[Theory/Rumor] Nintendo DS production set to stop

[ElYubiYubi]

No native hacks worth mentioning, more annoying to hack for old games, less than optimal for GBA games, less than optimal for some types of homebrew, lower battery life (it is a portable console after all), more expensive and arguably no games gaems at present ( http://gbatemp.net/threads/android-as-a-viable-alternative-to-the-3ds-and-maybe-vita.345121/ ) and depending upon your tastes not a terribly rosy future either.

Bad might be a stretch but 3ds outright better at present is "time to take up yoga if you enjoy stretching that much".

Really? Where you have been?

Hacks? why you want hacks?
You want GBA Games? buy a DSTwo and the GBA games will be coming to the VC sooner or later

Srsly Android Shitty games for the 3DS and PS Vita? Who want to play those "games"

 

[Ericthegreat]

I just bought my friend's DS Lite for $65 from her, and she gave me 6 games with it for free. :3

(She set the price, and I agreed.)

And what no sex?

 

[FAST6191]

Native hacks might have been the wrong word- I was referring entirely to the lack of a 3ds mode hack with 3ds mode homebrew and hacked games there. Similarly if I want to keep a current 3ds and hacks it is not quite as braindead easy as the original iterations of the DS.

DS hacks - there is some nice stuff done with GBA carts (just because the DSi does not have a GBA slot I am not sure we can outright dismiss it though). DSerial is something I am interested in and depending upon what goes there might be some wifi issues but I will ignore that as it seeming a passing non issue.

Why do I want hacks? You are asking this both of a ROM hacker and on GBAtemp? Did we sign up to the same site? Step outside of pokemon and mario level editors and you will find a whole world of things to look at.

Battery life was a mish mash of concepts and maybe a slightly weak argument depending upon how you want to take it. If I am to hold its native mode up as the mode of choice I will stick by that assessment though.

The DStwo is an inferior method of playing GBA games when compared to the actual hardware. Admittedly GBA games are considerably easier to do in hardware than earlier Nintendo consoles and thus are done near flawlessly in every way the really matters but

The android/vita thing was more to elaborate upon my position on the matter- everything that made the GBA and DS special to me is absent from the 3ds as best I can tell. Still I went through the essentials list, the ROM dump/game released lists and confirmed it would be the case for me (game by game would take a while but it would be a long list of meh, such games bore me, I already played it when it was called/back when, why would I get that if I already have a DS and can play, if that is your idea of good.... so can we nod and say we did).

 

[The Milkman]

Really? Where you have been?

Hacks? why you want hacks?
You want GBA Games? buy a DSTwo and the GBA games will be coming to the VC sooner or later

Srsly Android Shitty games for the 3DS and PS Vita? Who want to play those "games"

Android games might be mobile, but don't discount them. There are good mobile games that at the very least are able to mimic console-quality pretty well, Shadow Gun is one of my favorites, even though I hate Gears. Hacks allow for Homebrew and fun, hell I'm getting a PSP just to hack it and do shit. Also, Android has a far better emulator for GBA than Nintendo's efforts thus far.

 

[TripleSMoon]

Android games might be mobile, but don't discount them. There are good mobile games that at the very least are able to mimic console-quality pretty well, Shadow Gun is one of my favorites, even though I hate Gears. Hacks allow for Homebrew and fun, hell I'm getting a PSP just to hack it and do shit. Also, Android has a far better emulator for GBA than Nintendo's efforts thus far.

Which GBA emulator did you have in mind? I'm curious, because I used to emulate on Android with Gameboid, when it was still relevant.

And a "far better emulator for GBA than Nintendo's efforts thus far." You mean no effort at all?

 

[DSGamer64]

I thought that they were still getting good sales on the DS, why would they want to stop production now?

Overstock maybe. They probably still have millions of units sitting in their warehouses and in stores. Companies tend to mass produce their products and then can production when sales start to slow down or the latest model starts picking up in sales. Nintendo will probably make a lot of units for replacements when systems break down as well, they will roll back the production over the course of a couple of years before ceasing it altogether.

 

[The Milkman]

Which GBA emulator did you have in mind? I'm curious, because I used to emulate on Android with Gameboid, when it was still relevant.

And a "far better emulator for GBA than Nintendo's efforts thus far." You mean no effort at all?

Exactly

But yeah, I was mostly talking about Gameboid, My Boy is also alright, but I like the classics.

Oh god, I'm calling a 2 year old android app classic ;_;

 

[ElYubiYubi]

everything that made the GBA and DS special to me is absent from the 3ds as best I can tell.

