Hacking WiiFlow - an open source GUI USB-Loader

[mugotu]

I have two different forwarders that worked before but now don't work off the NTFS drive. It runs fine through Homebrew though.
Anyone know whether new forwarders are required? Has anyone got f414 working from a forwarder off NTFS?

Get the latest one here:
sites.google.com/site/wiiflowiki/installing/wiiflow-forwarders/channel-forwarders

ahhh, thought this site was gone, I new it was here just could not find it.
You are a legend, thanks
will test and give feedback

ok, now I think I have pooped something.
I can't install any wad from either wad manager or Multi Mod Manager.
I am getting ticket (-2011) error. Can't seem to find any solutions, been looking.
Can anyone suggest what to do? or give me a link to where I can get help?

wiiflowiki.com or wiiflow.org works again, we moved to a mediawiki setup and are still working on it, but I think it has a good bit of informations already, including controls and downloads.

 

[bostonBC]

Since it appears to cause a dramatic slowdown and everything else looks like it works w/o it is there a way to remove the addition of

url_flat_covers_id6=http://wiitdb.com/wiitdb/artwork/cover/{loc}/{gameid6}.png|http://wiitdb.com/wiitdb/artwork/cover/EN/{gameid6}.png|http://wiitdb.com/wiitdb/artwork/cover/other/{gameid6}.png
url_full_covers_id6=http://wiitdb.com/wiitdb/artwork/coverfullHQ/{loc}/{gameid6}.png|http://wiitdb.com/wiitdb/artwork/coverfullHQ/EN/{gameid6}.png|http://wiitdb.com/wiitdb/artwork/coverfullHQ/other/{gameid6}.png|http://wiitdb.com/wiitdb/artwork/coverfull/{loc}/{gameid6}.png|http://wiitdb.com/wiitdb/artwork/coverfull/EN/{gameid6}.png|http://wiitdb.com/wiitdb/artwork/coverfull/other/{gameid6}.png

to the wiiflow.ini when the user goes to the download covers/WiiTDB pages? I think that will fix the problem I am seeing and probably make loading of Wiiflow much faster for everyone else too.

I just noticed that on a small 80GB drive that I have about 100 games loaded it takes 5 progress bar back and forths before the menu comes up when the cover urls are in the wiiflow.ini and less than 2 when it is removed. On my 2TB drive with 1050 games it takes about 30 progress bar back and forths before the menu loads and again less than 2 when it is removed.

This is very strange, these lines are only used when updating or downloading covers...it should not matter for the menu and showing the covers.

I am curious now how many more ppl have this particular problem..

The place it appears to lag is on the WiiFlow splash screen where the progress dots go back and forth. Here are some timings I made on mt 2TB drive when I moved various numbers of games into the wbfs folder, cleared the cache/list and settings menus and left the urls in the wiiflow.ini file

The progress dots go back and forth for about 1.75 times and then depending on the number of games there is a lag where it appears the system is hung before the menu comes up with the last progress dot appearing stuck on the screen.

Games Lag
250 instant
500 4.5 sec
600 8.5 sec
725 14 sec
850 22 sec
950 29 sec
1050 38 sec

If I remove the urls from the wiiflow.ini the lag is zero no matter how many games I've tried.

I have a feeling only people with very large collections will see this. Most folks with a 1TB drive and 400-500 games will probably just barely notice it. But if you delete those lines from the wiiflow.ini file you will see that the menu loads much quicker.

The menu initialization routine or whatever happens at the end of the progress bar loading must be looking at those ini items and depending on the number of games it must be processing or trying to process something.

Since it appears to be created internally when the user downloads a cover why is it in the wiiflow.ini file? If the routine that actually checks those urls is checked I bet you will find it's looping through the entire game list doing something.

For now I am going to remove those lines and tell people I know to remove them especially if they have a lot of games until this can be fixed.

Are there any other folks here with large collections that validate that removing those lines fixes the problem? Everytime I download a new cover I have to connect it up to my PC and remove those lines so this will get old quick as I add new games and download covers so it would be terrific if this issue could be looked at and if possible resolved. Thanks!

 

[drvipej]

Are there any other folks here with large collections that validate that removing those lines fixes the problem? Everytime I download a new cover I have to connect it up to my PC and remove those lines so this will get old quick as I add new games and download covers so it would be terrific if this issue could be looked at and if possible resolved. Thanks!

yes, yes, yes, I am running a NTFS 2TB, but I don't have that many games though.

since I have recently gone to r414 and come to think of it, once I use the download missing covers it regularly freezing at the loading screen as described.
It also does not seem to want to exit to Menu and freezes with the dots going left and right, although it is setup correctly.
The only thing I have not done is install d2x7fix, I installed 249 d2x6[56].
To resolve both of the above, I just turn off the power and say to myself: 'there are very talented people that are already working on these issues...I will wait patiently'

Regards to all that deserve it.

