After announcing Project Q in May, their next gaming handheld aimed at streaming PS5 games in May, Sony didn't provide much details about this system except for a glimpse at its hardware. Well, that’s the official case as unofficially, there has recently been a leaked video that provides a closer look at the device’s hardware as well as software. The news was shared by Twitter user @Zuby_Tech:

PlayStation Project Q Leaks:#PlayStation #ProjectQ https://t.co/gyFrsW7xkN pic.twitter.com/0R0yQIdr0I

— @Zuby_Tech (@Zuby_Tech) July 22, 2023

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While in low resolution, we can see from the video that the device’s OS, clearly an early and unpolished version, is Android-based. We can see a familiar Android launcher/app drawer, navigation buttons as well as some Android test apps. A “QC Test” app apparently indicates that the handheld packs a Snapdragon chip.

Based on the video, it appears that the handheld - likely a prototype - is also a single unit, as opposed to having detachable controllers like the Switch. In a separate tweet, Zuby_Tech also shared some additional pictures of the device, including one with the screen module remove and exposing part of the device’s innards:

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As these are unofficial videos, you might want to take this news with a pinch of salt but considering that the device will run on a version of Android, it suggests that it could be used for more than just streaming PS5 games. Options could range from cloud gaming to official emulators to loading unofficial emulator APKs; but its potentials will depend on its specs and we'll have to wait for the official word from Sony.

What do you think of the Project Q? Are you looking forward to this handheld?

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[tabzer]

You people must have no idea the PS Remote App exists on the Android platform otherwise common sense would tell you why this also uses it. No one is looking at this controller tablet thinking "OMG I HAVE TO GET THIS TO PLAY MY CANDY CRUSH."

You aren't informed enough to make such an assumption. I've demonstrated more than enough understanding about the product to back up everything I've stated about it. I am looking at this controller tablet thinking "OMG I WISH I COULD USE IT TO PLAY PINBALL." It's wasted potential for many reasons. For me, one in particular.

This guy clearly nailed it:


100% on the nose.

Jim Ryan, the boss made an entire presentation on what this is, and you guys still wanna argue and hold hope that this will become a new PSP/Vita that plays shovelware Android games.

It's a streaming device just like the PS boss said it is, it doesn't matter what three guys wish it was on an internet forum, it doesn't matter if it's rooted later on to play shovelware APKs, it's marketed and being developed as a peripheral that's meant to work alongside the PS5, not a stand-alone handheld console. Anyone that's looking to buy this is doing it so they can stream their PS5 games Wii U style, not because of potential Android games.

I agree with that statement. I've even echoed similar sentiment in this thread. Unfortunately, it was not your statement nor the contention. Something something goal posts.


People are gonna try to emulate/clone Switch OS onto this thing (among other projects) and it's going to be interesting.

You're trying to twist "handheld gaming device" to fit your hopes of a new portable Sony handheld when their own PlayStation Showcase has already told the world that's not what it is.

You added this in an edit, and I want to point out that it is factually wrong. It's a handheld gaming device. I'm sorry if it's not a good one, in your opinion. "Handheld gaming device" indicates function, not quality, or environmental conditions.



Watch the intro. The controversy isn't over the definition. The controversy is over the wasted potential and restrictive application.

Handheld ✓
Gaming ✓
Device ✓

 

[subcon959]

Thread: Wasted chance to create a Vita successor. Who needs yet another streaming handheld device..

Guy: You are all wrong! This is NOT a new handheld console!

Thread: Eh?

 

[raging_chaos]

You guys really are trying too hard, here I'll make it simpler to follow what was said previously by others and where I stepped in.

Spoiler

Are you looking forward to this handheld?

no i don't give a fuck about a shitty streaming device it's NOT a handheld! - Bladexdsl

no i don't give a fuck about a shitty streaming device it's NOT a handheld!

Except it's literally a handheld gaming device. - Redcoloredstars

Except it's literally a handheld gaming device.

Except it's literally a streaming gaming device. - Bladexdsl

Except it's literally a streaming gaming device.

In my opinion it's a handheld gaming device, But not a handheld game console. - Danipoo

In my opinion it's a handheld gaming device, But not a handheld game console.

No, you're trying to redefine what peripherals and handhelds are. This is not a handheld device because it doesn't work without being tethered to another console. - raging_chaos

This does not function as a standalone handheld gaming device, as it relies on being tethered to the PS5 to work properly, otherwise called a peripheral.

