Hacking What IRC channel talks about Wii U hacking?

[Relys]

I tried joining #wiiuhack of efnet and I got kicked for trying to discuses development:

1<Relys> Does anyone know how Mario got ahold of the Wii U binaries to find ROP gadgets? I heard comex exploit allowed full memory access but Mario said he had to use the binaries to see where he was going. Just wondering if we're going to see a ROP loader for 5.0 so I can possibly do somethinguseful. :/
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<BillyRR> Relys i got no idea what u said but good luck Relys
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01<Relys> Well, it's quite simple billy. ROP stands for return oriented programming. You can use a series of "gadgets" (which are function calls) to set up a chain to load your own code.
01<Relys> The Wii Browser exploit that was released has ROP loaders for 4.0 and 4.1.
01<Relys> The offsets of where the gadgets exist change when Nintendo compiles a new binary.
01<Relys> We need to know these offsets so we can port the CafeOS userland exploit to 5.0
01<Relys> It's easy to see where these gadgets are if you have full memory access (which is what comex did). Marionumber1 found these gadgets by looking and a dumped binary from comex it looks like.
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01<Relys> We need a binary dump of 5.0 before the exploit can be ported.
<CwT> BillyRR u there?
01<Relys> But the vulnerability still exists. The offsets are just unknown.
01<Relys> Has anyone been poking around with RPC yet?
<@|Shadow|> we dont care
<BillyRR> yo im here
01<Relys> This is the wiiuhack channel correct? Am I in the wrong place?
<BillyRR> ur but it aint no #ps3dev :D
<BillyRR> wii stuff always has low support imo
01<Relys> What do you mean sir?
01<Relys> Where should I talk about this stuff then?
<BillyRR> so if u get access to cafeos on 5.0 than what
01<Relys> I'm a dev
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<BillyRR> maybe forums and such
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<@|Shadow|> cool story bro
01<Relys> I know PowerPC, C/C++ and Python so I thought it would be fun to start working on the Wii U now that things are coming along. I'm wondering where the technical people hang out?
<@|Shadow|> in my butt
01<Relys> If you get access on cafeos you can issue RPC commands to call the SDK functions in userland.
01<Relys> The next step is to break out of userland.
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01<Relys> And that's something I could actually work on.
<BillyRR> cool
<BillyRR> and than piracy? :D
<@|Shadow|> thats all we cre about
<@|Shadow|> so if itsz just lame ass homebrew
<@|Shadow|> we dont give a shit
01<Relys> That would be a side effect.
01<Relys> You need to break out of the userland sandbox and escilate your privlidge level
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01<Relys> This can be done through a kernel or IOS exploit which is what the HSREST exploit is about from what I hear.
01<Relys> Anyways, the browser exploit released allows you to run your own code and create a RPC socket to connect to over the network. It's kind of a HUGE deal and will lead to complete PWNAGE of the system, and yes piracy.
01<Relys> But the Wii U common key needs to be found for more stuff to be encrypted (Wii U key + ancast key)
<@|Shadow|> snoozvil
<@|Shadow|> when piracy is live wake me up
<dlukz> ^yup
01<Relys> Why don't you want to help though. It's more fun than games.
<@|Shadow|> WRONG
<@|Shadow|> games r more fun
01<Relys> No they aren't.
1<Relys> Games are boring compaired to gaining access to a system.
03* You were kicked by |Shadow| (yes they r)

I guess these skridz are what f0f meant as "lack of interest".

 

[Huntereb]

That looks like the most obviously fabricated chat log I have ever seen.

Surely this can't be real, can it?

 

[loco365]

That looks like the most obviously fabricated chat log I have ever seen.

Surely this can't be real, can it?

It probably is, but it seems that channel is more interested in the one thing no dev wants right now: piracy.

 

[the_randomizer]

The piss poor grammar makes it seem like it is real, no way that could be fabricated. And that Shadow guy, wow, he sure seems like he's an arrogant jerk.

Edit: Interesting, I think he's preventing anyone from joining the channel

 

[Mariko]

Relys  - I'm wondering where the technical people hang out?
Shadow - in my butt

Lololol ...

 

[the_randomizer]

Relys  - I'm wondering where the technical people hang out?
Shadow - in my butt

Lololol ...

I think that channel no longer exists, the IRC client won't connect to it, so yeah, oh well. Nothing but a bunch of punks.

 

[Relys]

I think that channel no longer exists, the IRC client won't connect to it, so yeah, oh well. Nothing but a bunch of punks.

No it's still up.

Is there a good channel somebody could recommend for developers?

 

[redact]

wow, that's discouraging...

try #wiiudev on efnet instead

 

[the_randomizer]

No it's still up.

Is there a good channel somebody could recommend for developers?

Odd, can't join the channel for some reason, probably just as well, as for a new place to discuss it, I honestly don't know. Those people on there are likely just being trolls, I doubt they have any repute really, at least, they don't seem like it.

Maybe #wiiudev...? I don't know for sure, I think it's a channel

 

[Vappy]

#wiiudev on efnet is, like mercluke and randomizer said, probably the one you want. I've never seen it particularly active, but a number of devs idle in there and are usually open to talk about interesting and relevant stuff.

 

[NWPlayer123]

There isn't any one in particular we use, I'd be more inclined to make a brand new one. I didn't even have #WiiUDev on my autojoin, that's how unimportant it is

 

[4KK]

|Shadow| is and always has been an ass. Just make your own chan, learn how to use chanserver.

 

[the_randomizer]

|Shadow| is and always has been an ass. Just make your own chan, learn how to use chanserver.

He'll kick anyone who has the guts to join the channel off now (he's a little arrogant numbnuts lol), a new channel would definitely be the better route to take

 

[Enigma Hall]

Please dont flood dev channels with bullshit. If you connect, only read the conversation.

 

[the_randomizer]

Please dont flood dev channels with bullshit. If you connect, only read the conversation.

Even if people like Shadow are arrogant little turds on those IRC channels? Or alternately, making a new channel could be done to any potential confrontation.

 

[Enigma Hall]

My Worry is about the true dev channels... Trollchannels are ok.

 

[Vipera]

I don't know what hurt my eyes more: the logs, reading "|Shadow|" or that awful default mIRC font...

 

[FearItSelf23]

That looks like the most obviously fabricated chat log I have ever seen.

Surely this can't be real, can it?

I've been told by a friend who has been to that channel before that Shadow is a fa**ot and just a moron really.

OP go to #dolphin-emu on freenode if you want to talk to actual devs.

 

[EthanObi]

Shadow is head of a Piracy chat on a different server, as well as a fairly known Dipshit on GBAtemp IRC, this isn't surprising.,,,

 

[JoostinOnline]

You'll find a lot of the devs at #vWii on Efnet. That's where I hang out.
Don't join there unless you are willing to help though. No discussion of piracy. Helping out doesn't necessarily mean you have to have hacking or reverse engineering skills. You can always be available just for running tests.