BigNastyCurve said:
Three questions :
1. B7B or B8B ?
2. What do you mean by "slight pause" ? 1 sec. ? For Mario Kart test ?
3. Would would please try GUI Loader to see if it will lock up for Mario Kart test ?
Many Thanks indeed !
Meannekes said:
...when it's official, it should be found on their website, correct?
All I can find there is the "Spindown or Stop Utility".
And this program is doing the opposite... from the readme.txt:
(
Main features:
- It gives a list of all WD external drives connected to the USB and 1394 ports.
- Allows the user to select a drive to:
- Send into the standby mode where the drive spins down and consumes less power,
- and/or safely remove it from the system.
)
...so what program are you talking about?
TeenTin said:
I can't answer for BigNastyCurve, but I use a WD Passport 120gb, the original model before they started calling them My Passport Essential. It's an "A4B". Performing the "Mario Kart Test" (which I understand as pausing the race right before you cross the finish line, waiting 20-30 minutes, finishing the race and seeing what happens) results in a slight pause of 1 second or less as my kart crosses the finish line before the camera cuts away and the leaderboard shows up and everything continues as normal.
This is using the USB ISO Loader GUI, with cIOS36 rev10.
I've ordered a 320gb Passport Essential as well, and when it arrives I can run the same test, but it's not like I have an unusual setup or anything.
TeenTin said:
Sorry it took a bit to answer your questions:
1. B8B
2. Like a pause indicative of the hard drive spinning back up...I'd say about 1 to 2 seconds, tops, on the Mario Kart test. As the other poster above me described, I then cross the finish line and everything is normal and I move on to the next race. I'm actually surprised that more people aren't talking about the fact that some of the USB loaders out there completely mitigate the problems with external hard drive spindown.
Here's the list, cached by google since the wiki is currently down:
http://74.125.95.132/search?q=cache:bz0qdS...lient=firefox-a
You're looking for a loader with the "lopst mod".
3. Can you give me a link to that one? As I said, I only use Ultimate USB Loader. There are prettier ones, but none that seem as feature-rich.
BigNastyCurve said:
The LoPsT mod doesn't mean what you think it means. It was to help people to get their hard drives recognized by the USB Loader better by increasing the timeout. It has nothing to do with the spindown issue.
ekolimits said:
I'm unsure about an internal HDD although you could try the software out and give it a shot, there's really no harm in trying IMO.
If the software finds your drive then shit yeah try to adjust the power settings.
I have a Maxtor 4 500GB external that I use for the Wii now since I bought a WD TB hehe.
Anyway here's the site that should help most of you, I use the Maxtor OneTouch 4 Plus software.
http://www.seagate.com/www/en-us/support/h...xternalSoftware
There's even freakin tutorials with videos! So I'm going to be really ashamed if some of yoos can't figure it out after watching those vid clips.
Here's one for example on how to adjust the power settings (which is the "spindown") http://support.seagate.com/rightnow/flash/...jpwrsttngs.html
So there, that should be simple enough for those who couldn't find it or whatever.
and..... your welcome, peace! I'm out
hm... looks like no more satisfying findings...
I tried to find out how it could be possible to send
the "SET FEATURE" (EFh) with SubCommand "Disable APM" (85h) command
directly to the attached USB-HDD. Yes, these are IDE/ATA specifications
(I have the PDF somewhere here...) and therefore usable for this kind of HDDs only.
But somehow it should work, because HDDScan for example is able
to send this to the USB-HDD.
Looking thru usbstorage.c, it looks like they didn't have
commands to send 'raw' commands; just INIT/GET_CAPACITY/READ & WRITE SECTORS.
It's more than enough for sending/getting data, but not enough for ATA
specified commands. PLEASE tell somebody I'm wrong...!?
So still no luck with disabling APM thru Wii.
So back to permanently disable APM. No Windows-Tool able to do this
(permanently) for the B8B.
Maybe under DOS?
There are some kind of tools to get an USB-HDD usable under DOS. Nice feature, btw.
It is working via ASPI-Driver. I thought it is maybe possible this way. One try was with
MHDD (via DOS Boot). It was indeed detecting the USB-HDD, but because of ASPI it was handled as
SCSI drive (with limited functions) where APM functions are (inside MHDD) not available...grr...
btw: tools I'm talking about are available here: http://hddguru.com/
I didn't try all of them yet; have also other things to do (work, for example) and sometimes
you need some time and quiet to use that stuff correctly...
So what's left?
For now, hoping that the next cIOS will have the 'I-read-randomly-some-data-from-
the-HDD-to-prevent-Sleep'-function in and that it will not interrupt usual HDD 'traffic'.
This could maybe a (only) reason to update, because I'm still fine with Rev9 and have less
trouble than others with Rev10...
Some more interesting ideas?
And now for something completely different...
I tried to find out how it could be possible to send
the "SET FEATURE" (EFh) with SubCommand "Disable APM" (85h) command
directly to the attached USB-HDD. Yes, these are IDE/ATA specifications
(I have the PDF somewhere here...) and therefore usable for this kind of HDDs only.
But somehow it should work, because HDDScan for example is able
to send this to the USB-HDD.
Looking thru usbstorage.c, it looks like they didn't have
commands to send 'raw' commands; just INIT/GET_CAPACITY/READ & WRITE SECTORS.
It's more than enough for sending/getting data, but not enough for ATA
specified commands. PLEASE tell somebody I'm wrong...!?
So still no luck with disabling APM thru Wii.
So back to permanently disable APM. No Windows-Tool able to do this
(permanently) for the B8B.
Maybe under DOS?
There are some kind of tools to get an USB-HDD usable under DOS. Nice feature, btw.
It is working via ASPI-Driver. I thought it is maybe possible this way. One try was with
MHDD (via DOS Boot). It was indeed detecting the USB-HDD, but because of ASPI it was handled as
SCSI drive (with limited functions) where APM functions are (inside MHDD) not available...grr...
btw: tools I'm talking about are available here: http://hddguru.com/
I didn't try all of them yet; have also other things to do (work, for example) and sometimes
you need some time and quiet to use that stuff correctly...
So what's left?
For now, hoping that the next cIOS will have the 'I-read-randomly-some-data-from-
the-HDD-to-prevent-Sleep'-function in and that it will not interrupt usual HDD 'traffic'.
This could maybe a (only) reason to update, because I'm still fine with Rev9 and have less
trouble than others with Rev10...
Some more interesting ideas?
And now for something completely different...
ekolimits said:
The one I used is called 'MaxtorManager' it was on the list of tools for the closest match I could see for my Maxtor, basics or something.
EDIT: Found it:
http://www.seagate.com/ww/v/index.jsp?loca...000f5ee0a0aRCRD
these issues are still the same, maxtor and seagate drives can use the seagate manager software (seagate.com not that hard to find...) and others need to use hdparm (windows port is available)
for those harddrives where the hdparm commands don't work or aren't saved after power down there is _no_ fix at the mo.
for those harddrives where the hdparm commands don't work or aren't saved after power down there is _no_ fix at the mo.
Is this the issue that could be causing things such as losing music while playing Super Paper Mario or causing short freezes in Rock Band 2, WHILE PLAYING (i.e. not while leaving it for 20 minutes and coming back)? Or is that something else?
Odd. Sorry if I misled anyone. I guess I read someone else's post about it and took what they said as gospel. Oddly enough, my B8B My Passport worked fine during the Mario Kart test, and I assumed that was owing to the special timeout mod that I referred to. Either way, I hear that this issue will be resolve in the next cIOS revision.
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