One guy was trying to imply a handheld gaming device and handheld gaming console are different things when the two terms are interchangeable. You guys perfectly know well that when people refer to handhands in gaming they are talking about consoles like the Gameboy and PSP, not controllers and other things that can be held in your hand, useless semantics. They then tried to say "Android reasons" is why it's a gaming device when that's not what this is intended for and we all know Sony intends to lock it down to being a peripheral to the PS5 regardless of what enthusiasts wish for.

Going full circle and without moving goalposts, it is a streaming device like Bladexdsl originally said and matches the Sony presentation. A handheld gaming device has always meant a Gameboy, DS, PSP, etc, not a controller and any article presenting it that way in their headline is doing it for clicks. You guys are arguing about semantics on what is considered "held in the hand" and trying to make it seem like that's the argument. It's literally just your own literacy getting in the way.

It's a streaming device, buy it if you don't have an Android phone w/ PS Remote Play and a Dual Sense already. /thread.

 

[tabzer]

You guys really are trying too hard, here I'll make it simpler to follow what was said previously by others and where I stepped in.

Spoiler

no i don't give a fuck about a shitty streaming device it's NOT a handheld! - Bladexdsl



Except it's literally a handheld gaming device. - Redcoloredstars


Except it's literally a streaming gaming device. - Bladexdsl


In my opinion it's a handheld gaming device, But not a handheld game console. - Danipoo



No, you're trying to redefine what peripherals and handhelds are. This is not a handheld device because it doesn't work without being tethered to another console. - raging_chaos

One guy was trying to imply a handheld gaming device and handheld gaming console are different things when the two terms are interchangeable. You guys perfectly know well that when people refer to handhands in gaming they are talking about consoles like the Gameboy and PSP, not controllers and other things that can be held in your hand, useless semantics. They then tried to say "Android reasons" is why it's a gaming device when that's not what this is intended for and we all know Sony intends to lock it down to being a peripheral to the PS5 regardless of what enthusiasts wish for.

Going full circle and without moving goalposts, it is a streaming device like Bladexdsl originally said and matches the Sony presentation. A handheld gaming device has always meant a Gameboy, DS, PSP, etc, not a controller and any article presenting it that way in their headline is doing it for clicks. You guys are arguing about semantics on what is considered "held in the hand" and trying to make it seem like that's the argument. It's literally just your own literacy getting in the way.

It's a streaming device, buy it if you don't have an Android phone w/ PS Remote Play and a Dual Sense already. /thread.

I don't know if that was simple. I think this is simpler:

Handheld ✓
Gaming ✓
Device ✓

@Bladexdsl trolls many headlines offering emotionally impulsive reactions many people can relate to (including me). That's not the same thing as being technically accurate. Every response to him was in attempt to correct towards that direction. @DaniPoo was demonstrating the most understanding of everyone involved and you came over and flipped the table. Why?

 

[raging_chaos]

was demonstrating the most understanding of everyone involved and you came over and flipped the table. Why?

Moving goalposts. Enough has been said. It's a streaming device.

 

[tabzer]

Moving goalposts. Enough has been said. It's a streaming device.

It's a handheld streaming device. By streaming, we are talking about gaming. PS5 gaming, locally. Not from a service provider online. Not videos either. Well, maybe.

If you are suggesting that @Bladexdsl shifted goalposts, or you are declaring that you are moving goalposts, then I agree.

 

[raging_chaos]

But his message wasn't harmed.

I'm literally saying it's a streaming device (Backbone One + proprietary Android Tablet + PS Remote Play all-in-one). It's not a new traditional "handheld gaming device" in the same vein as the PSP and Vita. Sony hasn't announced they are producing Android games and don't expect this to be anything else other than a peripheral for the PS5 that resembles a Wii U controller. I'm not saying f*ck the device like Blade and if continuing a point that was originally brought on by him brings on heat then oh well.

The Wii U was hacked to display RetroArch on the Pad, did that stop the controller from being a peripheral for the Wii U. Does running Doom on a pregnancy test turn it into a handheld gaming device? They don't, yea I get you aren't arguing that point (you would like this to be repurposed for pinball games), but to the others, it's all useless semantics, wishful thinking, and speculation on it being more than the sum of its parts.

 

[tabzer]

I'm literally saying it's a streaming device, it's not a new traditional "handheld gaming device" in the same vein as the PSP and Vita

Nobody in the history of the thread made such a claim. Everyone is trying to define it the best way they know how.

