RUMOR - Monster Hunter 4 hitting Vita as well ?

[Valwin]

“Whilst originally it was said that the delay of MH4 was due to wanting to make a better quality game and graphics, the real reason appears to be that it may be released on the PS Vita to increase sales.

This would not surprise me at all if it were true Sony is very desperate i wonder what they offer capcom

Source

 

[Eerpow]

Reading around a bit reveals that this rumor comes from a magazine called game lab, they've spread false rumors several times before, so it's still as unlikely as ever. A rumor about a home console release on the other hand would be much more believable even if the game has a multilayer on the go focus.

 

[KingVamp]

Or Capcom just wanted to port the game...

 

[Eerpow]

Or Capcom just wanted to port the game...

I don't think they would want to do that. It would create a split in the userbase, Imagine being a Japanese guy on the go and not being able to play MH with everyone because of it being on two different systems, the game is heavily focused on local multiplayer over there so it would make no sense to create such a scenario.
The 3DS is immensely more popular right now in Japan so even if they released it most people would just get the more common 3DS version all their friends have.

 

[Guild McCommunist]

I don't think they would want to do that. It would create a split in the userbase, Imagine being a Japanese guy on the go and not being able to play MH with everyone because of it being on two different systems, the game is heavily focused on local multiplayer over there so it would make no sense to create such a scenario.
The 3DS is immensely more popular right now in Japan so even if they released it most people would just get the more common 3DS version all their friends have.

...Because you can't just buy it for the system that works for you.

...Or because Monster Hunter doesn't have a user base on Sony consoles despite every Monster Hunter game being Sony exclusive until Monster Hunter 3 or so?

Saying "they shouldn't put it on two systems because it'll create a split in the userbase" is like saying "Call of Duty should only be on the Xbox so it doesn't split the userbase."

It's incredibly elitist to say "I don't want my game to be multiplat because god forbid not everyone will play it on the same system I do."

Not that I care about MH4 on the Vita, Monster Hunter is bleh at most and there's bigger fish to fry for the console.

 

[Rizsparky]

I'll take this with a pinch of salt but if its true.. good news for the Vita

 

[Eerpow]

...Because you can't just buy it for the system that works for you.

...Or because Monster Hunter doesn't have a user base on Sony consoles despite every Monster Hunter game being Sony exclusive until Monster Hunter 3 or so?

Saying "they shouldn't put it on two systems because it'll create a split in the userbase" is like saying "Call of Duty should only be on the Xbox so it doesn't split the userbase."

It's incredibly elitist to say "I don't want my game to be multiplat because god forbid not everyone will play it on the same system I do."

Not that I care about MH4 on the Vita, Monster Hunter is bleh at most and there's bigger fish to fry for the console.

I'm not talking out of my own perspective, it's that the game doesn't fit for a multiplat release in Japan, the PSP had the game exclusively which worked, but having it on two systems would make it a hurdle for the fanbase since it's focused on multiplayer on the go, this isn't online oriented in Japan, unlike cod where you easily can find players to play against still then you most likely grab the version your friends play.

Imagine playing it on the train but half of your friends have the same game on the opposite platform. Of course I'm only talking about Japans perspective, here in the West it's much more doable.

 

[chris888222]

I would most love to see MH on Vita, but MH4 to Vita within such a short amount of time (supposedly it took place during the delay - as said in the magazine) seems very unrealistic and would likely mean a crap port. The 3DS and Vita are significantly different in some ways and it would be very messy to port a game enhanced for 2 screens to one with just one single touch display.

Unless Cashcom had the intention of making the game on both platforms in the first place, that is.

 

[Eerpow]

Oops, hit reply instead of edit.
A Vita version wouldn't result in much profits either over there as the 3DS is already much more established.

 

[Guild McCommunist]

Still, you buy the game for the system you'll play with people on. If your friends want the Vita version, buy the Vita version. If you want the 3DS version, buy that.

My Call of Duty metaphor still applies.

EDIT: And if this was the case then there'd be a complaint for every multiplat game. But there isn't.

 

[beta4attack]

inb4 3DS vs Vita war and/or "YES! I am sure the Vita version will be far superior"

 

[Valwin]

Still, you buy the game for the system you'll play with people on. If your friends want the Vita version, buy the Vita version. If you want the 3DS version, buy that.

My Call of Duty metaphor still applies.

EDIT: And if this was the case then there'd be a complaint for every multiplat game. But there isn't.

seem how this guys are known for fake rumors keep dreaming guilt ;o;

 

[GamerzHell9137]

I already posted that Valwin

 

[Gahars]

Well, if you want to get Japanese gamers to buy into your handheld, Monster Hunter seems to be the way to go.

