Hacking Suggestion Vita2sd like device for switch?

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Not if you only get switch games.

With homebrew and the switch's hardware, emulators, media players and the likes will demand more space.
Emulators and their games realistically take up next to no space, especially the ones that would come out first. Homebrew likewise, unless we're talking SIGNIFICANT game mods. Media players, I'd just recommend letting them live on the SD card and then storing the actual media on a flash drive
 

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Emulators and their games realistically take up next to no space, especially the ones that would come out first. Homebrew likewise, unless we're talking SIGNIFICANT game mods. Media players, I'd just recommend letting them live on the SD card and then storing the actual media on a flash drive

True. Except for portability you would actually store your media files on the switch itself. As for emulation, I've filled up a 128gb memory card for my retropie build.
 

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Just putting this out there.

The vita with CFW allowed for the use of a specialised sd card cartridge adapter called the vita2sd.

With the switch pretty much being blown open this summer, it might be a good idea to get investigate the feasibility of such a feature for the switch as well.

Thoughts?

EDIT: Some of you asked why do you even need this? Simple. More memory. It might be more cost effective when you get 2x 128gb micro sd cards as opposed to just one 200gb memory card and etc etc
What would it even do? The only storage input that the switch has is microSD.
 

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People are still forgetting to factor cost per GB. In Brazil the best price per GB are in 32gb microSD, 64gb are way expensive for us (the price drops that happened in the US on those didn't apply to our stock here), and anything from 120gb and up is only feasible if we can get a "traveling friend" to informally import, evading importing taxes and paying the price that is offered on amazon.
So if I can get a cheap format adapter to use the cartridge slot as memory expansion for homebrew, I'm into it. Extra 323gb for cheap x way expensive 200gb (in Brazilian prices).
 

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Except it will be cost prohibitive.

There is a 100tb ssd in existence but does it mean we can all afford it suddenly? No. If the cost per GB for micro sd does not scale up for higher capacity cards, then this hypothetical adapter will be useless.
The effort to make a chip then the work on programming side to redirect to read the game card slot is too much. It took years for PS Vita to get one designed. And it's only worth the effort because Sony stupid Vita exclusive memory card is overpriced. The developer after getting even from their investment pull the plug on sd2vita making as there are mass cheap production of alternatives.

With Switch, who would want to put so much effort into making one, for very smaller part of community? There would be no sufficient donation thus unlikely to be able to get even from the investment out of their pocket since the next days Chinese factory would mass produce them and price out. You can't spend the difference in price between the memory card, I have doubt you would donate enough to help with the project.
 

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It should work in the form of having an additional drive. Kinda like how you plug in a flash drive on the dock except with this type of adapter, everything is inside the switch itself.
The switch couldn't fit that in there! Also, that would probably require major hardware and software modification, not just plugging something in there. Unless you mean SD2NAND or something, which would be a lot easier since the switch's NAND is clipped in.
 

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The effort to make a chip then the work on programming side to redirect to read the game card slot is too much. It took years for PS Vita to get one designed. And it's only worth the effort because Sony stupid Vita exclusive memory card is overpriced. The developer after getting even from their investment pull the plug on sd2vita making as there are mass cheap production of alternatives.

With Switch, who would want to put so much effort into making one, for very smaller part of community? There would be no sufficient donation thus unlikely to be able to get even from the investment out of their pocket since the next days Chinese factory would mass produce them and price out. You can't spend the difference in price between the memory card, I have doubt you would donate enough to help with the project.

It didn't take years for one to get designed. It took years before someone started to design. That is a very important distinction

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The switch couldn't fit that in there! Also, that would probably require major hardware and software modification, not just plugging something in there. Unless you mean SD2NAND or something, which would be a lot easier since the switch's NAND is clipped in.

I meant making a micro sd card adapter in the form factor of the original switch carts. Obviously this won't work out of the box but will require kernel side modifications.
 

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Just putting this out there.

The vita with CFW allowed for the use of a specialised sd card cartridge adapter called the vita2sd.

With the switch pretty much being blown open this summer, it might be a good idea to get investigate the feasibility of such a feature for the switch as well.

Thoughts?

EDIT: Some of you asked why do you even need this? Simple. More memory. It might be more cost effective when you get 2x 128gb micro sd cards as opposed to just one 200gb memory card and etc etc
It might be nice to have 2 MicroSD slots, but I don't think the time and effort put into engineering something like this and writing the software to make it work would seem worth it to devs when there is already a perfectly good MicroSD slot. It's one thing writing software, but actually designing hardware and having it mass produced is a whole other beast.
That said, maybe one of the devs thinks the same thing as you and ends up creating it.

Plus, 200GB memory cards are so cost effective right now that you probably wouldn't be saving anything when you factor in the cost of the adapter. You wouldn't be saving a whole lot with 2x128GB compared to a 256GB card either.
And how much space do you really need? I can't see myself needing more than 256GB for years even if I hack my Switch, at which point they will be much cheaper. Switch games aren't that huge.
 
