Valve working on “secret” TF2 project

[Joe88]

how to spot a f2p user:
wears a ghastly gibus

 

[Hells Malice]

Regardless, I have never had a ton of interest in the game, but ever since hats hats hats I've lost even more interest. Achievements are one thing. You can't make or trade achievements. But half the purpose of the game has turned to trading hats. Ffs.

I'm sorry but what?
How has The game become centered around hats? Or trading in general?
If I do any trading at all I do it when not in game. I mean there Is an option to disable random trade requests in game. and it's not like people will go "NO HATS? KICK HIM FROM THIS SERVER"

Yeah, I've gotten kicked from a few servers because either I was wearing my lucky Spiral Saliet or I wasn't wear any hats. You are also aware there's like a thousand dollar market for hat trading also right?

There's a mult-miillion dollar market for gold in most any MMO, doesn't mean MMOs are all about selling gold. Derpderp.

TF2 has a bunch of hats, so what? It's also got a fucking TON to do, and these days is free. There's tons of weapons for every character to get and use. Who cares if there's also a bunch of visual items as well?
Are people seriously this retarded that the hats are the sole reason for not playing?

Btw, i'll tell you a secret about servers that kick people for hat reasons:
They fucking suck, blacklist it and move on. There's hundreds of other servers out there, and many are actually good.

 

[Gh0sti]

new character maybe or just hats

 

[The Milkman]

Regardless, I have never had a ton of interest in the game, but ever since hats hats hats I've lost even more interest. Achievements are one thing. You can't make or trade achievements. But half the purpose of the game has turned to trading hats. Ffs.

I'm sorry but what?
How has The game become centered around hats? Or trading in general?
If I do any trading at all I do it when not in game. I mean there Is an option to disable random trade requests in game. and it's not like people will go "NO HATS? KICK HIM FROM THIS SERVER"

Yeah, I've gotten kicked from a few servers because either I was wearing my lucky Spiral Saliet or I wasn't wear any hats. You are also aware there's like a thousand dollar market for hat trading also right?

There's a mult-miillion dollar market for gold in most any MMO, doesn't mean MMOs are all about selling gold. Derpderp.

TF2 has a bunch of hats, so what? It's also got a fucking TON to do, and these days is free. There's tons of weapons for every character to get and use. Who cares if there's also a bunch of visual items as well?
Are people seriously this retarded that the hats are the sole reason for not playing?

Btw, i'll tell you a secret about servers that kick people for hat reasons:
They fucking suck, blacklist it and move on. There's hundreds of other servers out there, and many are actually good.

I'm not saying that's all the game is about I'm just saying that people judge a lot based on hats, I was a & F2P and then I got the game and I still liked my "noob" hats. Plus, usually in MMOs there's only a multi Million market because its all based on in game currency being bought by other means of payment, in TF2 most hats that are worth anything are event items (MAC earbuds) but I digress. My point is simply that while hats aren't the whole gane there's a large community who bases their status and position in the community. On hats.

 

[frogboy]

They're telling us it's not a hat... that means it must be new hatS!

 

[bowser]

What's a hat

 

[Joe88]

 

[Wombo Combo]

I have a feeling the Meet the Pyro video is just going to troll us on if it is a male/female.

Spoiler

(even though it is scouts mom)

 

[ZaeZae64]

Regardless, I have never had a ton of interest in the game, but ever since hats hats hats I've lost even more interest. Achievements are one thing. You can't make or trade achievements. But half the purpose of the game has turned to trading hats. Ffs.

I'm sorry but what?
How has The game become centered around hats? Or trading in general?
If I do any trading at all I do it when not in game. I mean there Is an option to disable random trade requests in game. and it's not like people will go "NO HATS? KICK HIM FROM THIS SERVER"

Yeah, I've gotten kicked from a few servers because either I was wearing my lucky Spiral Saliet or I wasn't wear any hats. You are also aware there's like a thousand dollar market for hat trading also right?

I don't know what server you're talking about, but are you Free to Play? Because there are some servers (albeit they're normally trade servers) that kick F2Pers since they can't trade anyway.
Also, don't see how the value of hats can be a counter argument for what I said. Sure people like them/Really love them, but 90% of the time people really don't give a shit what hat you're wearing.

 

[Satangel]

Looking forward to it! Great to see more improvement (?) for such a great game.

 

[The Milkman]

Regardless, I have never had a ton of interest in the game, but ever since hats hats hats I've lost even more interest. Achievements are one thing. You can't make or trade achievements. But half the purpose of the game has turned to trading hats. Ffs.

