Gaming Pokemon X: Bank Hack Paradise

[gamefan5]

Because whats the point.
Pikachu A caught in viridian forest
Pikachu B caught in pallet town.
Both identical stats: Whats the difference?
Only the location

Does it affect anything?
No

Well, I think it would matter in order to recognize event Pokémon.
As GF has the power to make pokemon considered illegal (for example a magikarp with hydro pump and yes they did make one, or a pikachu with surf ) They could even slap an ability to a pkmn they aren't supposed to have.
That's where location, how it was obtained, the pokeball and the abilities, or ID is important, basically to make said pokemon legal with their . As it is easy for a noob to just try to create the same event pokemon, slap the same moves and abilities and ignore these terms. Thus, it would be 'badly hacked' and illegal.

While it might not matter much in the competitive business as you say, I guess it could matter for bragging rights.
Hell I don't have a pikachu with surf (but I could make one) but if my opponent does, I certainly wouldn't expect it.

But yeah, if illegal moves, illegal abilities or illegal stats are stopped, it doesn't matter much if u think gameplay wise.

 

[Black-Ice]

Well, I think it would matter in order to recognize event Pokémon.
As GF has the power to make pokemon considered illegal (for example a magikarp with hydro pump and yes they did make one, or a pikachu with surf ) They could even slap an ability to a pkmn they aren't supposed to have.
That's where location, how it was obtained, the pokeball and the abilities, or ID is important, basically to make said pokemon legal with their . As it is easy for a noob to just try to create the same event pokemon, slap the same moves and abilities and ignore these terms. Thus, it would be 'badly hacked' and illegal.

While it might not matter much in the competitive business as you say, I guess it could matter for bragging rights.
Hell I don't have a pikachu with surf (but I could make one) but if my opponent does, I certainly wouldn't expect it.

Good to see someone talking with some fact and sense.

They can make it, but it wont be allowed to compete online, which is what most of the people here dont understand.
Heh pokegen makes bragging rights easy, but when it comes down to making a difference, a magikarp with fire blast will forever be: bragging rights,
Thats what people need to understand.

In terms of events, i'm sure all the pokemon given moves they cant get, are the legendaries you cant use online anyway, I may be wrong.

 

[Ryukouki]

Pokemon has complex math and science.

Shake probability

The shake probability, b, is the probability that a single shake check passes.
Generation II

Consult the following table to determine b:
a 0-1 2 3 4 5 6-7 8-10 11-15 16-20 21-30 31-40 41-50 51-60 61-80 81-100 101-120 121-140 141-160 161-180 181-200 201-220 221-240 241-254 255
b 63 75 84 90 95 103 113 126 134 149 160 169 177 191 201 211 220 227 234 240 246 251 253 255
Generation III-IV

The shake probability is calculated as follows in Generation III and Generation IV:

We can also calculate the complexities of catch rate as seen here:

Probability of capture

Therefore, the probability p of catching a Pokémon in Generation IV, given the values a and b calculated above, is:

The second expression for p may be expanded as follows:

Since (216 - 1)4 ≈ 264, we can approximate p with the following expression:

The percentage error in this approximation approaches 0 as a approaches 255, and does not exceed 21.2%.
For a constant probability p, the probability P that a player can capture the Pokémon with no more than r tries is:

Note that this is the cumulative probability function for a geometric distribution. The expected value of r is 1/p, that is to say, on average, a Pokémon that can be caught with probability p will be caught with 1/p tries.
The inverse problem, the number of tries, r, needed to have a probability P of capturing a Pokémon is:

 

[gamefan5]

Good to see someone talking with some fact and sense.

They can make it, but it wont be allowed to compete online, which is what most of the people here dont understand.
Heh pokegen makes bragging rights easy, but when it comes down to making a difference, a magikarp with fire blast will forever be: bragging rights,
Thats what people need to understand.

In terms of events, i'm sure all the pokemon given moves they cant get, are the legendaries you cant use online anyway, I may be wrong.

1. Yeah, I think a the premier ribbon or something prevents that, although I should look on it.
Can legendaries be used in free battles? I know it can't in ratings.
2. Yep, pokegen does make creating event pokemon ez for real. XD
3. In the end, gameplay wise, if it's in the legal stuff, it won't matter, but for legit bragging rights, well that's the only thing where it will matter.

Pokemon has complex math and science.



We can also calculate the complexities of catch rate as seen here:

U should see me calculating the probability of damage an attack can make to another pkm depending on all the stats and items involved. Not to mention the probability of critical hits!

Pokeymanz is srz buzinezz!!
And what people doesn,t understand is that mathematics makes it all possible. XD

 

[Black-Ice]

1. Yeah, I think a the premier ribbon or something prevents that, although I should look on it.
Can legendaries be used in free battles? I know it can't in ratings.
2. Yep, pokegen does make creating event pokemon ez for real. XD
3. In the end, gameplay wise, if it's in the legal stuff, it won't matter, but for legit bragging rights, well that's the only thing where it will matter.