This is an unsubstantiated rumor, of course, but the idea isn't so far fetched - I'm sure Sony would pay a pretty penny for a guaranteed system seller.

 

[granville]

As stated in another thread, the source for this news has a track record for publishing BS rumors such as these-

- Dragon Quest 9 getting a PSP port
- A new DS model will include a TV tuner and radio built in
- Square Enix making a new DS RPG with Shonen Jump characters
- Nintendo going to release an external hard drive for Wii

And even more here-
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=199682&page=4

 

[Eerpow]

As stated in another thread, the source for this news has a track record for publishing BS rumors such as these-

I mentioned it in the second post here too, I can't believe how this got spread as far as it did.

 

[Guild McCommunist]

seem how this guys are known for fake rumors keep dreaming guilt ;o;

Well I wasn't commenting on the existence of a Vita MH4, just that if it did exist, it wouldn't be an issue to anyone who wants to own MH4, it'd just expand the fanbase a little more and it's not like 3DS owner would lose out.

 

[Valwin]

Capcom comments on Monster Hunter 4 Vita rumor

I would not believe everything you read on the internet. It will set you up for disappointment or misdirected frustration. - Christian Svensson, Capcom

:3

 

[Valwin]

damn site double post

 

[gamewitch]

This goes against every thing I have heard form what I hear Capcom was going to make Monster Hunter exclusive to the 3DS well at least on the portable side of things anyways.

 

[Deleted_171835]

Going to quote a post from another site explaining the problem with Monster Hunter on Vita and 3DS.

Er, right. That's the point. In a meaningful sense, the difference is between a problem people can fix and a problem people can't. If your friends own 3DSes, and MH4 comes out for it, you're excluded. The solution is to buy a 3DS -- which you can (theoretically) feel good about, because now you own the platform, you can play its exclusive games, etc. You had to spend more money but none of it was wasted.

Contrariwise, if you all own a Vita and a 3DS, and your friends all buy MH4 for 3DS and you buy it for Vita, you're screwed. There's no solution here (if you opened your game already) except to throw it in the trash and go buy the same game again. (Or, probably, you just get cranky and tell your friends to suck it and get left out, or maybe everyone stops playing because it's not as much fun without everyone participating -- all bad ends for Capcom.)

There's really not a lot of wiggle room here. It's straight-up nonfunctional for a franchise like this to go multiplatform on an individual title unless there's cross-platform play.

... Again, online play is, moreso than anything else, a tool for playing with strangers or acquaintances (and maybe making them into friends) as a way of engaging in multiplayer when your friends aren't available. By definition, people can still always find others to play with in a popular game even if 100% of their friends bought on a different system; that's simply not true for a game like MH.

That's friction, and friction is deadly to business. Some people play with different groups of people regularly. Some people get started late compared to everyone else. Some people play in large mixed groups -- remember, MH is a game whose biggest market is teenagers, and it took off partially because people can play with everyone at their school, not just necessarily their 2-3 best buddies.

Each time you introduce platform choice here, you concretely lose money. Every person with two groups of friends that break for different platforms, you're looking at someone who might just not bother. When you can't get a monoculture going in large pools like a school, you're no longer dragging in new customers via peer pressure and trend-following because there's no longer a "buy this one thing and you'll be able to play with everyone" option. The factors that drive legs disappear and you split your upfront sales and then drop off the charts, or everyone just picks the preferred entry and standardizes on that and the investment in the second platform is completely wasted.

I mean, I don't know what to tell you here. Your entire theory about how this works is wrong. You want to use online FPSes in the US as an analogy here but the big differences between the two situations make it a really inaccurate analogy. Literally 100% of the appeal of this game is built around the idea that you buy it and play local multiplayer with people, so anything that makes that easier and more fun (rather than complicated and more work) will make the game sell better. ..

From a purely economic standpoint, the purpose of online play isn't to let you play with friends, it's to let you play with strangers. The goal is to make it possible for your customers to play with others even if their friends don't game, or own the game in question, or have time to play with you on the same schedule. It reduces friction by making MP always available: if you buy a game at launch, you're basically guaranteed to find people to play it with at any hour of the day, without doing any coordination or negotiation to get your friends on board. People can do the work to play with their friends if they want, but the feature has still served its purpose even for people who never once play with someone they know personally.

MH is tapping people into a much smaller pool of potential partners, which means they have to optimize for maximizing people's opportunities to play -- which in turn means making sure everyone can play the game with everyone else.