In function, it seems to be designed to act like a Wii U controller, an expensive one at that, but its technical specs suggests potential beyond that.

It's interesting that you are now arguing that hacked devices may provide greater function. It seemed like you were originally against labelling a device outside of its marketed intent. A pregnancy test that can play doom would be an unconventional handheld doom gaming device. If it could play more games than doom, then we could drop the "doom" from the description.

 

[Bladexdsl]

@Bladexdsl trolls many headlines offering emotionally impulsive reactions many people can relate to (including me)

i'm not trolling nothing your just too stupid to realize what this thing is. i've known about it for months i was even the first person to make a post about it when it was first rumored. someone even made a thread thinking that it was a new switch once again i corrected them again and told them about this fucking pathetic device. go ahead look at my old posts you'll see i have mentioned this THING again and again in several posts spanning months back saying again and again what it was. so once again:

• it's NOT a handheld
• it's not a vita successor
• it's not a tablet
• it's not a gaming device

it's a useless screen attached to a controller that lets you STREAM games from your ps5.
there's no playing android games on it. there's no jailbreaking it. there's not going to be any way to play any other games on it except ones you have on your ps5 or have a ps plus account. so get the idea out of your head that it's going to be the next big thing from sony i'm sorry IT IS NOT.

it's designed to do ONE thing and ONE thing ONLY

stream games from your ps5!

so go ahead reply some bullshit trying to deny all that now. but i wont be seeing them anymore

 

[tabzer]

i'm not trolling nothing your just too stupid to realize what this thing is. i've known about it for months i was even the first person to make a post about it when it was first rumored. someone even made a thread thinking that it was a new switch once again i corrected them again and told them about this fucking pathetic device. go ahead look at my old posts you'll see i have mentioned this THING again and again in several posts spanning months back saying again and again what it was. so once again:

• it's NOT a handheld
• it's not a vita successor
• it's not a tablet
• it's not a gaming device

it's a useless screen attached to a controller that lets you STREAM games from your ps5.
there's no playing android games on it. there's no jailbreaking it. there's not going to be any way to play any other games on it except ones you have on your ps5 or have a ps plus account. so get the idea out of your head that it's going to be the next big thing from sony i'm sorry IT IS NOT.

it's designed to do ONE thing and ONE thing ONLY

stream games from your ps5!

so go ahead reply some bullshit trying to deny all that now.

It's a handheld. It's part tablet. It's a gaming device. "You're" welcome.

there's no jailbreaking it.

That just goes against the spirit of this site. Do you leech and never seed?

Congratulations on being the first one to hear about Project Q btw.

 

[DaniPoo]

You're trying to twist "handheld gaming device" to fit your hopes of a new portable Sony handheld when their own PlayStation Showcase has already told the world that's not what it is. It's a peripheral, a literal streaming device, get over it. You aren't getting an Android-based self-contained portable console from Sony.




That last line is informing you it's a peripheral by telling you it's a companion to the PS5.

No you do not listen to my point if you are still repeating the same thing.
I agree totally with you that this device is probably not going to run any games locally and will mainly be used for streaming.

But a "handheld gaming device" is a broader term than "Handheld gaming console". This term could be applied to other types of devices for instance a game-streaming device that you hold in your hand.

And even though it's not a handheld console, it could still be a handheld gaming device and a peripheral.

agree on what it is, but we disagree on the meaning of the words.

 

[tabzer]

go ahead look at my old posts

Lol, that's a troll. Sorry bud.

 

[raging_chaos]

It seemed like you were originally against labelling a device outside of its marketed intent.

No, let me clarify what I've said once again. In gaming, a handheld device and a handheld gaming console are not two different things; they are interchangeable terms. A handheld gaming device should not be confused with a controller (ie: Wii U Pad); a controller is appropriately called a peripheral. This peripheral's intended use is as a streaming device for PS5 games.

But a "handheld gaming device" is a broader term than "Handheld gaming console". This term could be applied to other types of devices for instance a game-streaming device that you hold in your hand.

In gaming, a handheld device and a handheld gaming console are not two different things; they are interchangeable terms. The words handhelds, peripherals, and home consoles have existed without confusion for decades except for here apparently.

 

[DaniPoo]

No, let me clarify once again. In gaming, a handheld device and a handheld gaming console are not two different things; they are interchangeable terms. A handheld gaming device should not be confused with a controller (ie: Wii U Pad); a controller is appropriately called a peripheral. This peripheral's intended use is as a streaming device for PS5 games.