1. I think you're right, not sure either. And with the legendaries, yeah they can all be used in free. Anything not possible however is still banned in free
2. ^^
3. ^^ OMG someone understands how this game works

 

[Ryukouki]

Oh boy more QQ bitching from the same corners. Best way to sum this all up: If it is created with Pokegen or whatever, but still falls within the normal parameters established by the game, what makes it that much different from another Pokemon that has the exact same set? All I see is a time investment, which I understand to some people is a huge deal, but let's face it, some of us have not a lot of time to do these types of things. Shouldn't necessarily make me a cheater/hacker since I don't have 800 hours to grind things out anymore (even though its a lot easier in X and Y), but I'd just rather transfer the guys that are perfectly legal (created "illegally" but still playable with proper stats and movesets), though not created legitimately in the game itself. I really fail to see how this issue can be so hard to grasp.

 

[gamefan5]

Oh boy more QQ bitching from the same corners. Best way to sum this all up: If it is created with Pokegen or whatever, but still falls within the normal parameters established by the game, what makes it that much different from another Pokemon that has the exact same set? All I see is a time investment, which I understand to some people is a huge deal, but let's face it, some of us have not a lot of time to do these types of things. I don't have 800 hours to grind things out anymore (even though its a lot easier in X and Y), but I'd just rather transfer the guys that are perfectly legal (created "illegally" but still playable with proper stats and movesets), though not created legitimately in the game itself. I really fail to see how this issue can be so hard to grasp.

YAY!!! Welcome to the pokegen club, Ryukouki! XD
Well pokegen users will have a bit of an edge also.
The creation of perfect dittos
Again, still falls under doing things with less time.

 

[Ryukouki]

YAY!!! Welcome to the pokegen club, Ryukouki! XD

Honestly if I want to make it into pharmacy school, I don't have time to sit for 999:59 to grind the perfect stats out for like two dozen guys anymore.

EDIT: I see a brilliant front page article in the works here.

 

[Black-Ice]

YAY!!! Welcome to the pokegen club, Ryukouki! XD

Don't forget the: "I understand how pokemon works" club

 

[gamefan5]

Honestly if I want to make it into pharmacy school, I don't have time to sit for 999:59 to grind the perfect stats out for like two dozen guys anymore.

HA! Ikr? Hell, I even had to use a trick in pkmn x to breed faster, it works it saves u loads of time, but at the end of the day, when I really need to get shit done, I turn to pokegen.

 

[Ryukouki]

HA! Ikr? Hell, I even had to use a trick in pkmn x to breed faster, it works it saves u loads of time, but at the end of the day, when I really need to get shit done, I turn to pokegen.

Honestly, I've gotten proficient enough so that my pokes look so real that it looks like I actually did do all of that, so theoretically, if one can successfully create in Pokegen a Pokemon that passes such checks, what makes it that much worse than a completely legitimate Pokemon with the exact same moveset and stats, sans time investment?

 

[Black-Ice]

Honestly, I've gotten proficient enough so that my pokes look so real that it looks like I actually did do all of that, so theoretically, if one can successfully create in Pokegen a Pokemon that passes such checks, what makes it that much worse than a completely legitimate Pokemon with the exact same moveset and stats, sans time investment?

Ryunagi
I love you.

Please continue being right.

 

[gamefan5]

Honestly, I've gotten proficient enough so that my pokes look so real that it looks like I actually did do all of that, so theoretically, if one can successfully create in Pokegen a Pokemon that passes such checks, what makes it that much worse than a completely legitimate Pokemon with the exact same moveset and stats, sans time investment?

That's a trick question. Don't make me answer it!
Erm... uuughghghghghg, eh I got nothin'.

^That's pretty much the answer to me.

 

[Foxi4]

There's actually a very easy way to get rid of all these hacked Pokemon and edited saves issues. That way is called "release a new Pokemon game with absolutely no transfer features whatsoever and a brand-new, encrypted save file system with a brand-new Pokemon storage format rather than using legacy crap that can be hacked in 15 pictoseconds by Pokenerd extremists".

Of course Gamefreak/Pokemon Company/Nintendo would never do that for one simple reason - they don't want to create a game in which each and every Pokemon is catch-able, that would kill the sales of games released earlier. Yes, people actually do buy old-ass Pokemon games that'd normally gather dust on shelves just for the sake of completing their Pokedex by transferring data.

I can guaran-effing-tee that if the data was stored in a heavily-encrypted and hashed form, it wouldn't get "hacked" until the actual system would be able to freely run Homebrew, and even then it would be quite a pickle. Of course that would require hard, honest programming "work" and "work" is not something Nintendo or its subsidiaries are particularly good at.

 

[Ryukouki]

That's a trick question. Don't make me answer it!

Exactly. I will play that trick question and force you guys to answer it in a few days time.

 

[gamefan5]

Exactly. I will play that trick question and force you guys to answer it in a few days time.

I edited my post for a rather funny answer.
Although, do I smell an article coming from you soon?

 

[Black-Ice]

Exactly. I will play that trick question and force you guys to answer it in a few days time.

I can't wait to watch all the answers you'll receive from the guys who just don't get it .__.

 

[Ryukouki]

I edited my post for a rather funny answer.
Although, do I smell an article coming from you soon?

It'll be Blizzard soon. If you haven't heard of Blizzard soon, google it.

 

[gamefan5]

It'll be Blizzard soon. If you haven't heard of Blizzard soon, google it.

That was gold, man.

 

[Foxi4]

It'll be Blizzard soon. If you haven't heard of Blizzard soon, google it.

I prefer the 3D Realms's "When it's done".