The Legend Of Korra Book 2 Discussion Thread

[GameWinner]

So the one hour premiere aired yesterday. What are your thoughts on the episodes?
I thought it was pretty solid yet at the same time predictable. But that's just me.
Thoughts on Book 2 so far?
Also, I didn't really like Korra in the two episodes. She was bratty before but it's like she was raging at everyone around her. She has her reasons but still.

 

[The Catboy]

I DVR'd it and loved it! A great start to Book 2!

 

[Chiejina]

I wanna know who that unkown avatar is that aangs grand daughter discovered a statue of.... Maybe a 2nd avatar?? :000000! That would be pretty badass.
Korra seems bi-polar. But then again aang was almost like her. Not too bi polar tho from what i remember.
Understandable tho since they get forced to do things they dont want.

 

[Guild McCommunist]

New season is kinda shit.

First off they brushed over literally tons of important shit from season one. Like how suddenly their government shifts in six months. And how suddenly that wouldn't create more discontent having one person with a lot of power as president compared to a council with equal representation. Like they could've added a nonbender or made the council elections not based on bending or nonbending but on like districts or something along those lines. Also how such a large movement could not have any fallout from being torn apart in the season finale. Like at least have Mako chasing after former Equalists in that dumb motorcycle scene (which mind you has no relevance to the plot at all) instead of Triads.

Characters are really just plainly stupid. Tenzin and Korra's dad see a very CLEAR AND IMMEDIATE THREAT in front of them with this spirits issue and they insist she do more Airbending. Are you fucking stupid people. She has a decent grasp on Airbending, she can tackle her avatar duty first instead of learning MORE Airbending. Also like after the second spirit ambush they continue to throw more fire and useless shit at the spirits even though they should know it's ineffective after their first encounter and plus some time into the second one.

Animaton is still alright but does seem a step down from season one. The mouths are a bit jarring how they're just moving on immobile faces. Also doesn't help that the exposition dumps are embarrassingly bad and blunt. Funny enough they couldn't even give an exposition dump for all the shit that happened in six months.

There's also Tenzin's Scooby Doo Adventures but who gives a shit really. Nothing really happens there for the second episode except one of his daughters see a statue glow a bit. Oooooh.

Also seems like most of it is taking place in the dull, boring Pole areas. Nice to know they spent all this time making Republic City only to have it never visited again.

So welp looks like Korra is gonna be bad.

 

[GameWinner]

New season is kinda shit.

First off they brushed over literally tons of important shit from season one. Like how suddenly their government shifts in six months. And how suddenly that wouldn't create more discontent having one person with a lot of power as president compared to a council with equal representation. Like they could've added a nonbender or made the council elections not based on bending or nonbending but on like districts or something along those lines. Also how such a large movement could not have any fallout from being torn apart in the season finale. Like at least have Mako chasing after former Equalists in that dumb motorcycle scene (which mind you has no relevance to the plot at all) instead of Triads.

Characters are really just plainly stupid. Tenzin and Korra's dad see a very CLEAR AND IMMEDIATE THREAT in front of them with this spirits issue and they insist she do more Airbending. Are you fucking stupid people. She has a decent grasp on Airbending, she can tackle her avatar duty first instead of learning MORE Airbending. Also like after the second spirit ambush they continue to throw more fire and useless shit at the spirits even though they should know it's ineffective after their first encounter and plus some time into the second one.

Animaton is still alright but does seem a step down from season one. The mouths are a bit jarring how they're just moving on immobile faces. Also doesn't help that the exposition dumps are embarrassingly bad and blunt. Funny enough they couldn't even give an exposition dump for all the shit that happened in six months.

There's also Tenzin's Scooby Doo Adventures but who gives a shit really. Nothing really happens there for the second episode except one of his daughters see a statue glow a bit. Oooooh.

Also seems like most of it is taking place in the dull, boring Pole areas. Nice to know they spent all this time making Republic City only to have it never visited again.

So welp looks like Korra is gonna be bad.

Oh man, this post just nailed it especially the first paragraph. I did not understand the need for them to rush through all of that.