 

[bostonBC]

Are there any other folks here with large collections that validate that removing those lines fixes the problem? Everytime I download a new cover I have to connect it up to my PC and remove those lines so this will get old quick as I add new games and download covers so it would be terrific if this issue could be looked at and if possible resolved. Thanks!

yes, yes, yes, I am running a NTFS 2TB, but I don't have that many games though.

since I have recently gone to r414 and come to think of it, once I use the download missing covers it regularly freezing at the loading screen as described.
It also does not seem to want to exit to Menu and freezes with the dots going left and right, although it is setup correctly.
The only thing I have not done is install d2x7fix, I installed 249 d2x6[56].
To resolve both of the above, I just turn off the power and say to myself: 'there are very talented people that are already working on these issues...I will wait patiently'

Regards to all that deserve it.

Thanks for confirming it's not just me :-)

I am actually running it as a 2TB FAT32 formatte with 32K clusters but the symptoms are the same.

If you wait long enough the menu does load. If you want to make it faster remove those url line from the wiiflow.ini and the menu loads instantly.

Also hoping someone will find a fix for it soon.

 

[Etheboss]

Are there any other folks here with large collections that validate that removing those lines fixes the problem? Everytime I download a new cover I have to connect it up to my PC and remove those lines so this will get old quick as I add new games and download covers so it would be terrific if this issue could be looked at and if possible resolved. Thanks!

yes, yes, yes, I am running a NTFS 2TB, but I don't have that many games though.

since I have recently gone to r414 and come to think of it, once I use the download missing covers it regularly freezing at the loading screen as described.
It also does not seem to want to exit to Menu and freezes with the dots going left and right, although it is setup correctly.
The only thing I have not done is install d2x7fix, I installed 249 d2x6[56].
To resolve both of the above, I just turn off the power and say to myself: 'there are very talented people that are already working on these issues...I will wait patiently'

Regards to all that deserve it.

Thanks for confirming it's not just me :-)

I am actually running it as a 2TB FAT32 formatte with 32K clusters but the symptoms are the same.

If you wait long enough the menu does load. If you want to make it faster remove those url line from the wiiflow.ini and the menu loads instantly.

Also hoping someone will find a fix for it soon.

Someone on Wiiflow IRC suggested using 8K clustersize..

Did you try that already?

 

[bostonBC]

Are there any other folks here with large collections that validate that removing those lines fixes the problem? Everytime I download a new cover I have to connect it up to my PC and remove those lines so this will get old quick as I add new games and download covers so it would be terrific if this issue could be looked at and if possible resolved. Thanks!

yes, yes, yes, I am running a NTFS 2TB, but I don't have that many games though.

since I have recently gone to r414 and come to think of it, once I use the download missing covers it regularly freezing at the loading screen as described.
It also does not seem to want to exit to Menu and freezes with the dots going left and right, although it is setup correctly.
The only thing I have not done is install d2x7fix, I installed 249 d2x6[56].
To resolve both of the above, I just turn off the power and say to myself: 'there are very talented people that are already working on these issues...I will wait patiently'

Regards to all that deserve it.

Thanks for confirming it's not just me :-)

I am actually running it as a 2TB FAT32 formatte with 32K clusters but the symptoms are the same.

If you wait long enough the menu does load. If you want to make it faster remove those url line from the wiiflow.ini and the menu loads instantly.

Also hoping someone will find a fix for it soon.

Someone on Wiiflow IRC suggested using 8K clustersize..

Did you try that already?

I don't believe that will work on a 2TB drive as with 8K clusters your max volume is 64GB.

 

[madrat]

Is the R414 stable?
In the HBC I have no picture, so perhaps the icon doesn't fix to HBC?

 

[bostonBC]

Are there any other folks here with large collections that validate that removing those lines fixes the problem? Everytime I download a new cover I have to connect it up to my PC and remove those lines so this will get old quick as I add new games and download covers so it would be terrific if this issue could be looked at and if possible resolved. Thanks!

yes, yes, yes, I am running a NTFS 2TB, but I don't have that many games though.

since I have recently gone to r414 and come to think of it, once I use the download missing covers it regularly freezing at the loading screen as described.
It also does not seem to want to exit to Menu and freezes with the dots going left and right, although it is setup correctly.
The only thing I have not done is install d2x7fix, I installed 249 d2x6[56].
To resolve both of the above, I just turn off the power and say to myself: 'there are very talented people that are already working on these issues...I will wait patiently'

Regards to all that deserve it.