I'm sorry but what?
How has The game become centered around hats? Or trading in general?
If I do any trading at all I do it when not in game. I mean there Is an option to disable random trade requests in game. and it's not like people will go "NO HATS? KICK HIM FROM THIS SERVER"

Yeah, I've gotten kicked from a few servers because either I was wearing my lucky Spiral Saliet or I wasn't wear any hats. You are also aware there's like a thousand dollar market for hat trading also right?

I don't know what server you're talking about, but are you Free to Play? Because there are some servers (albeit they're normally trade servers) that kick F2Pers since they can't trade anyway.
Also, don't see how the value of hats can be a counter argument for what I said. Sure people like them/Really love them, but 90% of the time people really don't give a shit what hat you're wearing.

Not in my experiences, when I was F2P I would get kicked left and right on non-clan servers (in fact usually the only non-clans I could get into were run by F2Ps and can assure you I have never even attempted to join a Trade server in my playtime.) and I cant count how many times I was skipped over by medics or unassisted by fellow engineers because either I had my gibus or salliet. Trust me. The second I stopped wearing them I got more help when needed. I'm not saying the WHOLE community is like that. But in my experience quite a few do judge by hats.

 

[ZaeZae64]

Regardless, I have never had a ton of interest in the game, but ever since hats hats hats I've lost even more interest. Achievements are one thing. You can't make or trade achievements. But half the purpose of the game has turned to trading hats. Ffs.

I'm sorry but what?
How has The game become centered around hats? Or trading in general?
If I do any trading at all I do it when not in game. I mean there Is an option to disable random trade requests in game. and it's not like people will go "NO HATS? KICK HIM FROM THIS SERVER"

Yeah, I've gotten kicked from a few servers because either I was wearing my lucky Spiral Saliet or I wasn't wear any hats. You are also aware there's like a thousand dollar market for hat trading also right?

I don't know what server you're talking about, but are you Free to Play? Because there are some servers (albeit they're normally trade servers) that kick F2Pers since they can't trade anyway.
Also, don't see how the value of hats can be a counter argument for what I said. Sure people like them/Really love them, but 90% of the time people really don't give a shit what hat you're wearing.

Not in my experiences, when I was F2P I would get kicked left and right on non-clan servers (in fact usually the only non-clans I could get into were run by F2Ps and can assure you I have never even attempted to join a Trade server in my playtime.) and I cant count how many times I was skipped over by medics or unassisted by fellow engineers because either I had my gibus or salliet. Trust me. The second I stopped wearing them I got more help when needed. I'm not saying the WHOLE community is like that. But in my experience quite a few do judge by hats.

I see.
If you ask me those are terrible servers and should be blacklisted immediately.
Most of my friends are F2P and on the servers we go to they generally weren't treated like this.

 

[Joe88]

I see f2p people get kicked all the time on servers, usually asking for free stuff (because they cant trade, only receive)

 

[DarkCoffe64]

This is the secret project valve is working for.
THIS STUFF IS TOTALLY TOP SECRET! I had to hack onto their computers to get it!

"jkg"

 

[Maplemage]

I play medic and I judge people by their hats and strange kills, then I heal them.

 

[Joe88]

I play medic and I judge people by their hats and strange kills, then I heal them.

sounds about right

medics only heal heavy's with cool hats, true story

 

[ZaeZae64]

I play medic and I judge people by their hats and strange kills, then I heal them.

If you're serious then I hope to never play with you.

 

[xeronut]

Unless this secret project starts with "Half-Life 2" and ends with "Episode 3," I'm going to be one sad kid.

 

[Tom Bombadildo]

I play medic and I judge people by their hats and strange kills, then I heal them.

If you're serious then I hope to never play with you.

Question (and I mean no harm by it), why the hell are you so defensive about TF2? You'd actually be surprised at how many people actually only play for the hats, whether its F2P or those who payed.

 

[ZaeZae64]

I play medic and I judge people by their hats and strange kills, then I heal them.

If you're serious then I hope to never play with you.

Question (and I mean no harm by it), why the hell are you so defensive about TF2? You'd actually be surprised at how many people actually only play for the hats, whether its F2P or those who payed.

I never really saw myself as over defensive over TF2, but I guess it's just because I'm one of the few who honestly don't care about hats all that much. Sure, they're nice to have (I've got quite the collection), but the things about it I love are the art style, humor and perhaps balance (although granted they need to nerf/buff some things like the Enforcer and tomislav which are thankfully already being nerfed in the beta).
So it just bugs me when I see somebody go "Hats ruined TF2" when it really hasn't, or somebody say they'll only assist somebody if they have a nice hat.
It's called Team Fortress for a reason.