Translation Zoids Saga DS: English Translation

[dominick1233]

oohhh im very anxious to see the outcome of this !

Amen to that brotha!

Im glad your making progress Dream

 

[UlfrRiorwa]

oohhh im very anxious to see the outcome of this !

Amen to that brotha!

Im glad your making progress Dream

you are christian? i am christian too !

 

[[D]aRk[D]rEam]

oohhh im very anxious to see the outcome of this !

Amen to that brotha!

Im glad your making progress Dream

you are christian? i am christian too !

Ah ah ah I think that this is going a bit OT but well i'm a christian too XD. Now regarding the translation I have to say that UlfrRiorwa is a big help out here, he already done so much in so little time

 

[UlfrRiorwa]

UPDATE : healing item descriptions translated

pilot status screen 90% translated what in the world this means? のっているゾイドの　あたりやすさの　しゅうせいりつ if you know just tell us XDD

ok, here's the deal.... after i end up translating deck commands ther will be an alpha release... testers must point up here and ill PM you with the release when its ready... probably... sunday...

our target is to make a fully translated interface and we will not translate history dialog..

why?

because this game is encripted as shit ! and we dont have speciallized tools/we are not HEX experts... if someone who masters CrystalTyle shows up with a way to dump dialogs in a format that i can simply translate it and then re taking it inside the game this COULD be possible... also we need someone who can sucessfully dump image files from the menu's so we can translate them...

thats all for now...

Ulfr Riorwa, 2nd Lt. Helic Army
"Wasteland wolves" Squad Leader

 

[Phoenix Goddess]

You don't have to be a master of hex editors to know how to dump the script. It sounds like you need a programmer.

 

[Cubioh]

Guys, this is great news!

In my opinion, whatever you can do, that would be great. There are faqs around for figuring out where to go, but playing with skill/ item names in english will make a huge difference!

Maybe sometime later on, tools might be developed to make it easier to do a whole translation, but until then, this would be pretty good! (anyway, isn't the game an update of zoids legends on gba advance? if so the story should be similar).

 

[rastsan]

Use tinke to dump the ncer cell images. Its the only way to get them done right. but warning you will find alot of it re-uses graphic parts. (see the zoid names graphic those files need a real good go over with someone willing to re-write the entire ncer cell by cell. Which can be done you just need patience.) use batchlz to decompress then you may need to use kiwi ds to make a narc out of those files. then edit those files in the narc. I find ct2 better for nscr and tinke for ncer is best.
Again do a memory dump, find the pointers to the text in the memory dump and work from that. のっているゾイドの　あたりやすさの　しゅうせいりつ may not even go together. it could be the 1st part and something else entirely or them all by themselves you won't know until you look.
As to tools normmat's tools for the text work fine until some files. which since those tools come with a file structure - are not hard to edit in a hex editor.

 

[shikamarutak]

so happy to see this back online been watching this from the start UlfrRiorwa ill be a tester if you like, im useing an R4 (wood) card will that be ok?

 

[shikamarutak]

UPDATE : healing item descriptions translated

pilot status screen 90% translated what in the world this means? のっているゾイドの　あたりやすさの　しゅうせいりつ if you know just tell us XDD

ok, here's the deal.... after i end up translating deck commands ther will be an alpha release... testers must point up here and ill PM you with the release when its ready... probably... sunday...

our target is to make a fully translated interface and we will not translate history dialog..

why?

because this game is encripted as shit ! and we dont have speciallized tools/we are not HEX experts... if someone who masters CrystalTyle shows up with a way to dump dialogs in a format that i can simply translate it and then re taking it inside the game this COULD be possible... also we need someone who can sucessfully dump image files from the menu's so we can translate them...

thats all for now...

Ulfr Riorwa, 2nd Lt. Helic Army
"Wasteland wolves" Squad Leader

ok here is what i got in the translation :のっているゾイドの　あたりやすさの　しゅうせいりつ=zoids ride formation. i looked it up in a Jap to Eng translate book, there were more bits to it but this made more sence when i translated. hope this helps in some way.

 

[uns33n]

so happy to see this back online been watching this from the start UlfrRiorwa ill be a tester if you like, im useing an R4 (wood) card will that be ok?

Been here from the start have tried to contribute with not much success before (my translators didn't like the project... actually it was more the formatting but who cares)
um it'd be great if I could be a tester I'm using the same thing as that guy. Already have the game ready so let me know.

