Apple seeks $707m more in damages from Samsung

[chris888222]

So where do I go to fill a civil suit against apple when my great android phone loses support cause of the apple law suits?

Your phone will never lose support because of this. At most it will be banned for sale, but it won't lose support. That's too drastic.

I sure hope the GS3 won't get banned since I haven't had the opportunity to get mine yet.

I'm 99% positive it will not be banned for sale. Maybe some temporary block but nothing that drastic. Samsung isn't a company that just sits there and does nothing.

 

[Just Another Gamer]

So where do I go to fill a civil suit against apple when my great android phone loses support cause of the apple law suits?

Your phone will never lose support because of this. At most it will be banned for sale, but it won't lose support. That's too drastic.

I sure hope the GS3 won't get banned since I haven't had the opportunity to get mine yet.

I'm 99% positive it will not be banned for sale. Maybe some temporary block but nothing that drastic. Samsung isn't a company that just sits there and does nothing.

Thats a relief since i'm really looking forward to getting a new phone and i'm really hoping to get my hands on a GS3, it looks so sleek and awesome. I had a chance to test one in store and its awesome and the screen would make watching anime on the go so much better.

"Oh helllz to da naw!" Really Apple? REALLY? I swear, this company needs to die a very painful death! It's greed like this that just makes me sick. Even worse is that my damn country defends this company like its the only god damned contribution we have left for human society. Ugh!

Dude I'm sure a lot of us feel like this.

 

[IBNobody]

I'm quite amused with some fandroids in the Internet (not aimed at anyone in this forum), in particular engaget and Macrumors. Some of them love to talk about their "new product which will definitely have some bugs" but when talking about Apple's just-released maps "IT'S A HUGE FLOP. ISHIT!"

Apple, in the Steve Jobs era, was known for pushing out polished apps. Their old motto was "It Just Works". If you put out something substandard (MobileMe), there was hell to pay.

Now, Apple is starting to push out sub-standard apps just to get Google out of their ecosystem. They released the hit-or-miss Siri to thwart Google searching. They dropped YouTube. They pushed out an inaccurate maps app so that Google loses out on local search revenue. What other shovelware do they have up their sleeve?

iCultists: You're the ones who are paying the price for this pissing match. You may love Apple, but Apple only loves your money.

 

[chartube12]

I am starting to think Apple will actually try and sue Google eventually. They are probably going to phase out all Google software first from their iSystems.

 

[chris888222]

I'm quite amused with some fandroids in the Internet (not aimed at anyone in this forum), in particular engaget and Macrumors. Some of them love to talk about their "new product which will definitely have some bugs" but when talking about Apple's just-released maps "IT'S A HUGE FLOP. ISHIT!"

Apple, in the Steve Jobs era, was known for pushing out polished apps. Their old motto was "It Just Works". If you put out something substandard (MobileMe), there was hell to pay.

Now, Apple is starting to push out sub-standard apps just to get Google out of their ecosystem. They released the hit-or-miss Siri to thwart Google searching. They dropped YouTube. They pushed out an inaccurate maps app so that Google loses out on local search revenue. What other shovelware do they have up their sleeve?

iCultists: You're the ones who are paying the price for this pissing match. You may love Apple, but Apple only loves your money.

What? Siri DOES use Google/yahoo/wiki search. Dropping YouTube is actually a blessing since the stock app really sucks.

Google will actually have their own Maps app for iOS.

But I have to agree on Apple pushing sub-par apps, especially Maps which are disastrous (it's like no testing at all). The last quality app which Apple released was probably iCloud.

I am starting to think Apple will actually try and sue Google eventually. They are probably going to phase out all Google software first from their iSystems.

The thing with Apple against Samsung is:
- Samsung is rising as a serious competitor (they use the overall phone design as an excuse)
- The TouchWiz touch up on the main OS, which indeed has some elements copied from iOS.

Google is occasionally in talks with Apple, and about a month or so Google actually met up with Apple to discuss about the patents stuff on the core Android OS to avoid such lawsuits. The chance of Apple suing Google is much less likely compared to Samsung, albeit still possible.