 

[Gahars]

So these episodes were... not good.
1) Horrible, blatant exposition, and lots of it. I mean, Republic City changes its entire governmental structure, abolishing the council and replacing it with a presidency. This major event is covered... in one sentence at the very beginning. (Hell, they even use "As you know" unironically.)
2) Korra is horrible. So she's learned absolutely nothing from the previous season and treats everyone around her like complete shit. Our hero, ladies and gentlemen.
3) Almost everyone else is a complete nonentity or completely useless.
4) The animation has taken a serious dip. Studio Pierre was a great idea, right guys? The fight scenes used to be a saving grace, but here they're just sort of flat.
5) The plot's not really all that interesting. Oh boy, Korra happy runs off to join the new "I'm not a bad guy, no really, I swear it!" character. Wonder how that'll turn out this time. As for the spirit world/first avatar stuff, I can't say I'm too invested. They weren't really explained before, but they didn't need to be. The bits and pieces we got were more than enough. It's not really something I'm dying to know more of.

As I was watching, it hit me that I just don't care about these characters or this plotline. There's nothing to invest me in any of this. Korra's not going to learn anything, and people will still trip over themselves to praise her no matter what; there's no consequences for her. It's like watching Dexter 2.0 (and, amusingly enough, Harry from Dexter plays Korra's Dad. If that's not an omen, I don't know what is.)

Honestly, I think I'm just done with the show. The Last Airbender was great, but the team really should've just quit while they were ahead.

(To be fair, it wasn't all bad. Korra said, "Naga, hush!" at one point. That was a little amusing.)

 

[Thanatos Telos]

So these episodes were... not good.
1) Horrible, blatant exposition, and lots of it. I mean, Republic City changes its entire governmental structure, abolishing the council and replacing it with a presidency. This major event is covered... in one sentence at the very beginning. (Hell, they even use "As you know" unironically.)
2) Korra is horrible. So she's learned absolutely nothing from the previous season and treats everyone around her like complete shit. Our hero, ladies and gentlemen.
3) Almost everyone else is a complete nonentity or completely useless.
4) The animation has taken a serious dip. Studio Pierre was a great idea, right guys? The fight scenes used to be a saving grace, but here they're just sort of flat.
5) The plot's not really all that interesting. Oh boy, Korra happy runs off to join the new "I'm not a bad guy, no really, I swear it!" character. Wonder how that'll turn out this time. As for the spirit world/first avatar stuff, I can't say I'm too invested. They weren't really explained before, but they didn't need to be. The bits and pieces we got were more than enough. It's not really something I'm dying to know more of.

As I was watching, it hit me that I just don't care about these characters or this plotline. There's nothing to invest me in any of this. Korra's not going to learn anything, and people will still trip over themselves to praise her no matter what; there's no consequences for her. It's like watching Dexter 2.0 (and, amusingly enough, Harry from Dexter plays Korra's Dad. If that's not an omen, I don't know what is.)

Honestly, I think I'm just done with the show. The Last Airbender was great, but the team really should've just quit while they were ahead.

(To be fair, it wasn't all bad. Korra said, "Naga, hush!" at one point. That was a little amusing.)

There is a VERY big difference between The Last Airbender and Avatar: The Last Airbender.

 

[Warrior522]

Logged in to comment: Liveposted my thoughts while watching it to a friend who gave up on the show during it's first season. Warning, extremely ragey.

