Windows 10

[filfat]

I have, and Windows 8/Metro was such a royal pain in ass that I gave it up. No browser addons, no browsers other than MSIE (now I see there are unstable Firefox nightly builds for Windows 8) limited game/app options, having to go through a page of crap like news, stocks, and weather to start programs, having to use Google Docs because Libreoffice/Openoffice haven't been ported to Windows 8 yet, and so on. Not to mention that typing with a touch keyboard got pretty painful after a while and the voice input didn't work very well either. This was also on a completely stock Windows 8/8.1 system, nothing changed and no hacks like ModernMix or Classic Shell either.

You know that everything that were supported in 7 is supported in 8 too right... and to be fair even if it was as you said with not being able to use openoffice, who cares? We got Microsoft Office.

 

[Foxi4]

I have, and Windows 8/Metro was such a royal pain in ass that I gave it up. No browser addons, no browsers other than MSIE (now I see there are unstable Firefox nightly builds for Windows 8) limited game/app options, having to go through a page of crap like news, stocks, and weather to start programs, having to use Google Docs because Libreoffice/Openoffice haven't been ported to Windows 8 yet, and so on. Not to mention that typing with a touch keyboard got pretty painful after a while and the voice input didn't work very well either. This was also on a completely stock Windows 8/8.1 system, nothing changed and no hacks like ModernMix or Classic Shell either.

Wat? I'm running Windows 8.1 and standard Windows 7 builds work perfectly fine. My Chrome browser has several extensions and none give me any trouble whatsoever since the browser is an isolated environment that's very much OS-independent when it comes to extensions. There's actually two versions of Chrome for Windows 8 - the Desktop Edition and the Metro Edition and both work great. OpenOffice also doesn't have to be ported to Windows 8 because Windows 8 runs Windows 7 applications without any hiccups. Have you actually done any testing whatsoever or are you inventing non-existant problems? I am yet to find a single program that would work on Windows 7 and would not work on Windows 8.1.

Out of curiosity, why not install and run the AV in virtual machine, when needed? Usually uninstalling any software will not fully remove the said software, they tends to leave garbage behind and also leaves your registry in disarray and thus could impact performance in some way regardless. I could be wrong though.

I clean and defragment my registery regularly, I don't see why I'd have to complicate my life with adding a virtual machine to the mix. My OS is always squeaky clean, partially because it doesn't run background bullshit.

 

[Tom Bombadildo]

I have, and Windows 8/Metro was such a royal pain in ass that I gave it up. No browser addons, no browsers other than MSIE (now I see there are unstable Firefox nightly builds for Windows 8) limited game/app options, having to go through a page of crap like news, stocks, and weather to start programs, having to use Google Docs because Libreoffice/Openoffice haven't been ported to Windows 8 yet, and so on. Not to mention that typing with a touch keyboard got pretty painful after a while and the voice input didn't work very well either. This was also on a completely stock Windows 8/8.1 system, nothing changed and no hacks like ModernMix or Classic Shell either.

This screams "I've only spent 1 minute using Windows 8/8.1".

A), you can get rid of booting to metro.
B), every browser has stable builds on 8/8.1, no idea where you get "ONLY USING IE ". There's desktop mode browsers and addons and shit and whatever and there have been for agggggggggggges.
C), Open Office has been supported on 8 for aggggggggggggggggggggggggggges as well, I used it when I first got my Windows 8 install
D), Typing with all touch keyboards is shit. Pro tip, use a physical keyboard

As I continue to read your inherent shitpost, I have to ask. Are you talking about Windows RT or something? Are you complaining about an ARM device not having x86 apps? Are you just...stupid?

 

[Arras]

Wat? I'm running Windows 8.1 and standard Windows 7 builds work perfectly fine. My Chrome browser has several extensions and none give me any trouble whatsoever since the browser is an isolated environment that's very much OS-independent when it comes to extensions. There's actually two versions of Chrome for Windows 8 - the Desktop Edition and the Metro Edition and both work great. OpenOffice also doesn't have to be ported to Windows 8 because Windows 8 runs Windows 7 applications without any hiccups. Have you actually done any testing whatsoever or are you inventing non-existant problems?