So where do I go to fill a civil suit against apple when my great android phone loses support cause of the apple law suits?

Your phone will never lose support because of this. At most it will be banned for sale, but it won't lose support. That's too drastic.

I sure hope the GS3 won't get banned since I haven't had the opportunity to get mine yet.

I'm 99% positive it will not be banned for sale. Maybe some temporary block but nothing that drastic. Samsung isn't a company that just sits there and does nothing.

Thats a relief since i'm really looking forward to getting a new phone and i'm really hoping to get my hands on a GS3, it looks so sleek and awesome. I had a chance to test one in store and its awesome and the screen would make watching anime on the go so much better.

"Oh helllz to da naw!" Really Apple? REALLY? I swear, this company needs to die a very painful death! It's greed like this that just makes me sick. Even worse is that my damn country defends this company like its the only god damned contribution we have left for human society. Ugh!

Dude I'm sure a lot of us feel like this.

I actually like the GS3 a lot (it's really tempting now since there has been a price drop). The only main gripe I have is the shitty customer care that Samsung provides in Singapore. With 4.1 coming up, it's really really tempting.

I really like Samsung's hardware. The GS2 was just amazing. However their customer service sometimes makes me think twice.

 

[ShadowSoldier]

Wow, p1ng actually got some people? Good job p1ng.

I'm pretty sure what could be said.about apple has already been said in other threads. It's the same thing over and over.

But in all honesty, couldn't it be funny if google somehow pulled their search engine and youtube from the iPhone? I know google doesn't have anything to do with this, but I just think that would be funny.

I think we should not post any more apple threads on gbatemp until it's apple vs google. Now that is a thread I'd want to see.

 

[Just Another Gamer]

I actually like the GS3 a lot (it's really tempting now since there has been a price drop). The only main gripe I have is the shitty customer care that Samsung provides in Singapore. With 4.1 coming up, it's really really tempting.

I really like Samsung's hardware. The GS2 was just amazing. However their customer service sometimes makes me think twice.

Agreed. Although I usually get help on XDA so I don't usually need to care about shit customer service since there will be people to help me anyway.

Well I enjoy the hardware and products enough to not really mind that but I do hope JB on the GS3 will be better otherwise i'll probably be using CM9 or 10 depends on its development cause of bloatware that usually comes with Samsung phones.

 

[MelodieOctavia]

First of all, well done p1ng. I had my doubts that you would fool anyone, but I was wrong.


Anyway, Apple seems to be putting the cart before the horse considering the decision from the first lawsuit is still being appealed.

 

[Gahars]

Anyway, Apple seems to be putting the cart before the horse considering the decision from the first lawsuit is still being appealed.

Well, they've ignored appeals to decency before, so this isn't a huge shift for them.

 

[Dimensional]

The only reason they claim to be suing them for this much is because of "damages in profit"
That's a very weak case (knowing apple they'll win anyway) and there is no way to prove that their loss in profit has anything to do with the fact that samsung's devices are similar.
Apple only has so much time ticking on the clock, until samsung and everyone else that they have unjustly sued have enough and strike back.
There is also only so long that their customers will support them.

I agree with you most of the way. Yes, they are suing for damages to their wallets. And they are suing every, even something that is clearly not an infringement. But there are only a few cases where they actually have legitimate reasons. Only a few, less than a handful, and a lot less compared to how many cases they are just trying to overload in the courts. I wouldn't put it by them for doing it like that to get all the courts so fatigued that they will just blindly side with Apple. However, that's a risky move, as there's a 50/50 chance the courts will instead side with everyone else. Apple would have to win a vast majority of their cases in order to guarantee a judge to side with them without so much as reviewing the evidence.

