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I personally would be okay with pirating to my heart's content, but me being the law-abiding citizen I am, I get scared from even trying to pirate something...even if chances of being caught are very low. I don't think of it as theft, but to me it's ok if there's absolutely no chance of you getting caught.
 

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well it does the same thing as buying used games or not buying the game at all and not pirating it and those arent illegal but piracy encouges people not to buy the game while used games and not buying the game at all and not pirating does not and its not realy stealing is just copying some ones game that some one else bought your not stealing an object your copying it but the problem is the game won't sell if it was legal so they had to make it illegal and it would not work thats why there are laws because things will not work with out them. there is copy protection so only people who can hack can do it so its not even a problem because only the small pecentage of people who can hack affect it and only buy a little but

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in short it does the same thing as used games and people not buying the game at all and not pirating it but if you made used games illegal it would not be fair as people would not be able to make money of their old games or give them to a firend
 
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Murder laws are invalid. They infringe upon my right to freely express myself
Murder violates another persons property (their own body) me copying a sequence of 1's and 0's in my own home does not infringe on anyone's rights, nor does it deprive anything from anyone else.

If I use my own ink, and my own paper, and copy the words from a book; have I deprived the original owner of anything? Of course I have not. To say that "No, you cannot write down those words, because someone has written them down before you" is a violation of my property rights.
 

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Murder violates another persons property (their own body) me copying a sequence of 1's and 0's in my own home does not infringe on anyone's rights, nor does it deprive anything from anyone else.

If I use my own ink, and my own paper, and copy the words from a book; have I deprived the original owner of anything? Of course I have not. To say that "No, you cannot write down those words, because someone has written them down before you" is a violation of my property rights.
Actually yes, Yes it does. Those 1's and 0's are your bank account number. Your name. Your nudes. Your everything. People don't understand binary neither would they care. Yet just to point out that those 1's and 0's are your everything xD
 
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Actually yes, Yes it does. Those 1's and 0's are your bank account number. Your name. Your nudes. Your everything. People don't understand binary neither would they care. Yet just to point out that those 1's and 0's are your everything xD

If someone copies my SSN, then they are impersonating me and committing fraud; this violates my property rights.

If I copy a book with my own ink and paper, I am neither depriving the creator from their copy, nor am I taking anything from anyone else.
 
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If someone copies my SSN, then they are impersonating me and committing fraud; this violates my property rights.

If I copy a book with my own ink and paper, I am neither depriving the creator from their copy, nor am I taking anything from anyone else.
Yes but you're copying their thoughts. Which in turn means you're copying their work. They own it. They deal with the contents them selves.
 

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Yes but you're copying their thoughts. Which in turn means you're copying their work. They own it. They deal with the contents them selves.

"they own it" no, they don't. You cannot own an idea. However, to say that I can't do whatever I want with my own property (assuming it doesn't violate someone else's rights) is saying that you are a co-owner of my property and can tell me what I can and cannot do with it.
 

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"they own it" no, they don't. You cannot own an idea. However, to say that I can't do whatever I want with my own property (assuming it doesn't violate someone else's rights) is saying that you are a co-owner of my property and can tell me what I can and cannot do with it.
If they publish an idea then yes, they do own it. And you have to sight the source in a bibliography. Or you can face a hefty fine and even be expelled from your school!
 
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It's all corporate greed companies push out garbage that actually profit off the brainwashed. Plus they keep jacking up the prices of everything. Some Movies & Games do deserve the money for their hard work but at the same time don't make everything too limited like limited edition game because the scalping does encourage pirating companies should learn this lesson. Companies should be held responsible for promoting garbage.
 

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It's all corporate greed companies push out garbage that actually profit off the brainwashed. Plus they keep jacking up the prices of everything. Some Movies & Games do deserve the money for their hard work but at the same time don't make everything too limited like limited edition game because the scalping does encourage pirating companies should learn this lesson. Companies should be held responsible for promoting garbage.
Agreed.
 

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If they publish an idea then yes, they do own it. And you have to sight the source in a bibliography. Or you can face a hefty fine and even be expelled from your school!
So, according to your logic, Richard Dawkins owns the word "meme" since he first published it in his book. And he has a right to prevent us from using this word? Does he have a right to extort money out of us from using it? For what period of time? What are the conditions?

Do you see how arbitrary all of this is? All of the above are not hypotheticals, I want to hear your answers.
 
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So, according to your logic, Richard Dawkins owns the word "meme" since he first published it in his book. And he has a right to prevent us from using this word? Does he have a right to extort money out of us from using it? For what period of time? What are the conditions?

Do you see how arbitrary all of this is? All of the above are not hypotheticals, I want to hear your answers.
Well duh ofcourse not. That's logic. But a scientific discovery that was published in a book should never be sighted by anyone. And the person who discovered it was useless and didn't find it xD

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There are a lot of posts on this and varying opinions.

Myself I believe that media should be free and available to everyone so it can be enjoyed by all people regardless of their financial status or ability to buy it. Knowledge to the people is power and removing said knowledge via censorship and laws is weakening said knowledge towards the people...
Devs need to eat too.

I certainly wouldn't take time out of my day to work on something for free. The world doesn't work like that.
 
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Well duh ofcourse not. That's logic. But a scientific discovery that was published in a book should never be sighted by anyone. And the person who discovered it was useless and didn't find it xD

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So scientific discoveries aren't owned, but patterns of words can be owned? Please tell me more about your arbitrary rules, and your justifications for them.
 
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