I don't know why, but this guy pretends Windows 8 classic desktop mode doesn't exist ("it's a hack" or something) and there's only metro apps. Has done so for a long time.

 

[Kane49]

I switched from 8.1 to 7 on my desktop because of an issue with driver level programming, loving 8.1 on my tablet and anywhere else though ^^

 

[Foxi4]

I don't know why, but this guy pretends Windows 8 classic desktop mode doesn't exist ("it's a hack" or something) and there's only metro apps. Has done so for a long time.

This just might be it. Maybe he's yet to find the huge "Desktop" button right there on the screen.

As I continue to read your inherent shitpost, I have to ask. Are you talking about Windows RT or something?

This is also possible. Doesn't Metro and RT use the same application framework? Pretty sure they do.

I switched from 8.1 to 7 on my desktop because of an issue with driver level programming, loving 8.1 on my tablet and anywhere else though ^^

Here I can agree, there are still some issues with drivers when it comes to obsolete devices, but that's hardly Microsoft's fault, they're not the ones making the drivers. I was recently working with a laptop equipped with an Intel Wi-Fi chip that had issues in 8.1, which is the only reason why I installed 7 on the machine. That's Intel's problem though - they're the ones who write the drivers, they should update them.

 

[Tom Bombadildo]

I don't know why, but this guy pretends Windows 8 classic desktop mode doesn't exist ("it's a hack" or something) and there's only metro apps. Has done so for a long time.

Actually, I think he's talking about using Windows RT. Like, all of his complaints are the same things people complain about with Microsoft's Surface tablets that used Windows RT.

 

[Arras]

Actually, I think he's talking about using Windows RT. Like, all of his complaints are the same things people complain about with Microsoft's Surface tablets that used Windows RT.

That depends. You can't play MKVs or use media player classic in Metro/Modern mode. As for how far of a step down it is, if you use things like start8/classic start menu to stay in desktop mode then it isn't a step down at all though do you really want to have to pay $50 for Object Desktop just to make it work more or less like 7. However, if you stick mostly to Metro/Modern (and treat the desktop as a legacy mode that should be avoided as much as possible) like you are supposed to then it is a huge step down. You can't even choose your own wallpaper image and can't really multitask at all. Not to mention the only browser allowed is IE without any addons or plugins so forget about essentials like adblock. Think Windows 1.0.

 

[Tom Bombadildo]

Ah, so he's just stupid

 

[Foxi4]

"Desktop Mode is legacy, but Metro sucks, so I revert to a legacy OS that doesn't even have Metro and use a Legacy Legacy Desktop Mode". Okay?

 

[Ulieq]

The whiners won, Start is back. Yay? I haven't used the Start menu for years, stopped long before the Metro interface replaced it. Essentially it was just a quick way for me to enter the Command Line, but in Metro all I have to do is press the Windows key and type in the name of whatever app I want to start, so yeah - no loss in productivity, and I'd argue it was actually beneficial. Of course people would sooner hang themselves than get used to a new interface.

Na, point and click is MUCH faster than what you described.

 

[Foxi4]

Na, point and click is MUCH faster than what you described.

Point and click several times is faster than point and click once? Okay. Not to mention that keystrokes are even faster.

 

[YayMii]

The funny thing is, they've added a lot of features to the Desktop in Windows 8/8.1. I honestly don't understand why most haters still consider it a "legacy mode".

 

[Foxi4]

The funny thing is, they've added a lot of features to the Desktop in Windows 8/8.1. I honestly don't understand why most haters still consider it a "legacy mode".

Desktop Mode was never meant to be legacy, Metro is merely a UI to launch Desktop applications and dock Metro applications, it's not an OS in and out of itself.

 

[nl255]

Desktop Mode was never meant to be legacy, Metro is merely a UI to launch Desktop applications and dock Metro applications, it's not an OS in and out of itself.

