1. ccfman2004

    ccfman2004 GBAtemp Addict
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    As Sony is competing against its rival, Microsoft, they couldn't afford to wait. Also not all bugs are found during in-house testing. The first PS5 update that user got was published on the 6th.

    As for scalpers, the retailers should never have put the console's actual store listing web address public as this allowed the scalpers to set their bots up in advance ready to punch the millisecond pre-orders went live. They should have had a generic landing page and not publish the final addresses until right before pre-orders would go live. Also they never should have jumped the gun and completely ignore Sony's announcement. Also Sony should have worked with retailers to prevent a dwelling from receiving more than one console by having all orders go through them for verification before shipping anything. There are many eBay ads with pictures showing the sellers having a half dozen or so units. Some a lot more. If people stopped being stupid and desperate, scalpers would stop as they only continue as long as it's profitable. It's like Ransomeware, criminals keep doing it because companies kept paying instead of practicing good backup routines.
     
  2. the_randomizer

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    So in essence, people like me will never be able to get a PS5 at least, until May or June 2021 at this rate.
     
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    I kinda want a ps5, because switch onward I plan to go legit. however, I've heard of tons of software and hardware problems with them.

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    I kinda wish the switch had achievements too. that's one thing that interests me in the ps5. I'm a platforming master. :D I managed to get 842 thus far power moons in odyssey with no guide. I don't want to use a guide, but I'd like to move on from the game.
     
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    3500 units isn't nothing, but it shouldn't be enough to be giving major shortages of the system on a large scale, unless there were going to be supply issues to begin with, which as I understand it was indeed determined would be an issue ahead of time due to part shortages thanks to covid.
     
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    It's those dumbass scalpers' fault
     
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    I'm not saying that scalpers aren't contributing to the issue, but they don't actually seem to be the main reason for shortages to begin with.
     
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    Moving christmas would be tricky.

    There are always shortages during console launches, because it's not cost effective for them to manufacture such high numbers and then not sell any for a year.
     
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    To address some arguments here like, "the dumb people need to stop buying scalped consoles if they want it to stop."

    No. The ones buying at scalper prices are the ones only slightly annoyed about paying that price (they are well off). The "dumb" ones like me who cannot afford to pay scalper prices, thus want it to stop, are the ones who already can barely afford and probably making other sacrifices in order to afford just the retail price (also why I game on the PC mostly).

    As for stopping it, there is really 2 old sayings that both fit, not to mention its part of capitalism/free market:
    1)Science may figure it out someday, but they haven't done so yet (or ya, probably they don't really want to).
    2)Money makes the world go 'round, my friends.
     
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    The people who buy from the scalpers are a big part of the problem. If the ones were actually annoyed they wouldn't buy it from them. They are what we call the Enablers. If the enablers stopped giving in to the scalpers demands, the scalpers would stop. They only reason they continue is because there is no law against it for this type of product (that doesn't stop the drug cartels) and continue to make a huge profit. Once something is no longer profitable, they will stop. It's like in the US, there are plenty of cures for various ailments but because Big Pharma can't turn a profit, they won't bother even if it means people will die. Since doctor's can't legally prescribe non-FDA approved medicine Big Pharma wins. Big Pharma makes more money keeping people on their non-curing drugs than it would make actually finding a cure.

    The enablers are the dumb ones as they cannot see/don't realize their actions of paying the scalper's demands are why the scalpers continue and cause problems for everyone else.

    Maybe dumb isn't the word, but in any event they can't seem to see that their actions are causing problems for everyone else.
     
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    Oh no, not that.
     
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    I just got what he said. I think Jesus and/or his Dad would be very angry if we did that.
     
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    Just wait it out. There isn't really any games that are out on it right now. PS4 still have 2 years of life in it
     
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    The consoles should've been delayed and I stand by that.
     
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    Even though I was able to get a Standard PS5, I still haven't decided if I want to open it up yet or wait to see if the hackers come through. The only PS5 game I'm interested in is Ratchet and Clank.

    I assume you mean from both makers? As everyone, MS, Sony, NVIDIA, and AMD are all having production issues due to COVID.
     
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    @ccfman2004
    I told the guy at gamestop yesterday I will wait maybe 2 or 3 years before getting an PS5 and a Series-X. Unlike Nintendo Sony and Microsoft exclusives drop dramatically in price so the GT7, New Horizon Game, GOW I can snag them for $10-$20 bucks in the upcoming years. Black Friday and Cyber Monday are the best time to buy video games but back to the PS5 the new users are basically the beta testers and a better version of the PS5 will come out in the next upcoming years. If I were you I would just atleast open up to see if yours is fully functional the worst case senario if you keep it too long and if there is a defect you cant return it back after the 1 year warranty.

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    I also agree. The funny thing is the high demand for the PS5/Series-X no notable games are coming out until 2021.
     
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    But the delay would have helped with higher production numbers.
     
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    Sure, but what I'm saying is that on top of typical shortages, they were telling us ahead of time that supply would be even lower than normal for a system launch because covid had been making procuring parts for production all the more difficult due to shortages stemming from the disease disrupting work flows for so long.
     
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    Before COVID hit they both talked about the next-gen console coming out holiday 2020. Had they delayed it, who knows how people would have reacted. The developers of Cyberpunk 2077 were getting death threats over the delays.
     
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    Only because they're conceited, stuck up jackasses who don't have a real life outside of video games.
     
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