Thanks for confirming it's not just me :-)

I am actually running it as a 2TB FAT32 formatte with 32K clusters but the symptoms are the same.

If you wait long enough the menu does load. If you want to make it faster remove those url line from the wiiflow.ini and the menu loads instantly.

Also hoping someone will find a fix for it soon.

Someone on Wiiflow IRC suggested using 8K clustersize..

Did you try that already?

I don't believe that will work on a 2TB drive as with 8K clusters your max volume is 64GB.

I just checked on a spare 2TB drive and with 8K clusters it formats to 837GB according to Windows so that won't be a good solution.

 

[jefftheriffer]

Read this: http://wiiflowiki.com.previewdns.com/index...w:Emulated_Nand

Remember I wrote it yesterday and it's still not perfect

It's actually pretty damn decent, though upgrading from the year+ old version I had took me over a day with all the CIOS updates, reformatting my drive, etc...

I have found several issues that I can't seem to find any solutions for.

1) Occasionally Wiiflow will freeze suddenly and I have to powercycle. Sometimes when it freezes, the background music keeps playing though. It seems most likely to freeze if I zoom in on a game and then start flipping through them.

2) The cover downloading doesn't seem to be working. I tried downloading covers for my channels and homebrew apps and while it goes through the whole process, displays status updates and SEEMS to be downloading stuff, in the end it'll say "0/29 covers downloaded". I checked the wiiflow.ini file and the URL settings look good, and I tested a few of them for some of the channels I have (like Homebrew channel) and it displayed the PNG no problem. So I'm not sure what the issue there is.

If there's a way to enable any logging or such, let me know and I'll be happy to provide more details.

 

[FIX94]

1) Occasionally Wiiflow will freeze suddenly and I have to powercycle. Sometimes when it freezes, the background music keeps playing though. It seems most likely to freeze if I zoom in on a game and then start flipping through them.
Remember it's a beta version so it's normal.

QUOTE(jefftheriffer @ Sep 9 2011, 04:00 AM) 2) The cover downloading doesn't seem to be working. I tried downloading covers for my channels and homebrew apps and while it goes through the whole process, displays status updates and SEEMS to be downloading stuff, in the end it'll say "0/29 covers downloaded". I checked the wiiflow.ini file and the URL settings look good, and I tested a few of them for some of the channels I have (like Homebrew channel) and it displayed the PNG no problem. So I'm not sure what the issue there is.

Hm I'll ask around, maybe we find a solution.

 

[sdoc96]

1) Occasionally Wiiflow will freeze suddenly and I have to powercycle. Sometimes when it freezes, the background music keeps playing though. It seems most likely to freeze if I zoom in on a game and then start flipping through them.
Same here. Understand it's probably beta issues as FIX94 suggests.
QUOTE(jefftheriffer @ Sep 9 2011, 12:00 PM) 2) The cover downloading doesn't seem to be working. I tried downloading covers for my channels and homebrew apps and while it goes through the whole process, displays status updates and SEEMS to be downloading stuff, in the end it'll say "0/29 covers downloaded". I checked the wiiflow.ini file and the URL settings look good, and I tested a few of them for some of the channels I have (like Homebrew channel) and it displayed the PNG no problem. So I'm not sure what the issue there is.

The cover downloads are working for me, albeit buggy and can hang occasionally, but again I understand this is probably due to the beta status.
I initially deleted a lot of stuff including the ini's/cache/wiitdb files to eliminate possible errors, if that helps.

 

[drvipej]

ok, now I think I have pooped something.
I can't install any wad from either wad manager or Multi Mod Manager.
I am getting ticket (-2011) error. Can't seem to find any solutions, been looking.
Can anyone suggest what to do? or give me a link to where I can get help?

Try installing the wad with another IOS, 236 usually works

um, why then can I install '8Bits-FIX94v11b3forwarder-DWFA.wad' ( I don't think it is suitable for small kids to see a girl in a bikini on the cover though)
and I cannot install '1 WiiFlow-Default forwarder-FIX94v11b3-DWFA.wad', getting error (-1035)?

 

[Etheboss]

um, why then can I install '8Bits-FIX94v11b3forwarder-DWFA.wad' ( I don't think it is suitable for small kids to see a girl in a bikini on the cover though)
and I cannot install '1 WiiFlow-Default forwarder-FIX94v11b3-DWFA.wad', getting error (-1035)?

OK, i am gonna check that myself..

 

[jefftheriffer]

1) Occasionally Wiiflow will freeze suddenly and I have to powercycle. Sometimes when it freezes, the background music keeps playing though. It seems most likely to freeze if I zoom in on a game and then start flipping through them.
Remember it's a beta version so it's normal.