Yes it was. Why don't you actually read the stuff that Microsoft put out about Windows 8 before and during it's release. The whole point was that the desktop was obsolete and touch/voice and Metro were the future.

The funny thing is, they've added a lot of features to the Desktop in Windows 8/8.1. I honestly don't understand why most haters still consider it a "legacy mode".

Because Microsoft pretty much said so in their Windows 8 marketing materials.

I don't know why, but this guy pretends Windows 8 classic desktop mode doesn't exist ("it's a hack" or something) and there's only metro apps. Has done so for a long time.

Well considering Metro is the whole point of Windows 8 and Microsoft's own marketing materials have said that Metro/touch/voice are the future why would you install and test a brand new OS and then just use the old stuff?

 

[Foxi4]

Yes it was. Why don't you actually read the stuff that Microsoft put out about Windows 8 before and during it's release. The whole point was that the desktop was obsolete and touch/voice and Metro were the future.

I have never heard of Microsoft calling Desktop Mode "legacy", they called the old Start UI legacy.

 

[nl255]

This screams "I've only spent 1 minute using Windows 8/8.1".

A), you can get rid of booting to metro.
B), every browser has stable builds on 8/8.1, no idea where you get "ONLY USING IE ". There's desktop mode browsers and addons and shit and whatever and there have been for agggggggggggges.
C), Open Office has been supported on 8 for aggggggggggggggggggggggggggges as well, I used it when I first got my Windows 8 install
D), Typing with all touch keyboards is shit. Pro tip, use a physical keyboard

As I continue to read your inherent shitpost, I have to ask. Are you talking about Windows RT or something? Are you complaining about an ARM device not having x86 apps? Are you just...stupid?

No, I was using Windows 8 as intended by Microsoft and their marketing materials. As in Metro is supposed to be the future.

 

[Foxi4]

No, I was using Windows 8 as intended by Microsoft and their marketing materials. As in Metro is supposed to be the future.

Show us that promotional material that we're unaware of. Last time I checked, they heavily advertised Metro docking and the simultaneous use of native OS applications and Metro framework applications. Metro "revolutionizes" working with desktops in the sense that docked applications can provide additional functionality while you're using normal programs.

 

[migles]

wow, Hitler is still alive i knew it!

 

[Kayot]

I haven't used AV since the infamous '08 wipe of every crack/keygen in my archive. At the time I believed that AV software was for finding viruses. I had no idea that software companies issued fake reports against cracked executables. The end result was the system kindly auto-deleted my cracks right out of their compressed archives and recompressed them and the final report simply stated that it took care of it, Avast Antivirus. No pool, no safe storage, and no recovery. Ever since then I've been leery of AV software. It's like closet DRM.

I didn't like Windows 8/8.1 because the tile interface didn't allow easy customizing. I had to use a separate program to make tiles, and the more complicated the tile, the harder it was to make. That should have been built into the system. I do like the Picture Viewer, though I wish it had cbz support. One of my systems has a 24' touch screen (150$ Hanspree) and Windows 8.1 runs great on it. My other system that I game on is using Windows 7. I left XP a while back because my gaming rig has a solid state as it's main drive.

I've used Linux (Debian, Ubuntu, Mint [MATE], and Arch) and while it was a stable system, my chief complain was the elitism. While I was easily able to find support for basics, finding things like aufs and mhddfs support was rough. Then there is gaming. Wine is good, but not great. I tried using PlayOnLinux only to find that it wanted to install steam for games that I had clearly cracked. When I asked about how to bypass steam I was slammed. One stated that if I wanted to be a pirate (including lots of insults) then I should stick with windows. So I did. I swapped my server from a Debian Server to 2012r2 and I've been using Windows since.

I may try 10 to see if they fixed the tile issue. It's not a priority, though I will suggest that they add cbz support to the picture viewer. I figure Windows XP+ can already work with zip files so it shouldn't be a stretch.