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It didn't take years for one to get designed. It took years before someone started to design. That is a very important distinction

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I meant making a micro sd card adapter in the form factor of the original switch carts. Obviously this won't work out of the box but will require kernel side modifications.
Sticking STORAGE in the cart slot? I highly doubt that would be possible and would probably require hardware mods as well.
 
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The only reason SD2Vita was sought after was because of the (very) expensive proprietary Vita memory cards.

With the switch natively supporting microSD there's really not a good reason to pursue any SD2Switch type solution.
Actually there would be a big reason for me to use a cartridge to micro SD adapter...

I want is emunand on the SD, but since Switch games have a lot of GB like ZELDA, even a expensive 128GB Micro SD runs out of space very fast and I wouldnt want to buy like 10 and have to backup the emunand everytime and copy the data to all SD cards...

On the other hand if I could have one 64GB fast Micro SD just for emunand, it would stay in the console 4 ever and I would keep changing only the Micro SD in the cartdridge with the installed games, so all my saves\data would always be on the same emunand M-SD and I would only change the game installation M-SD.
Sticking STORAGE in the cart slot? I highly doubt that would be possible and would probably require hardware mods as well.
Well... Team-Xecuter is a hardware mod, and they will probably be able to do it... I remember in the Xbox original they used to sell LCD's with custom info from their chip too...

a Cartdridge to SD in it self would be a hardware mod... I don't think it will be just pins from the cartridge to SD...
 
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It didn't take years for one to get designed. It took years before someone started to design. That is a very important distinction
LOL. Basically the developers are lazy argument when one can't get thing their way.
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Yifanlu blog was there for you to check how long before the first sketch of adapter and prototype then final product was made.
 

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It might be nice to have 2 MicroSD slots, but I don't think the time and effort put into engineering something like this and writing the software to make it work would seem worth it to devs when there is already a perfectly good MicroSD slot. It's one thing writing software, but actually designing hardware and having it mass produced is a whole other beast.
That said, maybe one of the devs thinks the same thing as you and ends up creating it.

Plus, 200GB memory cards are so cost effective right now that you probably wouldn't be saving anything when you factor in the cost of the adapter. You wouldn't be saving a whole lot with 2x128GB compared to a 256GB card either.
And how much space do you really need? I can't see myself needing more than 256GB for years even if I hack my Switch, at which point they will be much cheaper. Switch games aren't that huge.

Yeah, but the thing is. People don't hack for profit (obviously we're not talking about TX). I just thought it might be a good idea to kinda get the ball rolling since coming summer will be when everything starts to blow up.
You aren't saving a terrible amount by getting 2x of a smaller card but to some of us, every bit helps. The money you save here might go into the really sweet custom transparent shells for the switch.

Sticking STORAGE in the cart slot? I highly doubt that would be possible and would probably require hardware mods as well.

It works for the Sony PS Vita. Yeah, you would have to get a hardware adapter after it is designed and produced.

Actually there would be a big reason for me to use a cartridge to micro SD adapter...

I want is emunand on the SD, but since Switch games have a lot of GB like ZELDA, even a expensive 128GB Micro SD runs out of space very fast and I wouldnt want to buy like 10 and have to backup the emunand everytime and copy the data to all SD cards...

On the other hand if I could have one 64GB fast Micro SD just for emunand, it would stay in the console 4 ever and I would keep changing only the Micro SD in the cartdridge with the installed games, so all my saves\data would always be on the same emunand M-SD and I would only change the game installation M-SD.

Well... Team-Xecuter is a hardware mod, and they will probably be able to do it... I remember in the Xbox original they used to sell LCD's with custom info from their chip too...

a Cartdridge to SD in it self would be a hardware mod... I don't think it will be just pins from the cartridge to SD...

Finally someone who get its. You get the purpose of this "hardware mod/addon"
 

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I may miss other post, but the big question here is:

IS OP PLANNING ON PIRATING THE SHITE OUT OF SWITCH?

I meant for back up purpose of their own games, 128GB even paying more in GB per dollar rate to get 200GB+, one can afford. You bought cartridge games on sale to save -> back up so you can games some in one place when travel. You access to your full library at home. In long run, the bigger memory card worth it.

The way Op put it, where he deemed to risk to damage the cartridge reader so he can offset higher GB to Dollar cost, only make sense if one never buy game. If one already afford buying digital version from Nintento shop, there is no point of backing up
 

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It works for the Sony PS Vita. Yeah, you would have to get a hardware adapter after it is designed and produced.
Now hang on, let's not make false equivalences here; the Vita's, if I understand correctly, replaces the proprietary memory card, which is already used for system storage already. The game card slot, on the other hand, is only designed to be accessed once it's launched from a shortcut on the home menu, in the case of both the Switch and the Vita
 

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