 

[dominick1233]

If needed/when needed I could test it out on my Acekard2

 

[Skelletonike]

One thing I find ironic in most translation request is that most people will just volunteer themselves to be beta testers, when they probably don't even realise what beta testing involves, heck... It can be a very tedious task, the job of a beta tester is to check out for bugs and see if the game can be played properly, sometimes they have to replay the same level, dungeon or whatever it is over and over just so they can figure if there really is a bug or not (sometimes bugs are triggered by certain strings of choices/actions iirc), anyway, people that just want to play and enjoy the game, will in most cases, fail to contribute on beta testing. z.z"


Well, on topic, if this game does indeed get a full translation, it would be really awesome, since I've loved Zoids since I was younger. =3

 

[uns33n]

One thing I find ironic in most translation request is that most people will just volunteer themselves to be beta testers, when they probably don't even realise what beta testing involves, heck... It can be a very tedious task, the job of a beta tester is to check out for bugs and see if the game can be played properly, sometimes they have to replay the same level, dungeon or whatever it is over and over just so they can figure if there really is a bug or not (sometimes bugs are triggered by certain strings of choices/actions iirc), anyway, people that just want to play and enjoy the game, will in most cases, fail to contribute on beta testing. z.z"


Well, on topic, if this game does indeed get a full translation, it would be really awesome, since I've loved Zoids since I was younger. =3

I understand what you mean about beta testing cause I know people who've done it and it's a really time consuming job. If I didn't have time I wouldn't have volunteered but hey if you're volunteering too and you make the cut then I'll feel more confident cause there's someone experienced on the team.

 

[Skelletonike]

One thing I find ironic in most translation request is that most people will just volunteer themselves to be beta testers, when they probably don't even realise what beta testing involves, heck... It can be a very tedious task, the job of a beta tester is to check out for bugs and see if the game can be played properly, sometimes they have to replay the same level, dungeon or whatever it is over and over just so they can figure if there really is a bug or not (sometimes bugs are triggered by certain strings of choices/actions iirc), anyway, people that just want to play and enjoy the game, will in most cases, fail to contribute on beta testing. z.z"


Well, on topic, if this game does indeed get a full translation, it would be really awesome, since I've loved Zoids since I was younger. =3

I understand what you mean about beta testing cause I know people who've done it and it's a really time consuming job. If I didn't have time I wouldn't have volunteered but hey if you're volunteering too and you make the cut then I'll feel more confident cause there's someone experienced on the team.

Oh, I wasn't referring to anyone in specific, just something that I see in pretty much all translation threads, be it here, or in other forums and I'm not volunteering, I was just giving my opinion on this beta testing issue that a lot of people seem to misunderstand. z.z

 

[uns33n]

Oh, I wasn't referring to anyone in specific, just something that I see in pretty much all translation threads, be it here, or in other forums and I'm not volunteering, I was just giving my opinion on this beta testing issue that a lot of people seem to misunderstand. z.z

I see well thanks for the input hopefully other people read it cause it is useful.

 

[bahamut920]

One thing I find ironic in most translation request is that most people will just volunteer themselves to be beta testers, when they probably don't even realise what beta testing involves, heck... It can be a very tedious task, the job of a beta tester is to check out for bugs and see if the game can be played properly, sometimes they have to replay the same level, dungeon or whatever it is over and over just so they can figure if there really is a bug or not (sometimes bugs are triggered by certain strings of choices/actions iirc), anyway, people that just want to play and enjoy the game, will in most cases, fail to contribute on beta testing. z.z"


Well, on topic, if this game does indeed get a full translation, it would be really awesome, since I've loved Zoids since I was younger. =3

Truth. If you're beta testing a game, you have to play it to break it. This means not only playing the same stage/race/battle dozens, or perhaps hundreds of times, it also means trying to cause crashes. You have to test how every ability in the game interacts with every other ability, deliberately play suboptimally (for example, spending an entire race in a racing game crashing into walls trying to break collision detection), and basically try anything and everything you can think of to cause glitches. And you have to document everything. Even small glitches like the text running off the edge of a dialogue box, or text color changing at inappropriate times, has to be reported to the hackers in exhaustive detail, including the exact circumstances under which the glitch happened.

Generally, with a translation patch, all you have to test is any area where text has been changed, and you usually don't have to check things like physics or collision, but considering that can easily be half to three-quarters of the game (especially in an RPG), there's still a lot of testing to be done.

Personally, I don't have the patience for it, and I know it. I'd never volunteer to beta test anything, because it's a long, boring process involving tedious experimentation and documentation.

 

[Normmatt]

During the last day or two I've whipped together a gui event text editor in C# that should work for all the events although I haven't tested them yet. It loads in the LZ77 compressed events and saves them LZ77 compressed so no having to run batch scripts all the time. I'm planning to add support for the file formats in the str folder as well at some stage. I am busy with other things at the moment but I will try to look into implementing a VWF for this game.

 

[StorMyu]

t I will try to look into implementing a VWF for this game.

Oh yeah finaly someone is motivated enough xD

 

[darklordfang404]

everybody that is working on this is one of the 2 parts of my hero of the day the other is digimon story lost evolution

 

[UlfrRiorwa]

ok im not dead im nooot dead XD this project still ongoing but i was trough a lot and i wasnt able to connect but im back to work already