I'm totally with what p1ng said, he's 100% correct. Apple deserves its money back

Until you realize that Apple stole from others, see the next quote. Also, they are suing anything that breaths. They are suing an online Polish grocery store for, as they claim, stealing their trademarked icon. Tell me, does a green circle with a leaf look more like an apple or a lime? And isn't .pl also used for Polish websites and perl script files? Apple should sue the entire nation of Poland for the using .pl. They should sue Froot-of-the-loom for having an apple in their logo. Yes, people stole from Apple, or so they want you to believe. Not everything was stolen from Apple. Most of these things were stolen from other companies and Apple is just trying to claim they made it first, despite all the evidence. Apple only deserves a percentage based on what is truly original, and not stolen from others. Sadly, that's less than 10% in my opinion.

While I'm not an apple fan boy, I'm certainly not a complete hater. I like some of their products, I just wish they'd stop with all their claims that I know first hand are downright lies. ("Can't get a virus/hacked" and "Never crashes" are the biggest ones I've definitely proven wrong, and that was me not even trying. Hell, I was doing the opposite. I was making sure it wouldn't ever have either happen, and it did that.)

The way I see it, I see Apple as a dog, the Apple iDog (developed for the use of the blind), with Steve Jobs as the owner. He walks the dog, feeds it, takes good care of it. Now with him gone, the dog is barking at anything that moves, trying to bite into everything it sees. It's going to bite at something that'll kick it across the yard sooner or later, so it needs to back up before it gets hurt.

It's late, I can't tell who's being sarcastic/trolling/whatever. This is all I have to say:

Spoiler

Best post Ever!

 

[gloweyjoey]

I am not an Apple lover, nor do I even own or have I owned an Ipod. But honestly, all these apple hate threads are becoming too much.

They just become filled with pretentious comments about one side when both sides seem to be just as pretentious. It's not like Apple is the only one that sues anyone in these cases. Samsung will be suing over the Iphone 5 I guarantee it.

 

[Just Another Gamer]

I am not an Apple lover, nor do I even own or have I owned an Ipod. But honestly, all these apple hate threads are becoming too much.

They just become filled with pretentious comments about one side when both sides seem to be just as pretentious. It's not like Apple is the only one that sues anyone in these cases. Samsung will be suing over the Iphone 5 I guarantee it.

No its not just crapple that sues others but its only crapple that sues because they lost the market share to a another company and they can't think of anything else to steal to get that market share back also note that only in AMERICA that they won in these cases everywhere else in the world they either didn't get anything or lost.

 

[raulpica]

I am not an Apple lover, nor do I even own or have I owned an Ipod. But honestly, all these apple hate threads are becoming too much.

They just become filled with pretentious comments about one side when both sides seem to be just as pretentious. It's not like Apple is the only one that sues anyone in these cases. Samsung will be suing over the Iphone 5 I guarantee it.

No its not just crapple that sues others but its only crapple that sues because they lost the market share to a another company and they can't think of anything else to steal to get that market share back also note that only in AMERICA that they won in these cases everywhere else in the world they either didn't get anything or lost.

All that "crapple" stuff makes you look like an anti-Apple fanboy. Which is equally bad as being one of those Apple fanboys you dislike so much.

 

[Just Another Gamer]

I am not an Apple lover, nor do I even own or have I owned an Ipod. But honestly, all these apple hate threads are becoming too much.

They just become filled with pretentious comments about one side when both sides seem to be just as pretentious. It's not like Apple is the only one that sues anyone in these cases. Samsung will be suing over the Iphone 5 I guarantee it.

No its not just crapple that sues others but its only crapple that sues because they lost the market share to a another company and they can't think of anything else to steal to get that market share back also note that only in AMERICA that they won in these cases everywhere else in the world they either didn't get anything or lost.

All that "crapple" stuff makes you look like an anti-Apple fanboy. Which is equally bad as being one of those Apple fanboys you dislike so much.

So its suddenly bad to hate the bully who will pick on anyone who does things better than them....right cause thats stupidity right there. Hating a company that steals people's ideas and makes a sub par product sold at a high end price and sues anyone else who makes a better product and is able to get a better market share by actually innovating is somehow bad then those who support crApple is worse.

