TiMeBoMb4u2: You assume I want to upgrade 4.1, I have no need since I don't do much with WiiWare/VC. I was talking 3.4--->3.2 which I'm not bothering with.
Having Homebrew does not make you a pirate. If you like a game BUY IT!lightyear said:Ohhh...ok....so if you've got homebrew then why are still using the shop channel anyway? lol @ anyone still paying for games after installing homebrew
Why don't you want to upgrade??mysticwaterfall said:TiMeBoMb4u2: You assume I want to upgrade 4.1, I have no need since I don't do much with WiiWare/VC. I was talking 3.4--->3.2 which I'm not bothering with.
Perhaps because there is absolutely no need to if you don't play VC games and even if you did you could always use Triiforce. I have yet to find any compelling reason to go beyond 3.2 either - especially as I have not downgraded to get to 3.2, so there is no future risk of bricking.TiMeBoMb4u2 said:Why don't you want to upgrade??mysticwaterfall said:TiMeBoMb4u2: You assume I want to upgrade 4.1, I have no need since I don't do much with WiiWare/VC. I was talking 3.4--->3.2 which I'm not bothering with.
ocdetective said:Perhaps because there is absolutely no need to if you don't play VC games and even if you did you could always use Triiforce. I have yet to find any compelling reason to go beyond 3.2 either - especially as I have not downgraded to get to 3.2, so there is no future risk of bricking.TiMeBoMb4u2 said:Why don't you want to upgrade??mysticwaterfall said:TiMeBoMb4u2: You assume I want to upgrade 4.1, I have no need since I don't do much with WiiWare/VC. I was talking 3.4--->3.2 which I'm not bothering with.
Well that analogy falls flat as 98 loads way faster than Vista so the only difference is the features and I have already covered that angle. Unless you think 4.0 or 4.1 are perceivably faster?TiMeBoMb4u2 said:ocdetective said:Perhaps because there is absolutely no need to if you don't play VC games and even if you did you could always use Triiforce. I have yet to find any compelling reason to go beyond 3.2 either - especially as I have not downgraded to get to 3.2, so there is no future risk of bricking.TiMeBoMb4u2 said:Why don't you want to upgrade??mysticwaterfall said:TiMeBoMb4u2: You assume I want to upgrade 4.1, I have no need since I don't do much with WiiWare/VC. I was talking 3.4--->3.2 which I'm not bothering with.
Sure... I like Windows 98 too!
mysticwaterfall said:I highly doubt that NSMB Wii will require 4.2, because it would have to be on the disk to ensure everybody had it. The latest games coming out still only have 3.4, when 4.0 has been out for a bit now... Plus it would seem easy to bypass the check the game would make.
I'm sticking with 3.4. I actually wish I was still on 3.2, but oh wells.... I'm not going to hassle with downgrading. Installing IOSes hasn't been that big a deal.
EDIT: Looking at WiiBrew, 4.0 came out on March 25th. Wii Sports Resort came out 3 months later, still only had 3.4 on it.
ocdetective said:Well that analogy falls flat as 98 loads way faster than Vista so the only difference is the features and I have already covered that angle. Unless you think 4.0 or 4.1 are perceivably faster?TiMeBoMb4u2 said:ocdetective said:Perhaps because there is absolutely no need to if you don't play VC games and even if you did you could always use Triiforce. I have yet to find any compelling reason to go beyond 3.2 either - especially as I have not downgraded to get to 3.2, so there is no future risk of bricking.TiMeBoMb4u2 said:Why don't you want to upgrade??mysticwaterfall said:TiMeBoMb4u2: You assume I want to upgrade 4.1, I have no need since I don't do much with WiiWare/VC. I was talking 3.4--->3.2 which I'm not bothering with.
Sure... I like Windows 98 too!
ocdetective said:Well that analogy falls flat as 98 loads way faster than Vista so the only difference is the features and I have already covered that angle. Unless you think 4.0 or 4.1 are perceivably faster?TiMeBoMb4u2 said:Sure... I like Windows 98 too!ocdetective said:Perhaps because there is absolutely no need to if you don't play VC games and even if you did you could always use Triiforce. I have yet to find any compelling reason to go beyond 3.2 either - especially as I have not downgraded to get to 3.2, so there is no future risk of bricking.TiMeBoMb4u2 said:Why don't you want to upgrade??mysticwaterfall said:TiMeBoMb4u2: You assume I want to upgrade 4.1, I have no need since I don't do much with WiiWare/VC. I was talking 3.4--->3.2 which I'm not bothering with.