[7:25:23 PM | Edited 7:25:33 PM] EOL(Warrior): ...KORRAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
[7:32:13 PM] EOL(Warrior): HOLY BALLS THE ANIMATION MANAGED TO GET WORSE!
[7:32:26 PM] EOL(Warrior): It's like Season 1 of ATLA again!
[7:32:37 PM] EOL(Warrior): ...this is what I waited a year for?
[7:32:41 PM] EOL(Warrior): *sigh*
[7:34:23 PM] EOL(Warrior): ...jesus Korra is it that time of the month already? MAKO is more relaxed.
[7:35:02 PM] EOL(Warrior): KATARA! THANK GOD.
[7:36:21 PM] EOL(Warrior): Oh, yay. Trolldad.
[7:37:30 PM] EOL(Warrior): ...HI PANDERING. WE TOTALLY NEEDED MORE OF YOU.
[7:37:34 PM] EOL(Warrior): *sigh*
[7:38:00 PM] EOL(Warrior): I can smell the cheap laughs/9001 twincest fics this will spawn...
[7:38:27 PM] EOL(Warrior): ...make that incest all around.
[7:38:37 PM] EOL(Warrior): God dammit Bryko
[7:38:49 PM] EOL(Warrior): stop making people related
[7:40:21 PM] EOL(Warrior): OH LOOK A SCENE THAT EMPHASIZES THAT BOLIN EXISTS PURELY FOR LAUGHING AT.
[7:40:40 PM] EOL(Warrior): YOU ARE NOT HELPING, SEASON 2. IN FACT YOU ARE MAKING IT WORSE.
[7:49:30 PM] EOL(Warrior): ...AN ENTIRE PLOT POINT DEDICATED TO ESTABLISHING THAT BOLIN EXISTS PURELY FOR LAUGHING AT!
[7:50:49 PM] EOL(Warrior): ...Asami/Bolin
[7:50:54 PM] EOL(Warrior): oh bollocks
[7:51:06 PM] EOL(Warrior): PREPARE THE LONG-RANGE DEFLECTOR SHIELDS
[7:56:57 PM] EOL(Warrior): lol Tenzin
[7:57:04 PM] EOL(Warrior): y u so likeable
[7:58:57 PM] EOL(Warrior): ...
[7:59:00 PM] EOL(Warrior): MAKO.
[7:59:05 PM] EOL(Warrior): IS MORE LIKEABLE.
[7:59:09 PM] EOL(Warrior): THAN KORRA.
[7:59:24 PM] EOL(Warrior): What, did they swap attitudes during sex?
[7:59:27 PM] EOL(Warrior): jesus.
[8:07:50 PM] EOL(Warrior): ...
[8:08:11 PM] EOL(Warrior): THE NEW GUY IS BETTER THAN THE ENTIRE CAST. (as in, he's respectful, intelligent, and seems to have actual depth)
[8:20:08 PM] EOL(Warrior): aaaand Korra just fired Tenzin. Shit.
[8:23:57 PM] EOL(Warrior): "When you get to be my age, you'll be thankful for the time you had with your siblings."
[8:24:46 PM] EOL(Warrior): ...goddammit. NOW you make me care...
[8:24:51 PM] EOL(Warrior): T_T
[8:42:11 PM] EOL(Warrior): HAHAHAHAHAHA OH WOW
[8:43:06 PM] EOL(Warrior): As usual, Aang's descendants are the funniest and best part of the show. Can we scrap the Avatar thing and make it "Tenzin and Co." ?
[8:58:39 PM | Edited 8:58:43 PM] EOL(Warrior): ...Bolin, go die in a fire.
[8:58:53 PM] EOL(Warrior): Mako, you can stay.
[8:59:04 PM] EOL(Warrior): Korra, chill.
[9:01:02 PM] EOL(Warrior): ...will someone off this little shit? PLEASE? (referring to the youngest of Tenzin's plague rats)
[9:01:12 PM] EOL(Warrior): ...oh Aang...
[9:01:20 PM] EOL(Warrior): We need you, lil' buddy.
[9:02:08 PM] EOL(Warrior): The world's a fucking mess without you, Sokka, Toph, and Suki... Zuko and Katara can't hold this together for much longer...
[9:07:30 PM] EOL(Warrior): ...jesus you guys are useless.
[9:09:57 PM] EOL(Warrior): The old crew was six 10-14 year olds, and only four of them could bend anything useful, and OH YEAH THEY SAVED THE GODDAMN PLANET FROM THE MOTHERFUCKING APOCALYPSE. YOU'RE ALL BENDERS, TWICE AS OLD MINIMUM, AND YOU JUST GOT WRECKED BY A MAGICAL SPACE LIZARD. YOU FUCKING SUCK.
[9:10:30 PM] EOL(Warrior): "'tree's frozen in ice"
[9:10:48 PM | Edited 9:10:54 PM] EOL(Warrior): the fuck else would it be frozen in? Space lizard piss?
[9:20:34 PM] EOL(Warrior): ...that was fucking HORRENDOUS.
[9:20:50 PM] EOL(Warrior): and that "cliffhanger"
[9:22:09 PM] EOL(Warrior): "HAVE I MENTIONED I AM EVIL? OH BY THE WAY I'M EVIL. YOU THOUGHT I WAS JUST GOING TO BE A SLIGHTLY ROUGH BUT PERFECTLY REASONABLE PERSON? SILLY FAN, DEEP CHARACTERS ARE FOR THE LAST AIRBENDER!"
[9:22:44 PM] EOL(Warrior): Fuck this fucking show. Sticking around for Tenzin; the rest of this mess can go to hell.