 

[nando]

So its suddenly bad to hate the bully who will pick on anyone who does things better than them....right cause thats stupidity right there. Hating a company that steals people's ideas and makes a sub par product sold at a high end price and sues anyone else who makes a better product and is able to get a better market share by actually innovating is somehow bad then those who support crApple is worse.

no it's not. but claiming "Better" "superior" etc as fact is very asinine no matter what side of the fence you are flinging poo from.

 

[Just Another Gamer]

So its suddenly bad to hate the bully who will pick on anyone who does things better than them....right cause thats stupidity right there. Hating a company that steals people's ideas and makes a sub par product sold at a high end price and sues anyone else who makes a better product and is able to get a better market share by actually innovating is somehow bad then those who support crApple is worse.

no it's not. but claiming "Better" "superior" etc as fact is very asinine no matter what side of the fence you are flinging poo from.

So stating facts is wrong now? Seriously the Note, Note 2, GS3 are clearly better and is easier on the wallet than the brand new "innovative" iphone 5 yet somehow thats wrong?

 

[Rydian]

What's wrong is using derogatory terms like "crapple". What's next, Micro$soft?

I thought that fad died in the 90's.

 

[nando]

So its suddenly bad to hate the bully who will pick on anyone who does things better than them....right cause thats stupidity right there. Hating a company that steals people's ideas and makes a sub par product sold at a high end price and sues anyone else who makes a better product and is able to get a better market share by actually innovating is somehow bad then those who support crApple is worse.

no it's not. but claiming "Better" "superior" etc as fact is very asinine no matter what side of the fence you are flinging poo from.

So stating facts is wrong now? Seriously the Note, Note 2, GS3 are clearly better and is easier on the wallet than the brand new "innovative" iphone 5 yet somehow thats wrong?

But you aren't stating facts? Because the gs3 costs the same as the iphone on my carrier. So how is the gs3 easier on the wallet? Plus what's the resale value of the gs3? I can trade in my old iphone 4 for 240 dollars right now if I wanted to. So how is that harder on the wallet?

and what is better about it? spec numbers? is that all you value? fine. it is better for you. not me.

 

[Minox]

So its suddenly bad to hate the bully who will pick on anyone who does things better than them....right cause thats stupidity right there. Hating a company that steals people's ideas and makes a sub par product sold at a high end price and sues anyone else who makes a better product and is able to get a better market share by actually innovating is somehow bad then those who support crApple is worse.

Disliking someone doing something you find wrong is completely fine. However the way you intentionally spell their company name as 'crapple' pretty much instantly makes any point you may or may not have had seem irrelevant as you just made yourself out to only be in it for the badmouthing.

Another thing worth noting is that "better" is a subjective term that varies depending on whom you may ask. Just because you find something to be "better" does not mean it is better, it just means that in your opinion you find it to be that way.

 

[Just Another Gamer]

So its suddenly bad to hate the bully who will pick on anyone who does things better than them....right cause thats stupidity right there. Hating a company that steals people's ideas and makes a sub par product sold at a high end price and sues anyone else who makes a better product and is able to get a better market share by actually innovating is somehow bad then those who support crApple is worse.

no it's not. but claiming "Better" "superior" etc as fact is very asinine no matter what side of the fence you are flinging poo from.

So stating facts is wrong now? Seriously the Note, Note 2, GS3 are clearly better and is easier on the wallet than the brand new "innovative" iphone 5 yet somehow thats wrong?

But you aren't stating facts? Because the gs3 costs the same as the iphone on my carrier. So how is the gs3 easier on the wallet? Plus what's the resale value of the gs3? I can trade in my old iphone 4 for 240 dollars right now if I wanted to. So how is that harder on the wallet?

and what is better about it? spec numbers? is that all you value? fine. it is better for you. not me.

Right so you can resell at a higher price and that suddenly means its automatically better?

Apple has just been playing catch up for years and haven't made a device worth its price tag since Android started getting a bigger and bigger market share. The hardware running in the new iphone is comparable to a phone released what 5 months ago with a screen Android phones had 2-4 years ago, right thats innovating and worth its extremely high price tag.