Hacking [Release] rxTools - Roxas75 3DS Toolkit [fw 2.0 - 9.2]

[nccom]

Piracy still hasn't been enabled for emunands so he will be first if he decides to do it...and imo he shouldn't do it just because some lazy kids are begging for this.
Pasta CFW "creator" obviously can't make emunand support since he doesn't know anything about that stuff and can only compile patches from pastebin.

 

[dubbz82]

Piracy still hasn't been enabled for emunands so he will be first if he decides to do it...and imo he shouldn't do it just because some lazy kids are begging for this.
Pasta CFW "creator" obviously can't make emunand support since he doesn't know anything about that stuff and can only compile patches from pastebin.

In b4 inevitable piracy debate...

 

[pakrett]

Btw, i restarted coding today. I had to rewrite the console printing code, and made rxMode boot in the first place.
You'll be able to access rxTools by pressing R.
Also i restyled the menu a bit, making it more 8bit-style. I was also thinking on a customization theme options.

Homebrews in the next release ?

 

[WhoAmI?]

No, he was asking because we were under the impression Roxas's stance on enabling piracy was that he didn't want to be the first, but after that was uncertain.

Perhaps... Look at it this way - if Roxas enables piracy via rxTools, anyone will be able to pirate as long as they have the appropriate firmware version, unlike PASTA which requires a copy of Ninjhax or Sky... Either way, a user would have to fork out $40+ just to run PASTA. If Roxas enables piracy, it'll be a completely free way to piracy as Ninjhax wouldn't be required.

Conclusion: If Roxas enables signature checks, there will be even more piracy than what there already is - meaning that Roxas would be just as bad as the dude who made PASTA... Would Roxas really want that pressure? I dunno...

 

[Apache Thunder]

Perhaps... Look at it this way - if Roxas enables piracy via rxTools, anyone will be able to pirate as long as they have the appropriate firmware version, unlike PASTA which requires a copy of Ninjhax or Sky... Either way, a user would have to fork out $40+ just to run PASTA. If Roxas enables piracy, it'll be a completely free way to piracy as Ninjhax wouldn't be required.

Conclusion: If Roxas enables signature checks, there will be even more piracy than what there already is - meaning that Roxas would be just as bad as the dude who made PASTA... Would Roxas really want that pressure? I dunno...

Well the way I see things is there's really only a few things one can't use with Pasta currently. There's a BIG difference between what you can do with pasta and what one could have done with the really old 4.x CFW that's been out for ages. So the leap from Pasta and one that would have emunand isn't as big. And it seems a version might come out soon that might have eShop NIM patched to fool it into thinking it's latest firmware or a CIA that does this might also just do that. So the distinction might shrink even further.

A lot of the limitations involve n3DS users who can't boot some games that use newer encryption keys that only the n3DS has. o3DS users more or less have access to 99% of available games for the 3DS now. So rxTools having signing checks disabled won't really put a dent in that. keep in mind the rxTools is primarily focused on the o3DS because Roxas doesn't have a n3DS.

 

[JPnintendo]

Hey roxas, did you fix (or try to) that error which updates the sysnand while in RX-E mode? Thanks! Keep it up.

 

[WhoAmI?]

Well the way I see things is there's really only a few things one can't use with Pasta currently. There's a BIG difference between what you can do with pasta and what one could have done with the really old 4.x CFW that's been out for ages. So the leap from Pasta and one that would have emunand isn't as big. And it seems a version might come out soon that might have eShop NIM patched to fool it into thinking it's latest firmware or a CIA that does this might also just do that. So the distinction might shrink even further.

A lot of the limitations involve n3DS users who can't boot some games that use newer encryption keys that only the n3DS has. o3DS users more or less have access to 99% of available games for the 3DS now. So rxTools having signing checks disabled won't really put a dent in that. keep in mind the rxTools is primarily focused on the o3DS because Roxas doesn't have a n3DS.

True, either way - not everyone can afford a flash card or CN, which in turn makes piracy levels a lot lower than what they would be. If someone could go straight to a second hand store and buy an o3ds - instant piracy with no extra money involved. I guess the high prices on CN and Flashcards is what's keeping piracy levels a lot lower... Just think if everyone could easily pirate on O3DS... Big profit loss for Nintendo, if everyones doing it - right?

 

[dubbz82]

Conclusion: If Roxas enables signature checks, there will be even more piracy than what there already is - meaning that Roxas would be just as bad as the dude who made PASTA... Would Roxas really want that pressure? I dunno...