Summary:

Bolin is completely worthless and is basically Sokka without actually being likeable OR funny.. so nothing like Sokka...

Korra has lost all of her loveable spark and is now straight-up bipolar.

Mako... actually became more likeable. But also completely useless.

Tenzin is completely beaten, and is basically going to serve as a punching bag for his brats and siblings as far as jokes go.

The Twins... why. In a series that is supposed to thrive on deep, interesting characters, why would you ever think this was a good idea?!?

New guy(aka Generic the Badguy): You had potential for a rough edged but heroic character who could very well have provided an interesting dynamic. NOOOOOPE.

The animation quality has dropped like a stone, the characters are flat, the environment is lifeless, and the character development HAS REVERSED COURSE. Absolute shit, 2/10 would not bang.

 

[Gahars]

There is a VERY big difference between The Last Airbender and Avatar: The Last Airbender.

1) Not if you just disregard the movie entirely.
2) The movie was horrible, but at least it was entertainingly so.

 

[Warrior522]

Korra seems bi-polar. But then again aang was almost like her. Not too bi polar tho from what i remember.

Aang was also 10 years old. Kinda different from being in your 20's... Also there's the whole technically being the same person thing...

 

[Apache Thunder]

New season is kinda shit.

First off they brushed over literally tons of important shit from season one. Like how suddenly their government shifts in six months. And how suddenly that wouldn't create more discontent having one person with a lot of power as president compared to a council with equal representation. Like they could've added a nonbender or made the council elections not based on bending or nonbending but on like districts or something along those lines. Also how such a large movement could not have any fallout from being torn apart in the season finale. Like at least have Mako chasing after former Equalists in that dumb motorcycle scene (which mind you has no relevance to the plot at all) instead of Triads.
....

(long quote snipped for space)

I am one of those that likes show. Stop expecting this to be ATLA...because it's never meant to. Different setting, different characters. It has it's flaws, but honestly, I didn't mind. ATLA had it's own set of issues too. You seem overly negative. Maybe you are going in expecting too much? New season isn't "sh*t". But you are entitled to your opinion I suppose...


I happened to have liked the twins. With Eska being my favorite. Haven't heard much out of the other one though. Only had one line in the first episode I think. I think they just need more time to flesh out their characters. Right now I did notice that the first couple of episodes did seemed to be crowded in terms of character screen time. The air temple side story distracted from the main plot line and that could have probably been in it's own episode and wouldn't have been worse off.

They seem to be using Bolin to fill Sokka's shoes so to speak. Other then his interactions with Eska being hilarious, he's just a big pile of meh for me. I've seen Sokka's antics and such and this guy just seems more of the same, so meh...

Besides that I've liked the new show so far. Gives me something to watch on Fridays.

 

[Warrior522]

Stop expecting this to be ATLA...because it's never meant to.

This hardly excuses it being nowhere near the standard set by ATLA, especially because, yanno... The same people are making it?

 

[Apache Thunder]

This hardly excuses it being nowhere near the standard set by ATLA, especially because, yanno... The same people are making it?

And why exactly is it suppose to "live up to ATLA's standard". On what authority do you have to make that statement? The author's of this show are free to do what ever the *** they want. They don't have to live up to YOUR expectations.