Understood, though again I'm willing to provide more technical details (logs, etc) if that would help.

I forgot to mention that there is also an oddity where the Wiimote will take an extra long time to pair when WiiFlow starts, sometimes as long as 20 seconds though usually only 10.

QUOTE(jefftheriffer @ Sep 9 2011, 04:00 AM) 2) The cover downloading doesn't seem to be working. I tried downloading covers for my channels and homebrew apps and while it goes through the whole process, displays status updates and SEEMS to be downloading stuff, in the end it'll say "0/29 covers downloaded". I checked the wiiflow.ini file and the URL settings look good, and I tested a few of them for some of the channels I have (like Homebrew channel) and it displayed the PNG no problem. So I'm not sure what the issue there is.

Hm I'll ask around, maybe we find a solution.

Thanks!

 

[mugotu]

ok, now I think I have pooped something.
I can't install any wad from either wad manager or Multi Mod Manager.
I am getting ticket (-2011) error. Can't seem to find any solutions, been looking.
Can anyone suggest what to do? or give me a link to where I can get help?
Try installing the wad with another IOS, 236 usually works


um, why then can I install '8Bits-FIX94v11b3forwarder-DWFA.wad' ( I don't think it is suitable for small kids to see a girl in a bikini on the cover though)
and I cannot install '1 WiiFlow-Default forwarder-FIX94v11b3-DWFA.wad', getting error (-1035)?

Try removing the "1 " from the name before you install it.

QUOTE

I just checked on a spare 2TB drive and with 8K clusters it formats to 837GB according to Windows so that won't be a good solution.

32K cluster size. 8k is just retardedly too small.

 

[FIX94]

I forgot to mention that there is also an oddity where the Wiimote will take an extra long time to pair when WiiFlow starts, sometimes as long as 20 seconds though usually only 10.
That's normal too, no idea whats up with wiiflow in this point, other usb loaders don't have the problem.

QUOTE(jefftheriffer @ Sep 9 2011, 04:00 AM) displays status updates and SEEMS to be downloading stuff, in the end it'll say "0/29 covers downloaded".

Cover download should work fine, it works fine for everyone else.

 

[jefftheriffer]

I forgot to mention that there is also an oddity where the Wiimote will take an extra long time to pair when WiiFlow starts, sometimes as long as 20 seconds though usually only 10.
That's normal too, no idea whats up with wiiflow in this point, other usb loaders don't have the problem.

An earlier version of WiiFlow didn't have this issue. My guess, without any visibility into how it works, is that the bluetooth antenna is re-initiated but WiiFlow doesn't engage the bluetooth module right away. Maybe interrupt handling, or perhaps a delay loop had an extra zero added onto the end?

QUOTE(jefftheriffer @ Sep 9 2011, 04:00 AM) displays status updates and SEEMS to be downloading stuff, in the end it'll say "0/29 covers downloaded".

Cover download should work fine, it works fine for everyone else.

I have all the covers for my disc games. I checked manually against all my channels by using ShowMiiWads to look-up the codes and searching for them on Wiitdb. It turns out that for most of them there was indeed no match, but there were a handful where there was an image, mainly the various Strong Bad games. For those games, the only image available is not the standard boxart format, not even the flat box format. So I guess with those, the URL configurations didn't find those images.

I also manually downloaded some covers for Homebrew apps (Homebrew Browser, WiiEarth and Priiloader). But even after manually copying those files into place, they don't show up in WiiFlow. Assuming that featrure is supported, my only guess at this point is for some reason the ID codes for my apps don't match the files. Any idea on how I can see what the codes are for the Homebrew apps? Is that in the boot.dol file or something?

 

[bostonBC]

I think I just found a bug in r414 and am not sure if it's in earlier versions.

If you try to delete a game and that game is larger than 4GB and is split on a FAT32 formatted drive only one of the files is deleted and the game does not disappear from the menu.

 

[KTroopA]

Is there a working dol file for driver san francisco yet? If so which release please

 

[drvipej]

um, why then can I install '8Bits-FIX94v11b3forwarder-DWFA.wad' ( I don't think it is suitable for small kids to see a girl in a bikini on the cover though)
and I cannot install '1 WiiFlow-Default forwarder-FIX94v11b3-DWFA.wad', getting error (-1035)?

"Try removing the "1 " from the name before you install it."

mugotu, I tried renaming it and it is the same and does not work, must be me, not sure why, don't think it's the file...hmmmm, might just try and dl it again.

added: I just have also been installing other wads and all work fine except that one...