Here's some numbers to throw down to give you a better grip on how insignificant your "Conclusion" is... Total number of registered users on gbatemp, as of time of writing is some 316,000 accounts. The vast majority of those are likely accounts that have been inactive for a while. Of the remaining accounts, there's a good chunk that are here for other consoles, such as wii-u, and also a good chunk that plain out and don't care about piracy. Then there's also a chunk of them that are already covered by other things such as Pasta firmware, Sky3ds, gateway, etc. Current 3ds sales are a little over 50 million units last I checked, so that'd be at WORST case, the better portion of ONE PERCENT of the user base that might have an interest in piracy (in all reality, it's likely FAR below that). In the grand scheme of things, that's not very significant, especially considering that most of the pirates I know at least, are some of the heaviest consumers of media. Your "conclusion" doesn't cooperate very well with math.

True, either way - not everyone can afford a flash card or CN, which in turn makes piracy levels a lot lower than what they would be. If someone could go straight to a second hand store and buy an o3ds - instant piracy with no extra money involved. I guess the high prices on CN and Flashcards is what's keeping piracy levels a lot lower... Just think if everyone could easily pirate on O3DS... Big profit loss for Nintendo, if everyones doing it - right?

Wrong. See my above explanation. You're somehow being blindsided by the fact that compared to total 3ds owners, there's actually VERY few people comparatively that are aware this place exists, even fewer that want to pirate, and are willing to void their warranty on their console in order to do so, and even fewer that are willing to run the risks of pirating 3ds games.

 

[nccom]

So the leap from Pasta and one that would have emunand isn't as big

It will be huge. Pasta doesn't have emunand support so you have to find a way to update to 9.x (buying a game basically) and it doesn't run from mset or spider so again you need CN or sky to run it.
Patching sig checks in RX will allow everyone to run pirated games without any special requirements and such uncontrolled piracy is very bad imo...at least for Nintendo. Don't forget that there is a whole world outside of gbatemp's annoying begging kids and opening the floodgates of piracy for the world will really hurt Nintendo's profits, which in turn means less free games for us who have money to buy gw

 

[nccom]

Here's some numbers to throw down to give you a better grip on how insignificant your "Conclusion" is... Total number of registered users on gbatemp, as of time of writing is some 316,000 accounts. The vast majority of those are likely accounts that have been inactive for a while.

Wrong. See my above explanation. You're somehow being blindsided by the fact that compared to total 3ds owners, there's actually VERY few people comparatively that are aware this place exists.

Oh please, use common sense There are thousands of lurkers here and information from gbatemp will be spread to another forums like maxconsole and local chinese/europe/russian/whatever forums. There are numerous videogames shops in third world countries which will use that info to install pirated games for a small fee or to sell more consoles.

 

[williamcesar2]

the one who is a pirate do not buy games anyway. Stop pathetic argument!

 

[TidusWulf]

I'm not gonna defend pirates, but I will say that I always buy my games used (they're just cheaper that way) so unfortunately, developers never get my money anyway :/

 

[Scarftail]

So, I have three 3DSs. On one of them, when I try to dump SecureInfo_A using rxTools, it tells me "Dumping...cannot read from file. Press A to exit." On the other two, rxTools fails to even boot and instead it freezes and there are graphical artifacts on the bottom screen. Anyone know what's going on here? All 3DSs are below v9.2.

 

[DjoeN]

rxTools should stay rxTools a way to dump tickets etc..., not a custom CFW
unless he wants the name and the fame (and 1000+ posts of spam in here and pm)

really i like it like it is now!
(just my opinion)

 

[bardaxx]

rxTools should stay rxTools a way to dump tickets etc..., not a custom CFW
unless he wants the name and the fame (and 1000+ posts of spam in here and pm)

really i like it like it is now!
(just my opinion)

yes man, but in my opinion there is no evolution if you don't dare. The scene is active, we must give space to all sorts of homebrew, although this will certainly give space to piracy.

 

[cearp]

rxTools should stay rxTools a way to dump tickets etc..., not a custom CFW
unless he wants the name and the fame (and 1000+ posts of spam in here and pm)

really i like it like it is now!
(just my opinion)

but it already is a cfw, just with no signature patches...
it is not simply a tool to dump files.

 

[pikatsu]

If people had the fear of evolution, they have not made all those technology steps

 

[bardaxx]

If people had the fear of evolution, they have not made all those technology steps

SUPERQUOTE! But we know, roxas75 is not stupid! we only need to wait!

 

[Atlantisse]

Now the question is: Will roxas75 be a hero. Not the hero we deserve, but the one we need.

 

[DjoeN]

but it already is a cfw, just with no signature patches...
it is not simply a tool to dump files.

Hmmz,

If you look at it that way, yes it is already a cfw and not simply a tool to dump stuff (that also contributes to piracy anyway)
If he does signature patches, he also could aswell look into making his own emunand, it now still depends on GW/MT to create emunand before it can be used.