I still don't understand what is that 'special' thing. The 3DS can do everything the GBA and NDS do just better. I could understand IF the 3DS wasn't Backward Compatible but it is.

Hacks just kill the Console/Handheld. But Homebrew is different.

The DS Lite/DSi hasn't been hacked yet. And if the 3DS is more difficult to hack is good for Nintendo.
But if you search here in the forums you'll find that the 3DS and Wii U has been hacked just not out for public or in test/beta.

 

[Eerpow]

NintenDOOOOOOMMMMMMEDDDD!!!!

I choose to live in Nintendenial! ;O;

 

[Rydian]

I still don't understand what is that 'special' thing. The 3DS can do everything the GBA and NDS do just better. I could understand IF the 3DS wasn't Backward Compatible but it is.

Hacks just kill the Console/Handheld. But Homebrew is different.

Do you HAVE a 3DS?

If you do, stick a GBA game in it and take a picture. I'd love to see that.

 

[DSGamer64]

Nintendo =/= doomed!

Fixed that for you!

 

[Deleted_171835]

I still don't understand what is that 'special' thing. The 3DS can do everything the GBA and NDS do just better. I could understand IF the 3DS wasn't Backward Compatible but it is.

DS games look like shit on the 3DS (thanks to a resolution that doesn't scale properly) so the backwards-compatibility doesn't even matter.

 

[Eerpow]

DS games look like shit on the 3DS (thanks to a resolution that doesn't scale properly) so the backwards-compatibility doesn't even matter.

The 1:1 mode on the XL looks great though, but yeah, doesn't beat a lite when it comes to portability and bc. It's still worth owning both if you have the money.

 

[The Milkman]

Do you HAVE a 3DS?

If you do, stick a GBA game in it and take a picture. I'd love to see that.

I think he means in terms of what it can do, ex. Swapnote, 3D, eShop.

 

[TripleSMoon]

DS games look like shit on the 3DS (thanks to a resolution that doesn't scale properly) so the backwards-compatibility doesn't even matter.

You're going to dismiss true hardware backward compatibility because it doesn't scale exactly precisely as the original? Really?

Granted, I never owned an original DS model. But having compared some of my games with how they play on the DSes that come into my shop (out of curiosity), the difference seems almost infinitesimal in most cases. Seriously, if the difference is so small that you have to strain to see it in a side-by-side comparison (or else be attuned to it for a long time), then I don't see what the big deal is.

 

[ElYubiYubi]

Do you HAVE a 3DS?

If you do, stick a GBA game in it and take a picture. I'd love to see that.

DSTwo with GBA Emulation, My cellphone, my PC can do that. And soon the 3DS itself by VC.
Why you care so much about GBA?

 

[WiiUBricker]

Why is this news labeled rumour?

 

[TripleSMoon]

DSTwo with GBA Emulation, My cellphone, my PC can do that. And soon the 3DS itself by VC.
Why you care so much about GBA?

See, this is why I hunted down a backlit GBA SP last year... definitely a bit more expensive, but so much simpler.

 

[ElYubiYubi]

DS games look like shit on the 3DS (thanks to a resolution that doesn't scale properly) so the backwards-compatibility doesn't even matter.

Not in the XL. It matter becauses it does have BC. 3DS>>>NDS. It has even surpassed it in sales.

 

[FAST6191]

I still don't understand what is that 'special' thing. The 3DS can do everything the GBA and NDS do just better. I could understand IF the 3DS wasn't Backward Compatible but it is.

Hacks just kill the Console/Handheld. But Homebrew is different.

The DS Lite/DSi hasn't been hacked yet. And if the 3DS is more difficult to hack is good for Nintendo.
But if you search here in the forums you'll find that the 3DS and Wii U has been hacked just not out for public or in test/beta.

The point was not that the 3ds was irredeemable but that for some there may be no point in upgrading and thus "Move On to the 3DS. The 3DS is a hell lot better than the NDS" might not be the best advice. My contention was that the 3ds lacks proper GBA support, the DS support was maybe not entirely complete and from my vantage point the 3ds library does not stand up by itself (looking at what came before) and certainly does not top its predecessor.

If you feel that way about hacks I dare say you have joined the wrong site.

The DS lite is very well hacked- it is basically the same as the original DS. About the only thing that is not hacked on the DS lite is the RSA for download play but anybody that wants that can just use flashme. Similarly there are far reaching hacks for the DSi.

The 3ds being more or less difficult to hack in general and such a situation being better or worse for Nintendo is immaterial to this present debate. Equally even if those "beta" hacks got made public tomorrow we are quite far from the nice and polished arrangements we have on the DS today.