Homebrew Nintendo now has a 3DS bug bounty page open

[Ra1d]

How dare hackers attempt to get money instead of making free stuff

I mean you would probably get more selling the exploit than reporting it to Nintendo

 

[gamefan5]

I recently bought a secondhand console on 2.1.0-4U, In 2016. So yeah. There are people who've NEVER used the online functionality of the console AT ALL.
Afaik, o3ds could be shipped with that version that had the browser enabled without updating said system.

I am not surprised. There was a time where one of my 3ds has never used online at all.

 

[fodder]

Incorrect. Purchasing a system means you are purchasing the right to use the system as the manufacturer intended. The EULA covers this, and when you hit "I agree", you are legally obligated to abide by the agreement. You don't own the system, the manufacturer does.

Proof? I'm fairly certain that only applies to software, or with things like confidential hardware that a developer or something would use, I'm pretty sure that Nintendo (and all, if not most other companies) don't license you the hardware, they license the software, thus why jailbreaking is legal for the most part and whatnot

also just skimmed thru the 3DS EULA, said nothing about license to use hardware, just software, unless I missed it

 

[driverdis]

Also remember how nintendo has been pushing the VC these last gens? If that's a trend they tend to continue, they could use a touchscreen to emulate the wiimote's pointer, DS and 3DS's touchscreen, etc. Otherwise they'd be limited to the usual NES/SNES/N64/GCN if that's ever possible/GB/GBC/GBA.

What VC? look how bare the VC lineup for Wii U is compared to Wii. When Rare Replay launched on Xbox One, it had more N64 games then Nintendo did on the Wii U at the time, which was sad as the Wii had a passable selection of N64 games.
The N64 library has since grown on Wii U but still is really small when comparared to Sony's PS1 VC and PS2 VC lineup on PS3 and PS4 (via the scam of the decade called Playstation Now if on PS4)

 

[Raylight]

What VC? look how bare the VC lineup for Wii U is compared to Wii. When Rare Replay launched on Xbox One, it had more N64 games then Nintendo did on the Wii U at the time, which was sad as the Wii had a passable selection of N64 games.
The N64 library has since grown on Wii U but still is really small when comparared to Sony's PS1 VC and PS2 VC lineup on PS3 and PS4 (via the scam of the decade called Playstation Now if on PS4)

instead of having a separate team for VC they squander it. Nintendo could make a ton on a VC machine alone

 

[nooby89]

If they found a way to block a9lh... RAAAHHHH

 

[gamefan5]

Proof? I'm fairly certain that only applies to software, or with things like confidential hardware that a developer or something would use, I'm pretty sure that Nintendo (and all, if not most other companies) don't license you the hardware, they license the software, thus why jailbreaking is legal for the most part and whatnot

also just skimmed thru the 3DS EULA, said nothing about license to use hardware, just software, unless I missed it

You are right.

Fun fact is that reading it further shows that that they reserve the right to permanently disable your 3ds if content obtained thru unauthorized modifications is present. XD

Just that sentence renders all arguments about why Pirates should not have gotten their 3ds banned, moot.

 

[driverdis]

If they found a way to block a9lh... RAAAHHHH

it is simple, release a new revision of motherboard that does not work with A9LH. it is not that hard, Sony did this with the PSP after the Pandora battery, Battery serial number editing, and custom IPL stuff.

After, they can release a bunch of limited edition consoles everyone would want then change the location of the connectors so the motherboard cannot be swapped from an older console.

 

[Alex658]

it is simple, release a new revision of motherboard that does not work with A9LH. it is not that hard, Sony did this with the PSP after the Pandora battery, Battery serial number editing, and custom IPL stuff.

They released 9 different motherboards across the PSP's lifetime XD
BUT, in the end all could be broken apart and hacked. With the exception of only earlier models getting permanent coldboot, while the others getting softmodded only.
At least until infinity came along.

 

[driverdis]

They released 9 different motherboards across the PSP's lifetime XD
BUT, in the end all could be broken apart and hacked. With the exception of only earlier models getting permanent coldboot, while the others getting softmodded only.
At least until infinity came along.

softmodded, as in they patched coldboot methods. This would work for killing off A9LH installs on newer motherboards and can prevent downgrading as they can make older firmwares not work on newer boards, which Sony did also as you cannot downgrade some newer PSP motherboards to a version older than it shipped with or it would brick.

