error rate based off of that. Adjudication is manual editing/override. Batch adjudication isn't fully explained--but it wouldn't surprise me if the software allows to mass-edits. Adjudicated ballots should have records, but in the forensic report's case, the 2020 records were missing, but not prior records.

Got it. Something went wrong in OCR, so they had to do manual checkups on 65% of ballots. Seems a bit high for a working system, but hey.

So you get two people in a room, one representing every party, and go through the ballots (300 are in question?), and check them by hand.

(Slight problem that you do this based on scans and not on paper ballots (*jesus*) but lets say, not all that bad.)

Next year you throw out the voting system for good please...

Integrity of the vote still preserved.
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Two comments - no failsafes on 'person voted for two people' is understandable, if you got elections, where more than one 'thing' can be checked per ballot. You want the system to work in that case as well.

No failsafes in case of 'nothing' checked on the ballot is understandable, because - well self explanatory really.

So now your main argument becomes - supervisor can override the votes.

Which means, you trusted the machine more, to get them right, than the humans running the election office? Which is the opposite of what Trumps lawyers said?

So now its not dominions machines changing the votes from Nicaragua, sorry Venezuela, now its the people that actually have to do the vote counting (adjudication) by hand?

Again - some of this comes down to -- 'problem sits in front of screen', and if you are too dumb to have democratic elections.

Also - the 65% error rate. Really means you should throw out the systems (if nothing was visibly wrong with those ballots). In fact, in general, just throw the stuff out and vote on paper ballets and count manually - then you have less layers that could go wrong, and at least everyone understands whats happening.

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[djpannda]

You know, I'm starting to understand why some Trump supporters are so insistent that he won. They don't want to admit to the fact that they just pissed away a fuck ton of money gambling. Certainly a explanation for how a Biden victory is going to result in people losing their lifes savings.

https://www.rawstory.com/2020/12/tr...ds-of-thousands-in-political-betting-markets/

Still, ~36 days left until inauguration. Plenty of time to take out a loan and place another bet or two. Who knows, you could experience so much winning that even Trump himself would be in awe.

I was reading a simlar report.. the lady in England bet around $250,000 on Trump winning ... I think it even said she calling Republicans legislators to have them fight it lol

 

[AmandaRose]

Didn't you read what @AmandaRose said?

And once again you edit a quote to take away the actual meaning of what I posted which was

 

[tabzer]

And once again you edit a quote to take away the actual meaning of what I posted which was

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I just posted the stupid part. Everyone knew what you meant.

I didn't "remove meaning". That's silly.

The government taxes people and then uses that money to pay for the most ridiculous things, like Obama's "hot dog party". That needs straightening out.

 

[kingaz]

I just posted the stupid part. Everyone knew what you meant.

I didn't "remove meaning". That's silly.

You did remove meaning. The full post incidates that AmandaRose was being sarcastic. Quoting the opening part alone makes it look like they were legitimately saying that universal healthcare is terrible. They meant the exact opposite.

Also, are you arguing with the actual poster that they meant something different than they said?

What is wrong with you?

 

[tabzer]

You did remove meaning. The full post incidates that AmandaRose was being sarcastic. Quoting the opening part alone makes it look like they were legitimately saying that universal healthcare is terrible. They meant the exact opposite.

Also, are you arguing with the actual poster that they meant something different than they said?

What is wrong with you?

Lol. Yeah that makes it look a lot stupider but read what I posted it in response to.

Then tell me what you read from it.

 

[omgcat]

You know, I'm starting to understand why some Trump supporters are so insistent that he won. They don't want to admit to the fact that they just pissed away a fuck ton of money gambling. Certainly a explanation for how a Biden victory is going to result in people losing their lifes savings.

https://www.rawstory.com/2020/12/tr...ds-of-thousands-in-political-betting-markets/

Still, ~36 days left until inauguration. Plenty of time to take out a loan and place another bet or two. Who knows, you could experience so much winning that even Trump himself would be in awe.

it's insanity on predictit. like up until last week, it was 83c Biden yes, which is basically free money.

also i love watching trump burn down the GOP on his way out.

Trump is pocketing Georgia Senate runoff donations for his PAC, while the GOP candidates themselves don't get a dollar


hell the trumpers are fucking up the GOP everywhere

'I do not feel safe': Kansas GOP mayor resigns after threats over backing mask mandate

 

[Iamapirate]

Although it makes me feel sick to know a senile old man will be President and a fake as hell ghoulish senator will be his Vice President, I'm at least somewhat at ease knowing midterm elections are historically bad for the incumbent. The amount of buyer's remorse towards this administration will be immense, and I will not be surprised if President to-be Kamala is challenged in the 2024 primary because let's face it - Biden won't run for re-election. I'm guessing resignation in the first two years.

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biden already did improve the power of united states by erase the biggest loser of all time.

Just pointing out here Biden has officially lost more presidential elections than Trump.