I say they shouldn't try. Just go a different direction and make something different. Maybe a little change is a good thing. If they did every little thing the fans shouted at them, then it really would be a big pile of **** .

 

[Gahars]

And why exactly is it suppose to "live up to ATLA's standard". I say they shouldn't try. Just go a different direction and make something different. Maybe a little change is a good thing. If they did every little thing the fans shouted at them, then it really would be a big pile of **** .

Standard refers to quality here. They can make something entirely different if they like, but I'd rather it be good.

 

[Apache Thunder]

I honestly haven't noticed any issues with the animation and while the writing of this series thus far isn't perfect, I'm not going to nitpick it to death and hate on it.

This seems to be spiraling into a war of ATLA vs Korra. Sorry but will not go there. End of this discussion. I say lets back on topic.

 

[FAST6191]

My brother and I watched it last night.... the writing was pretty weak, one dimensional would probably be a step up for most of the characters and despite it trying somewhat hard it was not even all that amusing like many other kids shows. However I do have to wonder how much of this gets to be placed at the feet of the storyboard and/or editors, it might be better to wait for deleted scenes but I am half tempted to try a recut of my own as I reckon it could be done. On the other hand thus far there was little in the way of "if you just straight up killed, injured or imprisoned the guy, or borrowed their" tech which marred much of the last series for me.

Spoiler: most amusing bit

The ship at the start of things has the old guy say things like "who knows what is out there". This is fine but when we already know there to be huge monster fish, island sized sentient creatures and more it falls a bit flat

I will watch further but I have not seen so much reversal of potential since Walking Dead. All this after a so so ending to burn notice and a deja vu (though better) return of Sons of Anarchy.

 

[Chiejina]

Yeah give it a chance ppl. Lol.
Maybe all these things will be expanded on later.

Dont just take it at face value. Wait for the season to end.

 

[Guild McCommunist]

And why exactly is it suppose to "live up to ATLA's standard". On what authority do you have to make that statement? The author's of this show are free to do what ever the *** they want. They don't have to live up to YOUR expectations.

I say they shouldn't try. Just go a different direction and make something different. Maybe a little change is a good thing. If they did every little thing the fans shouted at them, then it really would be a big pile of **** .

So we're not allowed to criticize a show for being bad because we don't have the "authority" to do it? Kinda destroys the jobs of critics everywhere.

I'm not even nitpicking, it seems like pretty large leaps in logic. The whole "Well it's YOUR opinion!" argument is pretty nonsensical, it's the internet, I'm free to state it and if my criticisms are valid, then why shouldn't I criticize?

Also I forgot to add that Korra as a character just seems worse. Like really prone to just being a raging bitch half the time. Like it almost seems like her reactions could be punctuated with a "Women, huh?" and a laugh track. Like Mako says very politely that everyone is just looking out for her and she bitches out. Mako then tries to agree with her and she bitches out. Like it literally just sounds like "lol women are indecisive lol". Also when Mako tells her dad he'll take care of her, she goes "SOMETIMES I WONDER WHOSE SIDE YOU'RE ON." Change your tampon, Christ.

Also reassuring that Asami, who was a pretty major character in season one, got about 3 minutes of screen time between the first two episodes.

I'm not even trying to say "It's not TLA!", I'm just saying in general it's a show with a lot of holes.

 

[Black-Ice]

As far as I know.
Guild and Gahars loved avatar, and were some of the most pro Legend of Aang/Korra tempers i've seen.
So to see them so disappointed is worrying.

I'll watch it when its out and form my view then, I hope it isnt a complete crash out :/

 

[gamefan5]

Watched it also. I hate the fact that they just cut to the chase, instead of explaining thoroughly what happened during the 6 months.

Are benders trusted again? Those who supported the equalists, what happened to them?
Who's running the town, etc.
It also feels like Korra hasn't learned anything at all and she keeps hating on the people worrying about her.

I also laughed when they insisted on Korra doing more airbending while the threat of the spirits is more alarming then ever.
As for the animation... it felt... weird against the spirits....

All in all, not impressed.