In gaming, a handheld device and a handheld gaming console are not two different things; they are interchangeable terms. The words handhelds, peripherals, and home consoles have existed without confusion for decades except for here apparently.

Portable computer and Laptop are also interchangeable, but a portable computer can me other things than a laptop.

Similarly a handheld gamin device is a broad term that could be used interchangeably with a handheld game console, but also for other things.

 

[tabzer]

No, let me clarify once again. In gaming, a handheld device and a handheld gaming console are not two different things; they are interchangeable terms. A handheld gaming device should not be confused with a controller (ie: Wii U Pad); a controller is appropriately called a peripheral. This peripheral's intended use is as a streaming device for PS5 games.



In gaming, a handheld device and a handheld gaming console are interchangeable terms. The words handhelds, peripherals, and home consoles have existed without confusion for decades except for here apparently.

"In gaming"? What kind of lore are you on? When someone makes the juxtaposition of device and console, of course there is an emphasis on the difference of function. Console implies system and device implies tool. A wii u pad is not a conventional controller as it is a "hybrid", which can serve as the primary console or gaming device. Everything is peripheral.

 

[raging_chaos]

You're going back to made-up semantic arguments. They are interchangeable terms in gaming. This is why specific terms like peripherals exist, which is what this streaming device is. It completely avoids confusion unless someone stubbornly keeps trying to redefine words to be more inclusive and general instead of specific.

A wii u pad is not a conventional controller as it is a "hybrid

Hilarious how when I said this could end up being called a hybrid device if it was hacked it was laughed at by the very person you keep white knighting for, the irony. It also doesn't stop it from being a peripheral.

 

[tabzer]

Hilarious how when I said could end up being a hybrid device it was laughed at by the very person you keep white knighting for, the irony.

You want friends. I get that. I stood up for something someone said, and you confused that for the person. That's your small brain.

specific terms like peripherals

That's a "my sides" moment.

 

[DaniPoo]

You're going back to made-up semantic arguments. They are interchangeable terms in gaming. This is why specific terms like peripherals exist, which is what this streaming device is. It completely avoids confusion unless someone stubbornly keeps trying to redefine words to be more inclusive and general instead of specific.



Hilarious how when I said this could end up being called a hybrid device if it was hacked it was laughed at by the very person you keep white knighting for, the irony. It also doesn't stop it from being a peripheral.

If you say "handhelds" in a gaming community then that implies that you talk about handheld gaming consoles.
I think you are the stubborn one for not accepting that handheld gaming device is a broader term.
And also for refusing to accept that there are devices that can satisfy multiple descriptions.

The Switch for instance, to not confuse people like you, they had to come up with the word hybrid console.
But in fact it's also a handheld console and a home console.

The Apple Watch is both a smart watch and a peripheral (At least it used to be, because it needed to get all data from an iPhone), but you didn't call it a wearable streaming device.

Nvidia shield TV is categorised on wikipedia as both a set top box and a micro console.

Who is the stubborn narrow-minded one here I wonder...

 

[raging_chaos]

You want friends. I get that. That's your small brain.

You've just shown how weak your stance is that you feel the need to attack and lash out with insults, that's a brain running out of ideas and resorting to tired online tactics.

Who is the stubborn narrow-minded one here I wonder...

You, because you don't get why you are wrong while comparing apples to oranges.

It's a streaming device, a peripheral for the PS5 that will allow people to stream their games to the controller using Wifi.

Separating the term "handheld gaming device" into individual words doesn't change its meaning, it still implies devices like the PSP/Vita. No reply has proven otherwise and attempts at trying to redefine specific words into broader terms are failing just as badly. It doesn't matter if its a handheld forum, console forum, or general gaming forum, it still implies the same thing.

 

[DaniPoo]

You've just shown how weak your stance is that you feel the need to attack and lash out with insults, that's a brain running out of ideas and resorting to tired online tactics.



You, because you don't get why you are wrong while comparing apples to oranges.

It's a streaming device, a peripheral for the PS5 that will allow people to stream their games to the controller using Wifi.

Separating the term "handheld gaming device" into individual words doesn't change its meaning, it still implies devices like the PSP/Vita. No reply has proven otherwise and attempts at trying to redefine specific words into broader terms are failing just as badly.

No it doesn't... and you're not returning any stronger arguments.
Actually, all your arguments are "Because I said so" and "You make it all up"