PlayStation 4 report suggest price over $400

[Guild McCommunist]

I think Sony will have no issues hitting consumers' weak points for massive damage.

 

[RodrigoDavy]

Video games are getting overly expensive these days. If a deluxe version of PS4 costs $500, might as well buy a computer.

 

[AceWarhead]

Video games are getting overly expensive these days. If a deluxe version of PS4 costs $500, might as well buy a computer.

Video gaming isn't a cheap hobby, it's a luxury.

 

[ShadowSoldier]

And yet... everybody bitched the WiiU is too expensive...

 

[RodrigoDavy]

Video gaming isn't a cheap hobby, it's a luxury.

It depends on your point of view... I bought a gba sp for $20 and I can find some gba games for $5, it doesn't need to be a luxury

Also, many years ago, consoles used to be way cheaper than computers which now is changing. I can use a PC for gaming too, you know... I need to have a PC anyway and the only reason I bought console before was because of their more attractive price, I can find PC games for very reasonable prices too

 

[Guild McCommunist]

It depends on your point of view... I bought a gba sp for $20 and I can find some gba games for $5, it doesn't need to be a luxury

Also, many years ago, consoles used to be way cheaper than computers which now is changing. I can use a PC for gaming too, you know... I need to have a PC anyway and the only reason I bought console before was because of their more attractive price, I can find PC games for very reasonable prices too

A good gaming PC is still $1000+.

And gaming consoles are generally cheaper than years before, adjusting for inflation. Exception is the PS3 when it launched but even that's not as expensive as older consoles.

 

[ShadowSoldier]

It depends on your point of view... I bought a gba sp for $20 and I can find some gba games for $5, it doesn't need to be a luxury

Also, many years ago, consoles used to be way cheaper than computers which now is changing. I can use a PC for gaming too, you know... I need to have a PC anyway and the only reason I bought console before was because of their more attractive price, I can find PC games for very reasonable prices too

You gotta realize, the money value changes. In the 80's early 90's, 300 was A LOT of money, and on gameshows, winning $20,000 made you feel like a millionaire and you could buy anything. Now, $300 is easy to get and $20,000 can barely get you a new car.

So while in retrospect, consoles back then were cheaper, they're still somewhat the equivalent price that we pay now.

 

[Sychophantom]

Not entirely surprising. Sony never seems to learn from previous mistakes in pricing.

It will sell, because people go apeshit for shiny things.

 

[AceWarhead]

It depends on your point of view... I bought a gba sp for $20 and I can find some gba games for $5, it doesn't need to be a luxury

Also, many years ago, consoles used to be way cheaper than computers which now is changing. I can use a PC for gaming too, you know... I need to have a PC anyway and the only reason I bought console before was because of their more attractive price, I can find PC games for very reasonable prices too

I'm talking about buying things new/current, like a new title that came out. Of course the used market is going to be cheaper, no surprises there. Getting those is a huge luxury. Video gaming isn't gonna lower prices to cater to lower income people. They'd lose massive amounts of money.
Back then, computers were a new thing and weren't readily available like today. You have to take in account the era of which those consoles were in.
That brings me to my next point. Sure, you can get a PC and play PC games, that's nice and dandy, but what of exclusives? I doubt you're gonna find Wind Wanker HD or Tokyo Jungle on a PC ( Not counting emulation ).

 

[duffmmann]

It depends on your point of view... I bought a gba sp for $20 and I can find some gba games for $5, it doesn't need to be a luxury

Also, many years ago, consoles used to be way cheaper than computers which now is changing. I can use a PC for gaming too, you know... I need to have a PC anyway and the only reason I bought console before was because of their more attractive price, I can find PC games for very reasonable prices too

I think a luxury can be regarded as anything in life that you don't need at all to continue living. This can be anything from video games to fancy foods.

 

[LightyKD]

And shit like this is why Ouya might be my last console until the next...next generation. Gaming is getting way too expensive and not so family friendly. The ironic part is that the industry wants to be considered mainstream entertainment so badly yet they pull shit like this to turn people off and away.

 

[PolloDiablo]

 

[RodrigoDavy]

You gotta realize, the money value changes. In the 80's early 90's, 300 was A LOT of money, and on gameshows, winning $20,000 made you feel like a millionaire and you could buy anything. Now, $300 is easy to get and $20,000 can barely get you a new car.

So while in retrospect, consoles back then were cheaper, they're still somewhat the equivalent price that we pay now.

But it's still counter-intuictive the fact that consoles are getting more expensive as time passes when the prices of computers are clearly dropping. Since, want it or not, consoles are computers.

Sure, you can get a PC and play PC games, that's nice and dandy, but what of exclusives? I doubt you're gonna find Wind Wanker HD or Tokyo Jungle on a PC ( Not counting emulation ).

I think it's a bit worrying that console prices are getting close in price with PCs. Nowadays, even the lower-end PCs have some kind of 3D acceleration and can play at least some older games. It's normal to find for a relatively cheap price, PCs that can run recent games even if it's on lowest settings. PCs are getting more potent and cheaper as time passes and consoles are going the opposite way in this regard.

I think a luxury can be regarded as anything in life that you don't need at all to continue living. This can be anything from video games to fancy foods.

If we see things like this we could consider having a TV, a computer, a DVD player and this sort of things a luxury... This doesn't sound right... A luxury is something that is too expensive for most people to afford like helicopters for example. I don't see consoles quite fitting this criterium, they're more like unnecessary but certainly not luxury.

 

[duffmmann]

If we see things like this we could consider having a TV, a computer, a DVD player and this sort of things a luxury... This doesn't sound right... A luxury is something that is too expensive for most people to afford like helicopters for example. I don't see consoles quite fitting this criterium, they're more like unnecessary but certainly not luxury.

Those are all absolutely luxuries. People lived for years and years without them, and could continue to live years and years without them. Luxury does not automatically equal expensive. But if we are to acknowledge it that way, then a 200 dollar tv today was absolutely a luxury when it was first introduced to the public. A PS3 cost 500 and 600 dollars at launch, and now costs less than 300 dollars. Does that price difference make it less of a luxury or is it still the same product thats just more affordable? You're strictly looking at this from a dollars and cents point of view, while I'm looking at it from a life value point of view.

 

[PolloDiablo]

Those are all absolutely luxuries. People lived for years and years without them.

people lived for years without Brushtooths

 

[AceWarhead]

people live for years without Brushtooths

And they had pretty shitty teeth and dental problems, eh?

 

[Maxternal]

people live for years without Brushtooths

That would definitely make it more of a luxury than drinking water ... even if not by much.

 

[RodrigoDavy]

And they had pretty shitty teeth and dental problems, eh?

Actually, not necessarily... If we didn't eat any junk there would be no need for toothbrush, the problem is we eat too much candy

EDIT: Ever noticed how animals don't brush their teeth and still they don't need to use denture?

 

[IBNobody]

Video games are getting overly expensive these days. If a deluxe version of PS4 costs $500, might as well buy a computer.

That's exactly what I'm going to be doing. The trick to having a lasting gaming rig is to buy the new computer a year or two after the next batch of consoles launch. That gives the GPU makers enough time to catch up.

 

[Psionic Roshambo]

399 for the base model, some mid range model for 499 and 599 for the deluxe model.

(The 399 model will require purchase of a Sony bracket to mount the optional hard drive.)

At least if the PS3 is anything to go by.