I didn't say you 'had to be a pirate' I just meant why not?TiMeBoMb4u2 said:Having Homebrew does not make you a pirate. If you like a game BUY IT!lightyear said:Ohhh...ok....so if you've got homebrew then why are still using the shop channel anyway? lol @ anyone still paying for games after installing homebrew
DeadlyFoez said:Ok, since all of you want to talk about windows versions in comparison wii SM version, first off that is just a bad analogy.
But lets look at it this way. No matter what version of the wii SM you have, you still have the same exact hardware. It is not upgrading the hardware at all.
So lets take for instance a PC and load a vanilla Win 98 on it, then go and load on a vanilla of 2000, XP, Vista, and 7 on that same exact hardware, Win 98 will boot up the fastest.
No. I wish you knew me, so I could prove you wrong. But...If you want to think that, go right ahead. You win.DeadlyFoez said:Ok, since all of you want to talk about windows versions in comparison wii SM version, first off that is just a bad analogy.
But lets look at it this way. No matter what version of the wii SM you have, you still have the same exact hardware. It is not upgrading the hardware at all.
So lets take for instance a PC and load a vanilla Win 98 on it, then go and load on a vanilla of 2000, XP, Vista, and 7 on that same exact hardware, Win 98 will boot up the fastest.
On the same machine configuration? In your dreams it would! Vista is the epitome of bloatware - thats why the recommended RAM required is 24 times higher than that of 98.TiMeBoMb4u2 said:What technology planet are you living on? You take a fresh 98 machine, boot it and a fresh Vista machine at the same time, and Vista will win most of the time!
I think you should update to 4.2.
marcan_troll said:So you finally made me re-register. BTW: The rules are hilarious, especially the "I will not ask for warez" bit. Hint: asking for or providing hexedited HBC is, technically speaking, warez.
But anyway, I really don't care what people do with their own Wii, I just think it is extremely stupid and dangerous when people provide stupid, broken, dangerous hacks for newbies to use. Want to fuck up every IOS beyond recognition, mod every last bitmap pixel in your Wii, hexedit every title ID to read LULZ, and make the System Menu say "oh shit" when you brick your Wii, just because you think it's funny? Go ahead! Just don't go around publishing that kind of crap, and certainly not without at least 10 pages of red text explaining why it's a really really REALLY stupid idea to install. And for fuck's sake, don't go around offering WAD versions of HBC, hacked or not. It's unsupported and illegal (and against forum rules, not that I'd ever expect the admins to give a shit), but moreso, it's very insulting.
It's not the people who fuck up their consoles that annoy me, it's those that pretend they know what they're doing and then go around publishing crap as if it were the awesomest schtuff in the universe, only to cause grief to users. And this goes for everything from system menu mods to wanky's updaters and patchers. I've gotten several dozen e-mails asking whether you can fix a brick caused by his crappy, untested, unchecked, poorly coded updaters with a SaveMii. The answer is, of course, no you can't.
So, if you screw up your Wii with stupid stuff I'll laugh a little inside, but if you go around publishing crap for the world to use, you'll annoy me and there's a chance I'll publicly flame you. You know, because I hope at least some clueless folk who doesn't know what he's doing who might think twice about touching the stuff after reading my flame. As much as you guys love to flame me, I think the track record of the software I used to help with for the Wii is good enough that at least I must somewhat know what I'm talking about.
Also, hint: there will be no issues caused by the Title ID change for HBC. Just because someone's stupid hexedit didn't work doesn't mean the real release won't. The HAXX title is hardcoded into the return stub left in memory by HBC, not into any apps (we're not monopolistic like that: if you use your own stub, you can make your own loader with a working return to it from apps). In fact, the "return to" stuff existed since the Twilight Hack, and it hasn't changed significantly since then. It predates even knowing how to launch channels or title IDs.
Pre-emptive reply to the whole "but you left the Wii scene" business: I haven't touched a line of Wii code in months. I rarely even test stuff that the rest of the team release now. I've updated to 4.2 (and lost homebrew) to make an exception, so I can test the final release of the new installer (I don't really care about homebrew myself anyway: except for a few Brawl matches, my Wii is gathering dust). I don't follow forums or anything else, and I only hang around on #wiidev and company to help with administration (no, no one has asked me to leave, kthx). I made an exception for this update because I'll admit it got me slightly excited, and because I was again reminded of just how completely stupid some people are when it comes to these things. These days I spend my time on other, less stressful, projects. I'm even about to contribute something that might be used by many more people than all the Wii homebrew business, and yet no one will find out, there will be no flame wars, no idiots messing stuff up. It's so much better that way. I already got a taste of the whole "popular hacky software for consoles which warezors inevitably abuse to warez" business (which is slowly fading away and not quite gone yet), and I don't have any intention of trying it again (don't expect any DSi stuff from me).