 

[GerbilSoft]

O and the Dreamcast ran on windows, so it wasn't really that hard to "hack". This system existed just around the time gaming piracy actually became a thing, so security wasn't actually all that great

No, it didn't. (Certain games included a copy of Windows CE on disc because the programmers were lazy, but the majority of games didn't use Windows CE.)

Dreamcast was hacked easily because of an intentional backdoor left in by Sega for the "MIL CD" format.

 

[Sketchy1]

True, they can patch it out. But who says they have to reveal all their 3ds consoles? Hahaha they may have another console without Nintendo realizing it XD

Lml ik I said that already

 

[Alex658]

softmodded, as in they patched coldboot methods. This would work for killing off A9LH installs on newer motherboards and can prevent downgrading as they can make older firmwares not work on newer boards, which Sony did also as you cannot downgrade some newer PSP motherboards to a version older than it shipped with or it would brick.

Honestly, when the N3DS came along i though that would have been the case, it would have NEVER crossed my head that something like the 2.1 downgrade was even possible. (since if you didn't fix the NAND to be recognized as O3DS, your N3DS would brick).
N3DS shipped with 8.1, Back then something like having it on 2.1 (O3DS only FW) was a mere dream.

 

[driverdis]

No, it didn't. (Certain games included a copy of Windows CE on disc because the programmers were lazy, but the majority of games didn't use Windows CE.)

Dreamcast was hacked easily because of an intentional backdoor left in by Sega for the "MIL CD" format.

That was an epic fail on Sega's part. reminds me of Nintendo when they left the commands to read DVDs on the older Wii drives for the abandoned DVD playback functionality, which lead to softmodded consoles running Gamecube and Wii disc copies without a drivechip. All the Wii's I have are under LU64 for Bootmii and have an older drive for DVD backups for the rare time I need to read one.

 

[Sketchy1]

No, it didn't. (Certain games included a copy of Windows CE on disc because the programmers were lazy, but the majority of games didn't use Windows CE.)

Dreamcast was hacked easily because of an intentional backdoor left in by Sega for the "MIL CD" format.

Shit your right, it did. Just checked the Dreamcast I had in my closet, and I remembered seeing sth with windows on it. On double check, it says "COMPATIBLE WITH windows CE" plastered right on the front. Meaning just compatible, not ran on. Thx

 

[BORTZ]

Too little too late, N dawg.

 

[NEO117]

I almost want to find a way to patch the whole Freeshop thing so I can get easy monies. Almost. Too lazy.

 

[DJ91990]

We are safe and likely will be for a while. Just make sure you have hardmod whever updating or wait until confirmed safe

^THIS

This should always be a thing before updating if you use CFW, as any system update could potentially soft-brick the system if you have CFW installed.

Before you say; "Nintendo can't do this!" They can, and the EULA warns against this.
"...any unauthorized modification or software...will render your 3DS System or games inoperable"

The 3DS in the more recent 11.2 Firmware - without CFW - has something called PASLR - Physical Address Space Layout Randomization.
This is what prevents homebrew on 11.2 right now. You know how in old games, you can use a trainer to locate an address that controls current health?
Well, with Address Space Layout Randomization, every frame, the address that controls current health is shuffled to a different point in memory, and the ASLR program feeds that new offset to the game run-time so the game doesn't lose it's shit and crash.


A super-simplified way to think of it is this;
Say you're in a Minecraft Server. You store your diamonds in a chest. You then have Admin commands to move that chest's location to a random position in X/Y ~1,000 You are then given a written book containing the exact position of that chest. Every in-game Minecraft day, the chest's location is changed again, and the text in the written book is updated so you can find it. It's sorta like that.

 

[BADDINOROX99]

I wonder why so late in the 3ds's life?
Honestly how much time do we have left like 6 more months and then that's it

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[Sketchy1]

I wonder why so late in the 3ds's life?
Honestly how much time do we have left like 6 more months and then that's it

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That is the main question ATM. And also y not the wiiu?